Anybody disagreeing?
Official count, day 1, deadline
Cody: 5
Jacksonian Missionary [118]
ramius3443 [115 spam -> 120]
Claude LC [135]
BlackCrown [110 Alynkio -> 147]
Adamgerd [158]
Jackson: 4
aedan777 [109]
alynkio [107 Claude -> 136]
SPAMbuca [104 Adam -> 132 Claude -> 141 Adam -> 155]
jeray2000 [114 spam -> 157]
Claude: 3
Spockyt [124]
Comm Cody [117 ram -> 139]
Audren [111 BC -> 144]
Alynkio: 2
deathbywombat [126 Jackson -> 150]
Arkasas [113 aedan -> 169]
Spam: 1
Rovsea [106]
Spock: 1
F72Voyager [108]
Not voted: 0
Voyager tried voting Wagon in 105, but Wagon's GM
Official count, day 2, deadline
Audren: 5
SPAMbuca [190 BC -> 230]
alynkio [232]
ramius3443 [233]
BlackCrown [235 BC -> 240]
deathbywombat [225 Audren -> 245 Alynkio -> 251]
Alynkio: 3
Rovsea [199]
F72Voyager [202 Jackson -> 228]
Claude LC [244 Audren -> 250]
Voyager: 1
jeray2000 [200]
Spam: 1
Jacksonian Missionary [203]
jeray: 1
Spockyt [207]
Rovs: 1
aedan777 [219 Alynkio -> 252]
Not voted: 2
@Adamgerd []
@Audren []
Wombat asked for some possible wolves and I think it's possible to start ranking people.
Remaining players:
Spockyt:
Voted Claude for little reason on day 1 with Cody. Throwaway vote on day 2. His reason to vote Jeray seems wrong as well. Apart from that, he doesn't post much and I don't rate his posts very helpful. I'd rate Spockyt relatively likely to be wolf.
ramius3443:
Voted Cody on day 1 early. I don't think possible wolves that quickly voted Cody day 1 had a real opportunity to switch votes without catching a lot of attention, but I guess it looks favorable to him that he voted a wolf. Voted Audren on day 2. I consider his reasoning valid, although he admits not to do much this game. I do question why he doesn't think of my reasoning to question BC unreasonable, but I guess others think alike on that. Don't any of you find it strange that you admit to follow others around blindly and no one else sees him being very eager to be a wolf? In general, I consider ramius relatively unlikely to be a wolf.
Claude LC:
Voted Cody as well day 1 which helps a bit. I do think he should put in more thoughts, starting on why he prefered to lynch Alynkio over Audren. He started with a vote on Audren day 2 as well, but switched. Not terribly wrong moves, but I would like a reasoning with each move. Him not "liking the Audren case" might actually imply him knowing to be a villager. In general, I also feel the wolves are hidden amongst the people that aren't very active and are lurking around. I'd rate him average likely to be a wolf.
SPAMbuca:
Obvious villager
aedan777:
Apparantly likes to hang back a bit the first few days and react later. I personally got a feeling it's mostly to him not wanting to be in the early spotlights too much to avoid dying. Voted JM day 1. Wasn't really motivated. Maybe a notable fact is that Arkasas was hunted after he had his vote on Aedan. Arkasas switched later, but it caught my eye anyway. Voted Alynkio day 2. At least he motivated his vote on Alynkio, but I am not sure I agree. Especially hours away from the deadline, I don't think you want to kill the action by putting the bandwagon too far ahead and to keep discussion/action going, I think you want to keep multiple people close together in the early game. Incriminates Audren in his post too. I find that reasonable, although he turned out to be a villager. Has a fair point about Jeray as I don't personally like following votes because of meta reasons either, but doesn't necessarily mean Jeray is a wolf because of it. Fair point in his last part regarding Alynkio.
In general, I actually feel like he might be a relatively average to likely wolf due to his accusation record. In previous games, I actually remember you condemning people to put people too far ahead vote wise, but I'd have to look that up again. Might have a more clear opinion once he posts more.
Adamgerd/sub:
Extremely little to go on. Voted Cody and pushed him further into the lead, but I really wonder about his only relevant message. Guess it's impossible to ask now, but reading his post back, he might know more than he let on. Yet, I can't help but to rate him to be an unlikely wolf, due to him pushing the Cody lynch. Hope his sub is active at least.
alynkio:
Voted JM day 1, voted Audren day 2. Not the best voting record, but I have the exact same one. Doesn't look positive at this point though. Did vote Claude as well as Cody before he switched on day 1 as well. Initially, I could get behind his reasoning to vote JM, but he indeed might have tried to move the bandwagon away from Cody as well on day 1, similar to BC.
Puts in a lot of effort into his large post on day 2. Not all of it is useful though. His explanation doesn't fully explain to me his possible eagerness to switch the bandwagon around, which I see something seperate from him moving his vote from Claude to JM. You could even say, he could have moved his vote from Claude to JM, because his possible packmate Cody, already voted Claude and the wolves don't want to be caught voting the same person. I obviously disagree with him on me and BC, but agree with him on Voyager. I personally feel wolves could have done little to save Cody the moment he started to rake in votes. Some arguably might have tried to switch the bandwagon around, including people that voted Cody, but no one dared to move his vote in the end. Again, note a that a tie would not have saved Cody either.
After reading all of this back, I can't help but to rate Alynkio to be a relatively likely wolf.
Rovsea:
Throwaway vote on me day 1. Reasoning I do not understand at all. Maybe he can shed some light there. On day 2, he admits it was a quick vote and then says "he has a small reason for the vote, but he had no reason to assume I did". That's the vaguest line I ever read in the WW game. After. he puts down a vote down on Alynkio. The vote stands out to me, not because of the person he votes for, but because he again fails to give any explanation again. Later, he responds to me questioning him, which I initially missed apparantly, but I don't really get him there either. What evidence is he asking for? At the end of day 2, apparantly he tried to avoid a tie by removing his vote on Alynkio, but was apparantly too late. It's not too relevant, because Wombat already switched his vote, but again, what is his motivation? In fact, his initial vote on Alynkio looks like an alibi vote as he didn't give a good reason for it in the first place and the removes his vote for no given reason.
In general, I don't consider his posts to be very helpful to me. Either I don't get what he is saying, gives no explanation, or does something dubious. I would actually rate Rovsea to be a relatively likely wolf at the moment.
jeray2000:
Voted me initially day 1 with a reasoning that's extremely odd to me and then moves on to JM. Responds to Rovsea later in a way I have no clue what they are talking about either. Something about voting patterns that I do not think have a rational base. Changes vote after being called out by Wombat. While I might have to be grateful here, it could also be explained as backing off too easy and putting down a vote on an easy target, as that seemed to be the reason he voted JM. I personally read his argument as "No one would mind me voting JM right? he wants out anyway". Says he will take responsibility later for his vote, but that doesn't really mean anything at that point.
On day 2, he has a throwaway vote on Voyager, although I can see his reasoning. I don't really agree with him on BC, but that doesn't imply him to be a wolf necessarily. Jeray responds to 3 replies in the thread later, but I don't consider them really relevant. I agree his vote day 1 wasn't a throwaway like everyone else here I think.
So, in general, he actually has more posts in then I initially thought. Quite a few actually, but a lot of it is fluff I feel. His voting record so far isn't impressive. I suppose we get more info on Jeray once he starts adressing more people. At the moment, I do rate him relatively average to likely to be a wolf due to a few warning lights I mentioned earlier.
Jacksonian Missionary:
On day 1, he was the first one to vote Cody and he was the alternative to Cody so because if it, I'd automatically rate him very unlikely to be a wolf at this point. Although I wonder what caused the increased amount of interest after he got his role. He has a throwaway vote on me day 2 and I do not agree with his reasoning obviously, but I don't think it's suspicious necessarily. I adressed in Aedan's part why not. I honestly think you gain more information if you keep the votes close together in the early days.
After that, he didn't post anymore. Not a surprise as he announced from the start he would not have a lot of time to play, but I hope he can stay active. Yet, I'd rate him relatively unlikely to be a wolf.
deathbywombat:
Throwaway vote on Alynkio day 1. I consider it a throwaway vote as Arkasas' vote came extremely late and had little to no chance to have any meaning by keeping it there. He initially voted JM as well, but removed the vote later to Alynkio as said earlier. I must thank him for his personal support on day 1, but that doesn't make him a villager. I don't mind him probing Alynkio at all to get information.
Around the deadline, he tells me it's usual for BC to behave like he did and apparantly others agree, but BC's behaviour still makes me feel strange. Could be considered a soft defense in case BM would turn to be a wolf later. He also says Alynkio's defence was decent but in that case I wonder why he kept his vote on Alynkio if he dropped the matter way before the deadline. This is a further indication his vote was in fact a throwaway vote or maybe even an alibi vote.
On day 2, he has a vote on Audren. He starts of clearing JM, although that seems like a no brainer at that point. I think everyone agrees. A large post follows, in which more of the same follows. I disagree with him, but that doesn't necessarily make him a wolf. Some back and forth follows in which nothing new comes up. At the start of page 12, he posts a message in which he says BC is now probably cleared as villager, but I honestly don't understand the reason. I don't think anyone not knowing about the 2 seers in the game, says anything about your affinity and playing dumb is always an option.
I can get behind his reasoning to vote on Audren. Said it was a placeholder vote, but can't hold it against him to keep it if Audren doesn't show up. After, he says Spockyt brings up good points about Jeray, but that point was actually completely wrong. I feel his initial vote on Alynkio could be explained a whole lot better as I personally have no clue why he actually switched vote. After, he suggests a tie, but then breaks the tie and saves Alynkio? That latest moment is the biggest questionmark of yesterday to me. First, you vote Alynkio without explaining yourself, then you ask for a tie, then you snipe break the tie. I can't take your attacks on Alynkio serious now that you saved him for no reason.
Because of that and his voting record, I actually reckon Wombat a relatively very likely wolf at this point. He is very active, but I can't help but question his actions.
F72Voyager
Starts day 1 with a random vote which turns out to be a throwaway vote on Spockyt. On day 2, he actually votes on the least likely wolf and excuses himself for inactivity. Switches to Alynkio later, but without much motivation. Apart from that, nothing.
So, I can get someone's busy, but I can't help but define him as a lurker in this game at least. Based on what he did, I can't help but to rate him relatively likely to be a wolf, due to both his voting and inactivity.
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