Werewolf Lite CCCLXIII: Ace Attorney

[Gen. Marshall]

I tend to agree with this assessment, since Ike's reasons for voting people are... not particularly helpful and basically amount to "bite me." Actually, fits in with tamius' running theory that packmates tend to alibi vote day 1 as well, if his theory that spock is a wolf is correct.

Vote Emperor Ike

Also a bit wary of spock (that last throwaway vote on Ike when Jackson was dead to rights, Hazbot (3rd vote on Jackson, making him back into a contender), aedan (see my comment on his vote), and Marty (see below).

So if Spock is a wolf, which could be but doesn't have any particularly good case other than inactivity, then he could have casted a throwaway on a packmate, which could be Emperor Ike? "Bite me" is not good wolf behaviour, it tends to get you lynched, and I presume Ike knows this.

Generally unimpressed by your analysis which seems to consist mostly of summarizing events without doling out much judgment, though I suppose it is still Day 1.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Euro was this active when I restarted playing. And what I've followed recent Lites I think this is the third Lite in a row where he's very active.

This. As far as I can see it is just EURO getting back to his old activity; remember that he used to often be the one with the by far most posts.

Hm. Maybe I'm reading too much into this if you always do that, but in my experience people who PM me in a Lite are usually either wolves or the seer.

Though perhaps that's the reason why villagers don't PM me

There from time to time are villagers contacting each other; most often happens when the seer is dead I think. I have been in a few PJLs which started with villagers contacting those they thought were really likely villagers.

 

[Najs]

And yet you didn't vote for Jackson.



I'm reading this as "Please don't make me vote for a villager to lynch him". Also I'm pretty sure he was at less than 6 votes.



Ike is not a valid lynch target unless you accept EURO's mentality of killing useless villagers. He's been drawing the bad kind of attention to himself all game and would be the stupidest wolf in this game's history if he is one. He's the easy lynch today and a safe player for a wolf to vote without repercussions.

Unvote Rovsea
Vote Najs

The reasoning for the first quote follows quite clearly from the second quote. How many votes was he at then? My count was quick and served only to determine that he was dead and that there was no need for me to switch.

And stupid wolves are not unheard of. Even so, I am not advocating Ike's death because of his own actions. I am advocating it for the actions of others, meaning his death may be meaningful in determining motives and agendas of these other players.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

The reasoning for the first quote follows quite clearly from the second quote. How many votes was he at then? My count was quick and served only to determine that he was dead and that there was no need for me to switch.

If you thought he was suspicious, you should have switched. Hell, you should have switched far earlier when Jackson was only at 3 votes and already you were talking about him being suspicious. Right now, it mostly looks like you trying to avoid looking bad in the votecounts - something which seems to work, given the lack of attention on you even when the likes of tamius are going after non-Jackson voters for being suspicious.

 

[Najs]

If you thought he was suspicious, you should have switched. Hell, you should have switched far earlier when Jackson was only at 3 votes and already you were talking about him being suspicious. Right now, it mostly looks like you trying to avoid looking bad in the votecounts - something which seems to work, given the lack of attention on you even when the likes of tamius are going after non-Jackson voters for being suspicious.

Do quote me on the part where I've said he was suspicious when he was at three votes.
As for not switching - it was not necessary to kill Jackson.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Do quote me on the part where I've said he was suspicious when he was at three votes.
As for not switching - it was not necessary to kill Jackson.

Something like this? May be a joke, may not be, but it's overly fixated on Jackson as a candidate and conducive to getting him lynched - all the while not actually voting for him.

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I'll quote EURO on this one;

I trust myself over anybody else, and therefore want to see my suspicions turned into lynches.

VOTE NAJS

 

[Emperor Ike]

Once again I need to come out of the Ikea closet that I've been put by the corrupt lawyers. I can say that my record is clear and I am in deed lawyer. I simply unvoted Jackson because I didn't want to be part of your evil lynch mob for a good lawyer. You guys followed EURO last time and look what happened? You are going to follow him again if you vote me and the same thing will happen. Should have probably used my unvote to someone like Wagon or something instead of trying to make it a 4-some gangbang. How was I to know you would so blindly follow EURO. I'm clearly being used as a scapegoat here and the blame of you people lynching Jackson is tried to be set on me.

Now I'm voting for Audren since someone tried to connect us somehow to each other. This of course can once again be turned into "throwaway vote for a packmate" which I can assure it is not. The only way Audren and I are connected is that if he is a good lawyer.

So as closing words; Vote me and you most certainly vote for a villager. Vote for someone else and you might actually get a wolfpack member.

 

[Najs]

Something like this? May be a joke, may not be, but it's overly fixated on Jackson as a candidate and conducive to getting him lynched - all the while not actually voting for him.

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I'll quote EURO on this one;



VOTE NAJS

So your current case is based on me humorously flaunting my worthless day 0 prediction at the banter between Bentley and Jackson?

 

[EUROO7]

How was I to know you would so blindly follow EURO.

Can we get away from this? I urge you.

If you don't have a meaningful counterclaim to the case on you, don't be lazy and resort to the classic "U Guise R Following Euro Blindly" defense. It neither helps your case, nor promotes the serious discourse of the day.

Stop blaming other people for your incompetence. Actually defend yourself, or die. Those are your options. I urge you to take the first.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Once again I need to come out of the Ikea closet that I've been put by the corrupt lawyers. I can say that my record is clear and I am in deed lawyer. I simply unvoted Jackson because I didn't want to be part of your evil lynch mob for a good lawyer. You guys followed EURO last time and look what happened? You are going to follow him again if you vote me and the same thing will happen. Should have probably used my unvote to someone like Wagon or something instead of trying to make it a 4-some gangbang. How was I to know you would so blindly follow EURO. I'm clearly being used as a scapegoat here and the blame of you people lynching Jackson is tried to be set on me.

Now I'm voting for Audren since someone tried to connect us somehow to each other. This of course can once again be turned into "throwaway vote for a packmate" which I can assure it is not. The only way Audren and I are connected is that if he is a good lawyer.

So as closing words; Vote me and you most certainly vote for a villager. Vote for someone else and you might actually get a wolfpack member.

Vote Najs.

So your current case is based on me humorously flaunting my worthless day 0 prediction at the banter between Bentley and Jackson?

No, and you know it isn't. Much as you like to deny it, it's based on you refusing to vote for Jackson even though you said you found him suspicious.

 

[EUROO7]

The only way Audren and I are connected is that if he is a good lawyer.

Do you think he might be a wolf?

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Do you think he might be a wolf?

Yeah, I think Najs is a wolf. You should vote for him.

 

[EUROO7]

Yeah, I think Najs is a wolf. You should vote for him.

I see what you're trying to do. Let me give you a nickel's worth of advice: Stop.

 

[Najs]

Vote Najs.



No, and you know it isn't. Much as you like to deny it, it's based on you refusing to vote for Jackson even though you said you found him suspicious.

My suspicions against Jackson arose at the same time as Skob's - that is, when he posted that crap about subbing pre-emptively. That you think you've found a slip in a joke does not change that fact.

 

[Emperor Ike]

Do you think he might be a wolf?

As much as you think voting me gets rid of a wolf. Know I don't think he is a wolf but I also don't think he isn't. At this point only a scanner would know it or the wolfs.

 

[EUROO7]

As much as you think voting me gets rid of a wolf. Know I don't think he is a wolf but I also don't think he isn't. At this point only a scanner would know it or the wolfs.

Which is why I didn't ask if you knew that he was a wolf, I asked if you thought he was a wolf.

Would you vote to lynch Audren today?

 

[Gen. Marshall]

I see what you're trying to do. Let me give you a nickel's worth of advice: Stop.

I know you know. Still, some comments from someone else than Najs would be appreciated, barring any other attention to him.

My suspicions against Jackson arose at the same time as Skob's - that is, when he posted that crap about subbing pre-emptively. That you think you've found a slip in a joke does not change that fact.

Then you should have voted for him.

 

[Emperor Ike]

Which is why I didn't ask if you knew that he was a wolf, I asked if you thought he was a wolf.

Would you vote to lynch Audren today?

Objection! Trying to trick the witness.

 

[Najs]

I know you know. Still, some comments from someone else than Najs would be appreciated, barring any other attention to him.



Then you should have voted for him.

There was no need, he was dead. I told you this already. Your vote sealed his fate.

But I do have to apologize, I confused you with Skob. Something about the names.

 

[EUROO7]

Objection! Trying to trick the witness.

Yes, or no.

Whether I change my vote or not depends on your answer.