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[De Chatillôn]

By the other way, I will explain my behaviour yesterday:

When Rovsea made his call for the warlock, I thought that I could try with an attempt for making contact. Not a great chance, but I wouldn't lose anything. So I PM'd Rovsea:

I'm your Warlock you incompetent wolf!!! You were trying to kill me when just showed yourself as a wolf for it!!!

Damn it, this game is more difficult now.

I blocked Aedan first day, Marshall the second and the last night I was blocking Claude. I think Claude is the most likely seer, but I don't know. Contact me if you need something.

Can you give me the rest of your blocks please?

There you have the list:

Night 1: Aedan
Night 2: Gen marshall
Night 3: Lemeard/Spockyt
Night 4: EURO
Night 5: Aedan
Night 6: Claude

Ok. We will be voting aedan for the win today, then.

Ok, I'm with you

I didn't think for a second they could bite that, but anyway I was expecting that maybe they could try a TIE between Rovsea and Aedan if they were seeing me voting Aedan as well. It didn't work.

I PM'd Aedan as well:

Hello Mr Aedan,

I contacted Rovsea saying that I'm the Warlock, to see if I could have some information about his pack...

I don't know if this information is true, but Rovsea wants that I vote against you along with all the rest of the wolves' pack so they could win today. I don't know if they trust me for real or he's just playing with me, but I needed to try.

My intention is, obviously, following his lead for the moment, because if this works correctly we could know all the wolves in a row. I will snipe to Rovsea in the last moment, but I want to see who are the players who votes against you until the last moment. Of course if we want this working we need all the villagers voting against Rovsea. I hope they'll do it.

An interesting proposal. We'll see where it leads, though not much I can do about it. I'll have to act offended in thread, or they'll smell a rat for sure.

They didn't bite.. a pity.

Now Marshall, stop being an idiot and kill some wolves.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

First of all, Chat, stop trying to convince me over PM, that isn't going to help you any more than just defending yourself in the thread.

Secondly, here's the votecount just before Rovsea's snipe:

Official count, day 5 17 minutes deadline​

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Spock:4​

De Chatillôn [412]​

Rovsea [413]​

Canadian_95_RTS [429]​

Health [448 Chat -> 476]​

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Canadien: 3​

jeray2000 [411]​

Claude LC [442]​

Spockyt [452 Chat -> 477]​

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Chat: 1​

Gen. Marshall [410]​

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Rovs: 1​

aedan777 [430]​

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Not voted: 0​

So no, Rovsea was not trying to kill De Chat.

The PMs look legit, though. I also agree that Canadian is an unlikely wolf, so I'll have a look at jeray and Claude.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Actually, no, the PMs don't mean shit. You're releasing conversations with a hunted villager and a known wolf, what exactly are they meant to prove?

 

[De Chatillôn]

Actually, no, the PMs don't mean ****. You're releasing conversations with a hunted villager and a known wolf, what exactly are they meant to prove?

Mother of god... Nothing Marshall, nothing. I don't know if you are obtuse willingly or not but I'm done this game with you. I have not the patience not the desire.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Both Claude and jeray have very few posts, unfortunately. I'd be rather annoyed if they end up being an inacti-pack. They also both subbed in for even more inactive players.

Well reading a little bit about everything that has happened with the last lynch. I can see that Claude 1.0 was a remarkable human being, that only wanted the best for his village and died defending it.

Moving on.

Reading about everything and I don't like the hax and lem attitude towards the village situation going on. Not really apporting that much and making some ummmm unsustained voting decisions and voted for villagers. So I would like to look forward into that. And see how things develop.

Vote Hax.

Claude's first post after he subbed in. Admittedly, it's rather odd that he immediately casts suspicion on two known villagers - along with the "see how things develop" wolf cue.

@Claude LC You said that you had an idea for a case before you were killed, why didn't you bring that up when you subbed in?

Seems like Lemeard is just inactive, since he didn't even vote, and it's no indicator of if he's a wolf.

jeray doesn't go after Lemeard/Spockyt at first, which would give him goodie points were he not put him into a TIE later:

Why? Explain it, why do you think a tie is a good idea.

I want to see who'll break it, and in favour of whom. We've still got three people who haven't voted, I want to see them put some thought in their votes.

I'll note that the TIE contained two known villagers.

Well before has been a lot of disscusion about the goodie list (been reading a little bit about it) about how probably the wolves hided a packmate there. But in the goodie list there was Torn (Hunt), Euro (Lynch) and Canadian (alive).
So I was thinking, why hunt someone of the goodie list? To prove that they all are "goodies".
Then in Night 2 it was between Claude (1.0) and Jackson so that night the list wasn't a factor. The next night also with the Hax situation.
But then for night 4 EURO was the main suspect, where the last survivor of our list voted for him.

And he was kind enough to put the votes for us, and we can see how he voted Claude (1.0), he voted Hax, and he vote EURO also.

The are a few possibilities here.
1. The list is pure goodie list and the wolves are trying to make us thing that there is a wolf in there and we lynch 3 inoccent villagers. And lose time in that.
2. There is actually a wolf in that list and the only survivor to this day is Canadian meaning he is a wolf.

But also there have been no hunts 2 nights in a row.... Or the wolves have another plan and we are not even near of finding them, or our GA has inmense luck and has prevented 2 hunts.

Was writing this and saw what Canadian post about being contacted by the GA. And how he asks the seer if there is one to contact him.
Also reading a little about this, if there is a possibility that there is a seer I think that if that was the case the first one to be scaned due to the situation of how the game started it would had been Canadian.
That if there is a seer.

If there is no seer and we only have a GA (still no proof of it) that means 3 wolves alive. That would mean 2 misslynches in a row for their win.

What makes me doubt a little bit about everything is that Canadian actually voted for Jackson in the first night. I mean he would never have been in that much danger anyway, maybe a vote for distraction?

Also why would the wolves want to kill Canadian of the goodie list if there was this "idea" that there was a packmate in there. Assuming Canadian is a villager, not hunting Canadian will had given the wolves time for other misslynches.

It doesn't seem logical the 2 night hunt over the same person, it doesn't give me a good vibe.

Vote Canadian.

I'm open to opinions and disscusion about this.

Yeaahhhh... I spent a long while trying to make sense of this post. It feels far-fetched rather than wolfish, unless his packmates told him to make a case on an obvious villager? It's odd that he would vote for Canadian, though.

The case against De Chat is really, really stupid. Voting for a wolf is the worst possible case there is. There are lots of bad cases lots of times, but actively helping the village is about as bad of a case there is.

I still think the case on Canadian is decent. Maybe the whole PM thing makes him an unlikely wolf, but he could have just felt like taking a chance. Besides, if there's no seer this game which seems likely between the GA claim and no outings yet, there'd have been no scanner to scan him.

Yeah. Major red flags here. Jeray votes for Canadian and actively tries to discourage people from voting for De Chat. Which actually worked, two people unvoted De Chat after this post and I think that paved the way for Rovsea to try and snipe.

Unvote Canadian
Vote Spock

I was trying to see in my PC, but I really don't know what time you are using, cause I know the deadline, but I think my PC is some minutes late or something, cause I was looking at the clock and for me the deadline is 16:00 and when your post came out it was 16:03 in my PC so I was little confused.

Any recomendations of were to look at that?

And then there's Claude's botched snipe after the deadline. This feels rather strange, to be honest. Would Rovsea have told Claude to snipe to Spockyt after the deadline to make him less suspicious, as a backup plan just in case Rovsea's snipe didn't work? I don't see where else Claude could have gotten the idea to snipe, he has never done that before.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Mother of god... Nothing Marshall, nothing. I don't know if you are obtuse willingly or not but I'm done this game with you. I have not the patience not the desire.

IMO there are three suspicious players and two of them should be wolves. I don't buy the Canadian-is-a-wolf conspiracy theories - which makes you a very likely wolf indeed.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Official count, day 6 5 hours and 28 minutes to deadline

Chat: 1
Gen. Marshall [546]

jeray: 1
De Chatillôn [555 Marshall -> 556]

Not voted: 3
@jeray2000 []
@Canadian_95_RTS []
@Claude LC []​

 

[jeray2000]

Canadian is a really unlikely villager reading his contact with Health. Marshall seems too stupid this game for being a wolf, I guess Wolf Marshall should be a little more cautious and his behaviour here seems too much.. just that, stupid and striking.

So... you and Claude are the last wolves. Easy. Anyway if Marshall continues being an idiot we're lost.

This is a really really bad case. You are claiming I am a wolf because two other players seem too innocent. It'd be all too easy for any of the other players to be your packmate and you're just clearing them with everyone else. That could work if the other players were indisputably innocent, and at this point I think that does apply to Canadian, but the others are not. Hell, even Claude could be your packmate, since if I get lynched before him and you two are wolves, then parity is reached even if you're claiming you're going to vote him the next day. And I'm not inclined to believe that you're just too stupid to be a wolf like you're applying Marshall. I'm going to

Vote De Chat

 

[Claude LC]

So Marshall allegations of me being a wolf because my "intricate" theorys about Canadian been a wolf, are non-sense.

So I see a couple of possibilities here.

First of all, back to the snipes and everything the other night. (I know my snipe was late, I was using a wrong clock that's why I didn't got it in time) (It's up to you to believe or not). Also with your allegation that it was a bad snipe continuing YOUR line of thought, if I wouldn't think about sniping because that something I don't do, why would I do a half snipe, that something I also don't do (this is your logic).
I believe that Canadian is definitvly not a wolf, cause there would be no point in sniping and killing a wolf in the process it would have been counterproductive.

So that leaves us with other 4 players.
Marshall, Chat, Jeray and myself. 2 wolfs, 2 villagers.

So couple of ideas and possibilites.
1.- Chat and Marshall are the wolves. Could make sense, having somehow Canadians trust in the voting. Also putting a whole "fight" act about who is wrong or right who is doing more silly stuff. That so we don't think they are working together. Could get a vote from Canadian to Jeray and at the end Marshall snipe him and win. Knowing that with 3 votes is more than enoguh and that Canadian will probably not follow my vote because I voted him once. Something like this. Chat 3 votes Me Jeray and Marshall. Jeray 2 votes Canadian and Chat, and then Marshall changes it and BUM.

2.- Chat and Jeray are the wolves. One kills the other one and assuring the trust of the village in this matter. And having an easy win tomorrow. Making a wolf standoff and see who is the last wolf standing. Could work either way. And if they kill the other one could gain trust between the few left.

3.- Jeray and Marshall are the wolves. Jeray could make a statement or simply revenge vote Chat because of voting him and with Marshalls vote that would be 2 will only need 1 more vote to win all the whole thing. An Canadian has suspected before of Chat.

If Chat is not a wolf he should rethink the Marshall is just being silly and careless theory, maybe he is just playing it like that because he knows that you will react in that way you reacted.

Other thing to have in mind, Marshall "agrees" with de Chat but is voting him anyway.

So I wrote all this and was waiting to see Jerays vote. With that I could also think of Marshall Jerays being wolves. By playing victims and voting Chat and already having 2 votes. Only needing one more.
Like first pulling attention to Jeray but at the end voting De Chat and making him look suspicious.

The Chat Marshall has my attention, I feel like a vibe out of the two of them. Like working apart, but last minute killing a villager so they win. Like a little act. "Come on Marshall see the things". "Chat you are just wrong" Bla bla bla.

But the Chat Jeray could also be, because they could have decided that one or the another should die, and if they kill each other people won't "suspect" about them being the last wolf.

Don't know if they are willing to kill a fellow packmate or they are looking for the win with both wolves alive....

Right now I haven't decided yet.
I wil go take a bath, eat some food.
And when I have my belly full
I will take my decision

(Don't think it matters no one listens to me )

 

[De Chatillôn]

This is a really really bad case. You are claiming I am a wolf because two other players seem too innocent. It'd be all too easy for any of the other players to be your packmate and you're just clearing them with everyone else. That could work if the other players were indisputably innocent, and at this point I think that does apply to Canadian, but the others are not. Hell, even Claude could be your packmate, since if I get lynched before him and you two are wolves, then parity is reached even if you're claiming you're going to vote him the next day. And I'm not inclined to believe that you're just too stupid to be a wolf like you're applying Marshall. I'm going to

Vote De Chat

Great this clears things. You are a wolf for sure now depends of Marshall if he's a villager or not. Or if he's absolutely incompetent

 

[De Chatillôn]

So Marshall allegations of me being a wolf because my "intricate" theorys about Canadian been a wolf, are non-sense.

So I see a couple of possibilities here.

First of all, back to the snipes and everything the other night. (I know my snipe was late, I was using a wrong clock that's why I didn't got it in time) (It's up to you to believe or not). Also with your allegation that it was a bad snipe continuing YOUR line of thought, if I wouldn't think about sniping because that something I don't do, why would I do a half snipe, that something I also don't do (this is your logic).
I believe that Canadian is definitvly not a wolf, cause there would be no point in sniping and killing a wolf in the process it would have been counterproductive.

So that leaves us with other 4 players.
Marshall, Chat, Jeray and myself. 2 wolfs, 2 villagers.

So couple of ideas and possibilites.
1.- Chat and Marshall are the wolves. Could make sense, having somehow Canadians trust in the voting. Also putting a whole "fight" act about who is wrong or right who is doing more silly stuff. That so we don't think they are working together. Could get a vote from Canadian to Jeray and at the end Marshall snipe him and win. Knowing that with 3 votes is more than enoguh and that Canadian will probably not follow my vote because I voted him once. Something like this. Chat 3 votes Me Jeray and Marshall. Jeray 2 votes Canadian and Chat, and then Marshall changes it and BUM.

2.- Chat and Jeray are the wolves. One kills the other one and assuring the trust of the village in this matter. And having an easy win tomorrow. Making a wolf standoff and see who is the last wolf standing. Could work either way. And if they kill the other one could gain trust between the few left.

3.- Jeray and Marshall are the wolves. Jeray could make a statement or simply revenge vote Chat because of voting him and with Marshalls vote that would be 2 will only need 1 more vote to win all the whole thing. An Canadian has suspected before of Chat.

If Chat is not a wolf he should rethink the Marshall is just being silly and careless theory, maybe he is just playing it like that because he knows that you will react in that way you reacted.

Other thing to have in mind, Marshall "agrees" with de Chat but is voting him anyway.

So I wrote all this and was waiting to see Jerays vote. With that I could also think of Marshall Jerays being wolves. By playing victims and voting Chat and already having 2 votes. Only needing one more.
Like first pulling attention to Jeray but at the end voting De Chat and making him look suspicious.

The Chat Marshall has my attention, I feel like a vibe out of the two of them. Like working apart, but last minute killing a villager so they win. Like a little act. "Come on Marshall see the things". "Chat you are just wrong" Bla bla bla.

But the Chat Jeray could also be, because they could have decided that one or the another should die, and if they kill each other people won't "suspect" about them being the last wolf.

Don't know if they are willing to kill a fellow packmate or they are looking for the win with both wolves alive....

Right now I haven't decided yet.
I wil go take a bath, eat some food.
And when I have my belly full
I will take my decision

(Don't think it matters no one listens to me )

I've read It. It was a good analysis, maybe I should think about the Marshall's thing because he's not so incompetent usually, maybe he's just playing silly as you say. But jeray is a wolf for sure. Mmmm, need to think.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Official count, day 6 87 minutes to deadline

Chat: 2
Gen. Marshall [546]
jeray2000 [568]

jeray: 1
De Chatillôn [555 Marshall -> 556]

Not voted: 2
@Canadian_95_RTS []
@Claude LC []​

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Right, I see. As much as De Chat likes to call me incompetent, I think I've made some pretty solid analysis.

@Canadian_95_RTS , you better show up though.

 

[Canadian_95_RTS]

Sorry for the late voting. Besides good popcorn material, I did have other things going on most of the day. In any case, I'm in agreement that De Chat's actions are extremely wolfish. As a side note, I do have stuff going on at deadline, so I can't snipe.

Vote De Chatillon

 

[De Chatillôn]

My actions are wolvish why exactly? Because I voted a wolf like jackson and I tried to get some Info from Rovsea as I already explained? Really the case on me cant be more stupid. Im the only player here who voted against two wolves and still Im going to be lynched, really amazing

Ok then. Thats the end of the game. Congrats to the wolves. I guess they deserves it. Really bad played from the village.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Im the only player here who voted against two wolves

No, you aren't.

You are, however, the only player to constantly twist the truth, make false claims, pretend like wolves have been trying to kill you. Maybe that's the wolfish behaviour Canadian is talking about.

TBH, you look like a sore loser, going on and on about how I'm playing poorly instead of either making a defence, or accepting that you've been caught.

 

[jeray2000]

@Claude LC Remember to vote.

 

[jeray2000]

@Claude LC Remember to vote.

Woops I thought it was an hour later than it was.

 

[De Chatillôn]

No, you aren't.

You are, however, the only player to constantly twist the truth, make false claims, pretend like wolves have been trying to kill you. Maybe that's the wolfish behaviour Canadian is talking about.

TBH, you look like a sore loser, going on and on about how I'm playing poorly instead of either making a defence, or accepting that you've been caught.

As I already said, Im done with you this game. If you re really a villager as you said (I doubt about that, but who knows) you should think why the wolves let you live despite your obvious tunneling against me

 

[De Chatillôn]

Also the village should think why Jeray is voting me despite the fact he said the case con me was stupid (he's right about that, obviously)