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Audren starts a push towards Wagonlitz, with his earlier reasoning back in the thread somewhat.
EURO immediately says that we must lynch Jacksonian.
He then proceeds to make four posts in a row all saying 'vote jacksonian' like this
Unfortunate timing for EURO if he's a villager.
Audren keeps hammering on Wagonlitz
I'm quite certain that were I a wolf, I would have kept the vote on a packmate once made, but hey. It looks bad.
Wombat acknowledges his presences but refuses to take a stance. It is also probable other players were online f.e. Aedan but did nothing.
Marshall is also around, but does not vote Wagon, although he does switch to Jackson, even though he is already way ahead.
Although to be fair, Jacksonian's whining was almost lynch-worth on itself. And that is indeed what secures his fate, ironically.
Aedan drops in only to comment that both cases are rubbish, essentially absolving himself of any responsibility for the lynch, and maintains a throwaway on Rovsea.
Najs does likewise, keeping his vote on Audren.
Essentially only Audren comes out of the first day looking good and quite a few others bad. I don't like great, but I think objectively my meaningless flip-flop makes no real sense for a wolf to do. EURO was essentially ordering people to vote Jacksonian and not Wagonlitz. For anyone else this would be a lynchable offence, but here, I think it makes him only slightly suspicious. Marshall Wombat Aedan and Najs all get the finger of suspicion because they were online in the thread but refused to take any action. This is, historically, the most common wolfish response to a packmate getting run up. Not trying to save them, not railroading them, but simply doing nothing. So far I wouldn't be surprised if two of these four were the remaining wolves, but it's only a day's evidence, still not much.
I'll do day 2 in a bit. Hopefully there's a lot to look there for the Hazbot lynch, because quite simply there isn't anything worthwhile on day 3.
Hard to say. The only odd opinions I've heard coming from wombat are on marty and myself, with his insistence that I am cleared making me lean towards inside info.
Don't think that's what he was implying. The implication is that you were starting to push for Jackson's lynch to save Wagon.
No I'm saying it looks bad in hindsight (20/20 and all). That was fairly clear I thought...
There was nothing unfortunate about the timing or anything relating to the Jacksonian lynch. He deserved to hang, and anyone who will throw mud my way in some veiled attempt at corroding my credibility will be met with my unfettered contempt.
Day 2
Audren keeps going after Wagonlitz. I just don't see him as a wolf.
Skobelev puts the first vote on Hazbot - important. Then a lot of alive people voting other alive people and dead villagers. I mean there's potential stuff there but for now I'm focusing on hard votes relating to wolves.
Marshall makes the second vote on Hazbot. Not a lot of reasoning, but again a critical vote, this is what makes Hazbot a candidate. EURO then piles on. I don't consider this to be clearing at all as Hazbot was not very useful to the wolf side I imagine (unless behind the scenes he was controlling everything iunno). Wagonlitz follows (another reason I don't consider EURO's vote clearing) and then Ike does, who is dead. So after this, no votes for him after this point are really worth shit.
Najs again posts while a wolf is being run up but doesn't make any kind of vote.
Audren makes a push to try and save Hazbot but overall I think it doesn't begin to cancel out his championing of Wagonlitz as a lynch.
I think, while EURO would be more than happy to lynch either of these two as packmates, he wouldn't put both in danger of a tie. Probably...
Marshall unvotes Hazbot. But his reasoning is sound. I don't think a wolf would have done what he did.
Rovsea switches to hazbot (I'm not really bothering analysing him as he is JL. Even if he's lying about everything and was responsible for murdering Spocky, I'm not able to lynch him today). Wagon follows, condemning his packmate. Euro makes a weird switch from Wagonlitz to Ike or something.
So, after today: Audren, Najs (reluctantly), Skobelev and Marshall all look good. Tamius and Aedan notably continue to have absolutely no influence on the game either way.
I...didn't really want to do this, as it's just following on Marshall's coattails, but I am going to vote Wombat. Not at all for the same reasons. I'm gonna vote Wombat. Because the voting record is against him, and partly out of self-preservation, too.
Vote DeathbyWombat
Audren keeps going after Wagonlitz. I just don't see him as a wolf.
Skobelev puts the first vote on Hazbot - important. Then a lot of alive people voting other alive people and dead villagers. I mean there's potential stuff there but for now I'm focusing on hard votes relating to wolves.
Marshall makes the second vote on Hazbot. Not a lot of reasoning, but again a critical vote, this is what makes Hazbot a candidate. EURO then piles on. I don't consider this to be clearing at all as Hazbot was not very useful to the wolf side I imagine (unless behind the scenes he was controlling everything iunno). Wagonlitz follows (another reason I don't consider EURO's vote clearing) and then Ike does, who is dead. So after this, no votes for him after this point are really worth shit.
Wombat then does this.
Najs again posts while a wolf is being run up but doesn't make any kind of vote.
Audren makes a push to try and save Hazbot but overall I think it doesn't begin to cancel out his championing of Wagonlitz as a lynch.
Another switch by EURO, to the other wolf. Interesting.
I think, while EURO would be more than happy to lynch either of these two as packmates, he wouldn't put both in danger of a tie. Probably...
Marshall unvotes Hazbot. But his reasoning is sound. I don't think a wolf would have done what he did.
Wagonlitz switches to Najs, propelling him into the lead. Damn...I was building up Najs as potential #2 suspect but this is actually quite clearing.
Rovsea switches to hazbot (I'm not really bothering analysing him as he is JL. Even if he's lying about everything and was responsible for murdering Spocky, I'm not able to lynch him today). Wagon follows, condemning his packmate. Euro makes a weird switch from Wagonlitz to Ike or something.
So, after today: Audren, Najs (reluctantly), Skobelev and Marshall all look good. Tamius and Aedan notably continue to have absolutely no influence on the game either way.
I...didn't really want to do this, as it's just following on Marshall's coattails, but I am going to vote Wombat. Not at all for the same reasons. I'm gonna vote Wombat. Because the voting record is against him, and partly out of self-preservation, too.
Vote DeathbyWombat
I feel you're deliberately misinterpreting my comments here. All I'm saying is that from a strict voting history perspective it doesn't look good. You know that. I still have not said you were a suspect. But if a wolf is being run up and someone else immediately starts a loud campaign to vote a villager instead, that is at the very least notable. Even if it's you doing it, it's still the stuff I tend to record. And you know that.
Nice to know even the EURO in his active moments can be horribly and embarassingly wrong. Regardless, from my standpoint there are 6 possible wolves: aedan, marty, EURO, Audren, Najs, and tamius. I make a probing case on Audren and immediately get pushback from EURO for being tied to him. Generally speaking, his reaction appears to be what I'd expect from him as a villager. Good. Cross one potential wolf off the list.
Let's poke another hole - a less active one.
Unvote Audren
Vote tamius23
Also, just for the record, those of you who are voting me are certifiable idiots.
I may have misinterpreted your words, though by no means was I deliberate about it. You are high on my suspect list at the moment, and I'm going to scrutinize every word you post. Get used to it.
Neither Audren nor Najs are wolves, almost certainly. I question your competence if you think they could be. Tamius is a good option for a wolf, though. And, in fact, the fact you're going after him means there's a strong chance at least one of you is a wolf.
Unvote Wombat
Vote Tamius
Still think wombat is a wolf but I think a tie between these two would be excellent.
Fine. That was probably one of my less egregious moments though. Others have brought up admittedly valid reasons why I could be a wolf.
Why do we need a tie? There is absolutely no reason for a tie right now. Marty and Wombat confirmed for packmates.
Why not? The seer is dead, there is no more mathematical value in prolonging the number of days. Quite simply, if we have a two-way tie, we lynch two potential suspects for every 1 villager the wolves hunt. If we single lynch, we only lynch one potential suspect for every villager the wolves hunt. That's pure mathematics. We maximise our chances at lynching all good suspects if we go for ties.