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Duke Dan `the Man`

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Vote Tonka
 

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Jackson raises a good point about Tonka, which makes Dan's vote incredibly lazy.

UNVOTE TONKA
VOTE DUKE DAN


Nope, a better case has arisen.
 

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Sadly Cliges' record didn't bring up too much (thanks Cody). Would Cliges point so blatantly towards his packmate with a vote on him? Or is it some sort of double bluff? Worth a look at least.

VOTE TONKATOY

It could be, or it could just be a bluff, or a triple bluff, etc. Basically, we can't really say much about tonka's alignment from Cliges' vote.

We have a woeful lack of analysable material (thanks to comm "the idiot" cody).

Duke Dan's piling onto tonka now seems suspicious af, but I don't want to do the same myself now. Good candidate though.

I'm going to vote Jacksonian for creating a triple tie on Day 4 pre-outing. Yes, same thing could be said about me for voting Duke Dan to bring him into the tie, but we don't know Dan's alignment yet, while we do know Health's, meaning the probability is higher (from an outsider perspective) that Jackson is bad than that I am bad.

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Just for information's sakes, if we lynch a single villager today, we lose. If we lynch a single wolf today, we must lynch a wolf tomorrow out of four players. If we TIE a villager and a wolf, we must lynch a wolf tomorrow out of three players. If we feel strongly about two candidates, it may be worth a TIE.
 

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Just for information's sakes, if we lynch a single villager today, we lose. If we lynch a single wolf today, we must lynch a wolf tomorrow out of four players. If we TIE a villager and a wolf, we must lynch a wolf tomorrow out of three players. If we feel strongly about two candidates, it may be worth a TIE.

I feel like our chances are quite low indeed, unfortunately. Even if we hypothetically tie a wolf and a villager, the wolf may be able to just snipe. And what if we tie the two remaining wolves? And one of the wolves snipes to the other? Would we really lynch the other player who was in the tie?
 

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Just for information's sakes, if we lynch a single villager today, we lose. If we lynch a single wolf today, we must lynch a wolf tomorrow out of four players. If we TIE a villager and a wolf, we must lynch a wolf tomorrow out of three players. If we feel strongly about two candidates, it may be worth a TIE.
On one hand I would like a tie to increase the likelyhood of hitting a wolf, but on the other hand I don't see anything convincing case that is worth a tie.

I'm going to vote Jacksonian for creating a triple tie on Day 4 pre-outing. Yes, same thing could be said about me for voting Duke Dan to bring him into the tie, but we don't know Dan's alignment yet, while we do know Health's, meaning the probability is higher (from an outsider perspective) that Jackson is bad than that I am bad.

Vote Jacksonian Missionary
Ties increase information we can gather, especially since we have had absolutely no information to go off of. I'm sorry if trying to stimulate some sort of activity is wolfish to you, especially when you were doing the same thing. I fail to see how Heath flipping Goodie means I'm bad, all that really proves is that I wasn't in the JL.
 

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Ties increase information we can gather, especially since we have had absolutely no information to go off of. I'm sorry if trying to stimulate some sort of activity is wolfish to you, especially when you were doing the same thing. I fail to see how Heath flipping Goodie means I'm bad, all that really proves is that I wasn't in the JL.

No, I agree that what I wrote isn't really a case, but what else is there to go on?

What I meant is this: both you and I created a tie with EURO (I created a two-way tie, you created a 3-way tie) - I voted Duke Dan to accomplish this, you voted Health. For an outsider, it is more likely that a wolf would vote a goodie to create a tie, rather than another wolf (not 100%, but more likely). Now, an outsider doesn't know what Duke Dan's role is, but he does know that Health is a goodie. So, conditionally, for that outsider, the probability is higher that you are a wolf than that I am a wolf.
 

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My hunch based of voting patterns and such is Jacksonian. It's where I would have gone yesterday if there was no outting.

Vote: Jacksonian Missionary
 

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Audren also worries me. Tonka is clear for voting Euro but then jumps right into voting for Dan ... who also was voting for Euro but would be an easier mislynch because he's Dan.

Lemeard did not have a fantastic voting record either.
 

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My hunch based of voting patterns and such is Jacksonian. It's where I would have gone yesterday if there was no outting.

Vote: Jacksonian Missionary
Voting patterns? What goddamn voting patterns? We have no voting patterns thanks to Cody and Heath's 2 outings! This is absurdity and such a lazy vote. Your just trying to make sure you don't have a throwaway vote.

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Voting patterns? What goddamn voting patterns? We have no voting patterns thanks to Cody and Heath's 2 outings! This is absurdity and such a lazy vote. Your just trying to make sure you don't have a throwaway vote.

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Sent this to Health yesterday:

Hey,

So im a villager (I know, that's what they all say) and I nktic Jackson and Eur voted together d1 and pre outing.

Pass along to the seer that maybe Jack should be scanned. Thanks!

His response was:

Will see what can be done.






Also a revenge vote. Not at all wolfish. Nope. No sir.
 

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Sent this to Health yesterday:

Hey,

So im a villager (I know, that's what they all say) and I nktic Jackson and Eur voted together d1 and pre outing.

Pass along to the seer that maybe Jack should be scanned. Thanks!

His response was:

Will see what can be done.






Also a revenge vote. Not at all wolfish. Nope. No sir.
Lol and you can't even provide an actual PM? What a crock of shit. And yes, I will vote people who vote me (a villager) for so idiotic of reasons that it is most likely they area wolf. And do you honestly think Euro and I would just plan to vote with each other on a single day pre outing? What a joke.
 

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Lol and you can't even provide an actual PM? What a crock of shit. And yes, I will vote people who vote me (a villager) for so idiotic of reasons that it is most likely they area wolf. And do you honestly think Euro and I would just plan to vote with each other on a single day pre outing? What a joke.

Revenge vote.
"Would I do that as a wolf" defense.
 

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Revenge vote.
"Would I do that as a wolf" defense.
Not a revenge vote moron.

Either way, even if you could provide such a PM, what does that even do? Do you really think that as soon as you sent that PM, my supposed wolf sense tingled and magically knew who the seer was so I ordered his hunting? How dense are you?
 

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Not a revenge vote moron.

Either way, even if you could provide such a PM, what does that even do? Do you really think that as soon as you sent that PM, my supposed wolf sense tingled and magically knew who the seer was so I ordered his hunting? How dense are you?

Interesting arguement friend, where did I say you ordered the hunt based on my PM? Why are you changing the narrative of my vote?
 

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Interesting arguement friend, where did I say you ordered the hunt based on my PM? Why are you changing the narrative of my vote?
Still no PMs. And your vote makes no sense, because your voting me because a wolf happened to vote the same person I did 3 days ago. Then you tried to use a BS PM to the JL spokesman to try and validate it.
 

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Still no PMs. And your vote makes no sense, because your voting me because a wolf happened to vote the same person I did 3 days ago. Then you tried to use a BS PM to the JL spokesman to try and validate it.

I can see no way in which Nikk was suggesting that you hunted Health. I don't know what he's arguing, but it's not that. Why mention that?
 

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Still no PMs. And your vote makes no sense, because your voting me because a wolf happened to vote the same person I did 3 days ago. Then you tried to use a BS PM to the JL spokesman to try and validate it.

A) even if I post the pm you'll call it fabricated

B) cannot include post number so it's the same as what I posted earlier with quote tags bud. Not really proof.

C) waiting on a rule clarification from mod, but the pm is a small piece. In the two days we have to work with you followed eur both days man. To me, that's better than any other arguement I see in thread.


[QUOTE="2kNikk]Hey,

So im a villager (I know, that's what they all say) and I nktic Jackson and Eur voted together d1 and pre outing.

Pass along to the seer that maybe Jack should be scanned. Thanks![/QUOTE]
 

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I can see no way in which Nikk was suggesting that you hunted Health. I don't know what he's arguing, but it's not that. Why mention that?
It seemed to me he was trying to validate his "PM" and I interpreted his rambling nonsense wrong. Sometimes that happens when you get hot headed with idiotic votes.