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Vote Wagonlitz

On day one he struck me as trying to surreptitiously conduct something, like he was trying to use gorganslayer or madchemist to his ends. It didn't surprise me at all a wolf was in the mix.
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Book of Hax

Day 1

Rovsea: 6
JohnKjeken [120]
Gen. Skobelev [141]
GreatUberGeek [123 DutchGuy -> 178]
Xarkan [152 DutchGuy -> 185]
Capt. Kiwi [126 Cymsdale -> 225]
Madchemist [117 randakar -> 197 Rovsea -> 218 DutchGuy -> 232]

DutchGuy: 5
Hax [151 Gen. Skobelev -> 154 randakar -> 156 GreatUberGeek -> 221]
Cymsdale [110 Hax -> 184 GreatUberGeek -> 224]
Aedan777 [104 Cymsdale -> 246]
Rovsea [107 randakar -> 234 GreatUberGeek -> 249]
GorganSlayer [219 GreatUberGeek -> 252]

GreatUberGeek: 3
Wagonlitz [130 Gorganslayer -> 134]
randakar [132 DutchGuy -> 135]
Leondark [228]

Cymsdale: 2
Falc [158]
DutchGuy [105 Rovsea -> 209 GreatUberGeek -> 229]

(only day 1 as it has most information)


Hax wolfdar analysis(tm)
More baddie than goodie:
madchemist - even if he put the last nail in Rovsea's coffin so was that move at least for me quite strange
GreatÜberGeek - was one of the contesters for day 1 but got quite quickly removed from 'danger', full inbox on day 1

Neutral:
Capt Kiwi - hard to read, don't know to be honest
Falc - flying under the radar
aedan777 - flying under the radar
JohnKjeken - flying under the radar, gives me goodie vibes
Wagonlitz - his pushing for GuG was a bit strange after knowing the result of yesterday's lynch
DutchGuy - with the result from yesterdays lynch I would say goodie but his late vote switch was and still is for me a strange move
Leondark - flying under the radar.
Gen Skobelev - plays with his normal style but I don't like his pushing of lynching me.

More goodie than baddie:
randakar - the typical randy-style, gives me goodie vibes
 

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Unofficial votecount

Wagonlitz: 5
Madchemist [463]
GreatÜberGeek [477]
Aedan777 [484]
Capt. Kiwi [499]
DutchGuy [443 Gen. Skobelev -> 456 madchemist -> 500]

Hax: 3
Randakar [441]
Gen. Skobelev [446]
JohnKjeken [469]

madchemist: 2
Wagonlitz [424 Gen. Skobelev -> 455]
Falc [462]

GreatÜberGeek: 1
Hax [431]

Not voted: 1
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Vote Wagonlitz

On day one he struck me as trying to surreptitiously conduct something, like he was trying to use gorganslayer or madchemist to hisends. It didn't surprise me at all a wolf was in the mix.
Where? You are just letting out hot air at the moment. If you look then I wanted GUG dead and actually somewhat defended Rovsea because I thought he had changed playstyle---which he might still have done. That doesn't equal that I masterminded madchemist and GS.

Book of Hax

Day 1


Wagonlitz - his pushing for GuG was a bit strange after knowing the result of yesterday's lynch

This is what you are all falling for. There was no way for me to know day 1 that Rovsea was a wolf and the case wasn't that clear cut. It mainly rested on Skobie thinking that Rovsea was behaving differently; something I wasn't sure of. And I wasn't the only one. The case on GUG was decent for day 1; especially considering that GUG didn't want to tell why his PM box was full.

Well it seems I will die, so make sure to scrutinize the people behind my lynch. Especially madchemist, but also Kiwi who gave a terrible reason for his vote. And madchemist and to some degree aedan got DG to vote me through IRC.
Also I wouldn't discount Skobie being a wolf still. He has recently complained about being hunted often/lynched as a wolf and that he would want a win; by throwing a mate under the bus on day 1 with no seer he could get that win...
 

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[23:11:41] *** VampireDG is now known as DutchGuy
[23:25:36] *** Dadarian (tiramisu@B9DB5BA1.5E4C8A5D.F9D8A2FB.IP) has joined #WW
[23:27:39] *** Aedan has quit (Connection reset by peer)
[23:29:01] *** Aedan (tiramisu@coldfront-6E10D6B1.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #WW
[23:46:24] *** Rovsea (tiramisu@coldfront-E9B73083.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #WW
[23:55:24] <Rovsea> Interesting stuff in the Lite
[23:55:40] <Gridley> Indeed.
[23:56:04] <DutchGuy> Indeed
[23:56:08] <Rovsea> Then again, with three seer-less games recently
[23:56:23] <Rovsea> I've fond quite a few games interesting, of late
[23:56:41] <Gridley> So, DG, are you willing to try to disprove my statement of your idiocy?
[23:57:01] <DutchGuy> Maybe
[23:57:39] <Gridley> I would stake a fair amount on Wagon being a wolf. Hax less so, but I still find him likely.
[23:57:43] <Gridley> Pick one.
[23:58:42] <DutchGuy> HAX
[23:58:48] <DutchGuy> Hacking hax
[23:59:00] <Gridley> Of course you pick the one I'm less confident in.
[23:59:23] <Gridley> Then again, I was pretty sure about GS, and that was wrong, so maybe.
[23:59:56] <DutchGuy> Continue asking...
[00:00:06] <Gridley> Asking what?
[00:00:11] <DutchGuy> questions
[00:00:27] <DutchGuy> you said you wanted to disprove me being a idiot
[00:00:55] <Gridley> No. I want you to disprove my statement of you being an idiot.
[00:01:14] <Gridley> But anyway, why do you prefer Hax?
[00:01:31] <Gridley> Why did you think Skobie was at all likely?
[00:01:41] <DutchGuy> Hax is silent
[00:01:44] <DutchGuy> too silent
[00:01:57] <DutchGuy> And Skoby voted little old me if I am right
[00:02:02] <Gridley> OK, that's something, at least.
[00:02:19] <Gridley> Lots of people voted you, DG. Are all of them wolves?
[00:02:36] <DutchGuy> I dont think so
[00:02:41] <DutchGuy> but a large part, yes
[00:02:52] <DutchGuy> we got 3 wolves left.
[00:02:58] <DutchGuy> if I am right.
[00:03:08] <Gridley> Yes, there should be 3 left.
[00:03:26] <Gridley> But I rather doubt that an entire pack would sell themselves out to kill you.
[00:03:41] <DutchGuy> I dont think so as well
[00:03:46] <DutchGuy> but a stray wolf or 2
[00:03:51] <DutchGuy> aye
[00:03:56] <Gridley> Sure. Conceivably.
[00:04:13] <DutchGuy> voting someone who cant really defend himself well
[00:04:17] <DutchGuy> and if he tries
[00:04:25] <DutchGuy> makes pretty idiotic/nooby statements
[00:05:06] <Gridley> Look on the bright side. That sort of thing cleared you last game, and has basically done the same this game.
[00:05:28] <DutchGuy> aye
[00:05:36] <DutchGuy> hmm
[00:05:42] <DutchGuy> lemme look at the thread
[00:05:43] <Wagonlitz> @MC Believe it or not, but if you lynch me you will be doing the same as you did with GS.
[00:06:22] <DutchGuy> I still believe you are a wolf MC
[00:06:27] <DutchGuy> your a slippery snake.
[00:06:29] <Wagonlitz> I still think you are the best choise, but as mentioned earlier the way Hax has played has struck me like his play in Last Council
[00:06:34] <Gridley> It's possible, Wagon. But you've been pushing some pretty terrible cases. You're better than that.
[00:07:00] <Gridley> DG, I'm not that good as a wolf. Most of my wolf strategy relies on me being under the radar and staying unvoted.
[00:07:02] <DutchGuy> Al-Aziz as pjnlsn bait
[00:07:04] <DutchGuy> lol
[00:07:12] <Wagonlitz> You and I both know that you sometimes make wrong cases as a villager.
[00:07:24] <Wagonlitz> On day 1 the GUG case wasn't that bad.
[00:07:25] <DutchGuy> Wolves change strategies
[00:07:28] <Gridley> I don't think I could defend myself like this as a wolf without it ringing hollow somewhere along the line.
[00:08:09] <Wagonlitz> Yes Rovsea turned out a wolf, but I didn't think he acted particularly wolfish just more active.
[00:08:20] <Rovsea> Wut
[00:08:22] <Rovsea> who called?
[00:08:24] <Wagonlitz> And as I have already stated I want to commend activity.
[00:08:49] <Gridley> It's a question of tone. Skobie noticed something off about it.
[00:09:12] <Gridley> I eventually agreed, though it took a while.
[00:09:14] <Wagonlitz> I know that is what Skobie noticed; what I am saying is that I didn't notice it.
[00:09:33] <Gridley> And you missed the bit in IRC with aedan. That kinda clinched it.
[00:10:16] <Wagonlitz> Also yesterday I didn't go for GS:
[00:10:17] <DutchGuy> Hmm
[00:10:31] <DutchGuy> I am kinda divided between Wagon and Hax
[00:10:33] <Wagonlitz> Yes I missed the IRC which might have cleared this; nothing we can do about that now.
[00:10:57] <Aedan> I didn't really see Rovsea's actions at the time as wolf-like, but it was off, and I pointed it out, leading to MC to vote on Rovsea again
[00:11:17] <DutchGuy> hmm
[00:11:23] <DutchGuy> Hax or Wagon....
[00:11:26] <DutchGuy> hmmm
[00:11:27] <DutchGuy> hmmm
[00:11:30] <Wagonlitz> Yes I voted Skobie, but as I mentioned yesterday that was because he a) said he was tired and you mainly make mistakes when you are tired and b) he said a couple of things that looked like slips.
[00:11:40] * DutchGuy activates wolfdar
[00:11:57] <Wagonlitz> @aedan Might very well be, but there is no proof.
[00:12:47] * DutchGuy wolfdar scan complete
[00:12:54] <Aedan> If MC and I were packmates, we wouldn't bring attention to a conversation we can't prove happened to clear each other
[00:12:56] * DutchGuy detects wolf
[00:13:09] <Rovsea> So
[00:13:11] <Gridley> Aedan, I might, actually.
[00:13:14] <Wagonlitz> And yes I voted Skobie this morning because I still thought my case from yesterday was good. I had forgot that he started the case on Rovsea.
[00:13:25] <Rovsea> I guess I should have just been less active this game, or what?
[00:13:27] * DutchGuy the wolfdar indicates....
[00:13:28] <Wagonlitz> When I got home and looked at the thread I noticed it and unvoted Skobie.
[00:13:32] <DutchGuy> Wagonlitz
[00:15:14] <Wagonlitz> @MC Indeed a couple wolves might very well make such a claim. Just think of Cymsdale's claim about how Xarkan couldn't be a baddie in Lemeard's game, because they had been together the entire day and in the end Xarkan was a baddie.
[00:15:49] *** Dadarian has quit (Ping timeout)
[00:16:05] <Gridley> It is one of those things where it risks the whole thing falling apart if either one dies, though.
[00:16:21] <DutchGuy> I keep my vote on Wagon for now
[00:16:24] <DutchGuy> must sleep
[00:16:25] <DutchGuy> bb
[00:16:43] *** DutchGuy is now known as DGafk
[00:18:52] <Wagonlitz> Well it seems you have got mate Kiwi to save you; or Hax has got him to save him. DG most of all appears to have been fooled into voting me from this chat which I of course will publish before deadline for all to see when I am dead.



The last IRC post occured 10 minutes before this post.
 

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Wagonlitz: 5
Madchemist [463]
GreatÜbergeek [477]
Capt. Kiwi [499]
DutchGuy [443 Skobie -> 456 madchemist -> 500]
Hax [431 GUG -> 506]

Hax: 5
Randakar [441]
Gen. Skobelev [446]
JohnKjeken [469]
Wagonlitz [424 Gen. Skobelev -> 455 madchemist -> 507]
Aedan777 [484 Wagonlitz -> 508]

madchemist: 1
Falc [462]

Not voted: 1
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Good. It's highly unlikely both are villagers, and narrowing down candidates will help find the wolves if by some miniscule chance neither is a wolf.
 

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Unvote madchemist
Vote Hax

Wagon.. wagon....

Wagonlitz: 5
Madchemist [463]
GreatÜbergeek [477]
Capt. Kiwi [499]
DutchGuy [443 Skobie -> 456 madchemist -> 500]
Hax [431 GUG -> 506]

Hax: 5
Randakar [441]
Gen. Skobelev [446]
JohnKjeken [469]
Wagonlitz [424 Gen. Skobelev -> 455 madchemist -> 507]
Aedan777 [484 Wagonlitz -> 508]

madchemist: 1
Falc [462]

Not voted: 1
alxeu []


I demand a GM votecount. :p
 

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I still think it's better to wait for the penultimate day, but I can see the merit. Alea jacta est and all that I guess.
 

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Wagon the village is lynched
Hax the wolf is lynched
Madchemist the village is hunted
 

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Unfortunate that Madchemist got hunted and we were wrong about Wagonlitz, but at least we got a wolf. Lots of information here, and I'll try to go through everything, since I figure I'm going to be hunted next. Kiwi is the major standout for suspects I think, but there's a lot to consider. And we still have next to nothing on Leondark/alxeu who has missed two votes in a row.
 

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Unfortunate that Madchemist got hunted and we were wrong about Wagonlitz, but at least we got a wolf. Lots of information here, and I'll try to go through everything, since I figure I'm going to be hunted next. Kiwi is the major standout for suspects I think, but there's a lot to consider. And we still have next to nothing on Leondark/alxeu who has missed two votes in a row.

Kiwi and GuG strike me immediately as targets for investigation, but it's too late for me to do much of anything right now. I'll take a better look in the morning.
 

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Agh! I forgot the deadline was 6:30! :( Was doing my homework.
Anyways, Wagonlitz was seriously pushing the full inbox thing on me. He wasn't just a wolf trying to pin something on me. This admittedly does not look good. We nabbed a wolf here as well, but the loss of MC shall be sorely felt.
Kiwi, why did you say that you were "right about Aedan"?
I think our big suspects for today should be Capt. Kiwi, randy, and maybe Gen. Skobelev.
As such, for now I will Vote Capt. Kiwi.
 

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Kiwi and GuG strike me immediately as targets for investigation, but it's too late for me to do much of anything right now. I'll take a better look in the morning.

Only to a terribly superficial reading of the thread.