So you agree with me that the only good lawyer is a dead lawyer!
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Nobody should be afraid to speak up their minds. It's given that most cases will be false (or fake, depending on potential inside info), at least on first day(s). And fair enough, I couldn't be around deadline either (sleep rhythm is completely messed up - I blame the increase in light as sun can actually be seen again after work) but you should try to make meaningful contribution when you can. It usually also helps with survival in the game as people are less likely to whack somebody for zombieism if they speak up their mind and try to voice their opinion. It doesn't have to be huge treatise that gets written nor should it necessarily have tons of quotes. Even few words for or against candidates will be helpful.
Also you never saw that your vote was officially invalid as GM never provided final vote count. *insert rant about hack GM*
It's only day 2 so the case definitely isn't watertight. I don't want to make the same mistake I made when I played last by subbing in and then getting too fixated on Jacksonian Missionary - which turned out to be false lead. Naturally I want to see how people react to various candidates that get introduced and how the arguments go for and against them. And it's not just Audren who protects Ike here so I doubt they would all be baddies and make such rookie mistake. Anyways, I'm also second guessing myself as the connection looks too obvious.
And meta of roles: Euro is entirely correct, of course. Players tend to develop their own distinct style over time which can be wildly differing. Though the thought of 17 Euros in same Lite does have certain charm. Kind of reminds me of that "Trumps only -debate" gif that Euro posted in the primary lite.
Well, present your case against those you find most likely wolves, then. Yesterday your contribution wasn't exactly stellar.
I've been recently taking some courses on administrative law and I can concur that most lawyers would benefit from additional jail time. Best part was when the lawyer said "it doesn't matter [in the case of social benefits claim] if the claim is refused or accepted as long as the justification for doing it can be derived from law".
Kid, you don't want to be alone in the same room as Clay Davis! You want me to be there with you.
What a fascinating and compelling defense. Anyone who thought of voting you will surely be dissuaded by this stunning piece of rhetoric and logic.
I'm still thinking Rovsea's the most suspicion, from his odd fixation on his case on Wagonlitz and the fallout in relation to Audren. His response to my posts today make him seem worse, since he defaulted to aggressive defense when I hadn't voted him, and backed off as soon as I pointed that out. Seems like a wolf trying to keep votes off him more than a villager trying to find wolves.
Vote Rovsea
Yes, that too. (That colour is horrible on here.)Just wait until XCOM 2 comes out on Friday
I don't know when, or even if I'm going to be back. I feel a bit suspicious about Tamius, due to even more inactivity them me, if I'm correct.
Vote Tamius.
Vote Tamius.
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The connection between me and Ike seems too obvious because it is too obvious. At that time I was convinced that Wagon was the only one run up with even some sort of case, and I will always prefer to lynch somebody with a halfway decent case than one without. Had Jackson not exploded in the votes or Ike climbed higher, I would of course have switched to save myself without hesitation.
Indeed we’re connected through our heart and the devastating part is that I foolishly defend him to myself. But secrets always have a way of coming out.
Well, you might be asking yourself why I backed off so quickly. See last game.
No. You only replied to half his post and even then leave your defense up to our willingness to check last game. Make an actual defence.
Unvote EURO
VOTE ROVSEA
I see that you're trying to apply pressure yourself. Well, had you checked last game, you would have found that myself and aedan fixated somewhat on each other when we should have been finding wolves to kill. Becoming too suspicious of somebody can actually be a bad thing, because if you're wrong, then you end up wasting a lot of time and effort. I've seen that in some of aedan's past games, Wagon is somewhat known for fixating on people, and to be honest, I probably did so as well last game (and quite probably in other games). Do I think that aedan is wolfish? No. Do I find Audren somewhat suspicious? Yes, because something about his behavior struck me as off, and as clearly as I could identify it it was his reaction to EURO, which aedan has criticized. I see that Skobie has also isolated some aspects of Audren's behavior thus far that seem off. I went back just a bit to view Audren's fleshing out of Wagon's case, to use EURO's words, and it seems that it is weaker given that Jacksonian is a villager. I will say this, upon review of that part of the thread, what strikes me most is Audren's insistence that Jackson was a wolf, and that his "meltdown is characteristic of his wolf play" ( Audren p20 #383). I honestly don't think that this is something that Audren would do as a wolf. It draws a lot of attention to him, before the result of the vote is seen. In addition, there's really no need to do so if you already know Jackson's role, and I don't think he'd try and build a case on Wagonlitz as a wolf that was somewhat depndent on Jacksonian turning up wolf (which a wolf would know wouldn't happen). I've sort of been thinking out loud here as I go back through the thread just a bit (not soething I do as often as I should). Primarily, I think what did most stand out to me is that Audren went from, in post 395 (again on p.20) maybe EURO being assertive is just something that he does, we don't know yet, he hasn't been this active in a while to It's probably just a trait of his, which felt like a packmate covering another packmate to me. In retrospect, the language clearly isn't that extreme, and it's not super indicative one way or the other.
I expect to be on later, but just in case I'm not, a relatively interesting vote.
Vote EURO
Vote EURO
And again, would you repeat the case on Wagonlitz? Anyways, what made you decide immediately that Ike wasn't good lynch target when he got into lead? And if the connection between you isn't real, what do you make out of fact that Najs popped up to question Wagonlitz voting Ike while otherwise remaining under radar?
Euro was this active when I restarted playing. And what I've followed recent Lites I think this is the third Lite in a row where he's very active.
Based on him driving Jacksonian up or something else?
Rovsea: 2
aedan777 [425]
Gen. Marshall [391 EUROO7 -> 433]
Wagonlitz: 1
Audren [395]
Hazbot: 1
Gen. Skobelev [416]
Emperor Ike: 1
EUROO7 [419]
tamius23: 1
Spockyt [428]
EUROO7: 1
Rovsea [435]
not voted: 7
deathbytwombat []
Hazbot []
marty99 []
Wagonlitz []
Najs []
tamius23 []
Emperor Ike []
aedan777 [425]
Gen. Marshall [391 EUROO7 -> 433]
Wagonlitz: 1
Audren [395]
Hazbot: 1
Gen. Skobelev [416]
Emperor Ike: 1
EUROO7 [419]
tamius23: 1
Spockyt [428]
EUROO7: 1
Rovsea [435]
not voted: 7
deathbytwombat []
Hazbot []
marty99 []
Wagonlitz []
Najs []
tamius23 []
Emperor Ike []
I asked him what made him change his vote. The first two switchers were obvious, both self-preservatory. Wagonlitz, not so much.
As for being under the radar, I tend to play that way. I don't care much for posting without reading through the thread, which requires time. Werewolf is not my foremost priority.
While Wagonlitz would be a decent lynch, I personally believe there could be a great deal to learn from lynching Ike. After all, he was the center of a switch that crumbled as quick as it arose. This would of course assume that at least one or two Ike-voters were wolves who decided to bail when it got too hot. I like it for now.
Vote Ike
I have an odd feeling the wolves are trying to frame me. The last two hunts are classic me. There's no one else who would generally make those hunts, except for EURO. If so, and I'm not just being paranoid, I'll be prepared for whenever the wolves attempt to throw me under the bus. I'm watching.
We have got a pretty good set-up though. Mostly active players left, already a lot of mostly ephemeral and unsubstantial cases flying around.
We have got a pretty good set-up though. Mostly active players left, already a lot of mostly ephemeral and unsubstantial cases flying around.
This is a huge and strange past. You sound like you're on amphetamines. Not that there's a problem with that, but I don't think you actually are. But do use paragraphs. This stream of consciuosness thing makes you sound panicky, and it's not quite late enough in the day for a villager to be worried about that.