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Gen. Skobelev

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Now you are simply being ridiculous.

What, lawyers can be ridiculous? Who would have thought!
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It's less about what's compelling about Wagon's case and more about what's not compelling about the other cases. Jackson's votes come almost exclusively from the holy purpose outlined above; self-improvement. I respect these votes, but they have no bearing on Jackson's actual role. marty's votes are votes probing for reactions. Wagon, however, is acting at least slightly suspicious, with his idealogically sound but almost certainly useless vote on Aedan, which villager ought to know would amount to nothing. I find this to make Wagon slightly more likely to be hairy than Jackson or marty, and I'm going to use my vote to find wolves, not probe other players. I'll leave the probing to y'all.

So EURO casting an "ideological" vote is okay but Wagon doing the same is somehow wolfish? I'm also unsure how you would consider probing other players with a vote "not finding wolves". In fact that sounds pretty much like you're trying too hard to look useful.
 

Jacksonian Missionary

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Of course Rovsea attacking Wagonlitz for his vote seems oddish. Jacksonian at least seems to have genuine dislike of/ongoing feud with Wagonlitz which might explain his vote a bit.
Objection your honor, unless there is something blatant, I never vote my fist vote on day 1 with a real purpose. Usually I switch by the end of the day. Regardless, my vote on him is simply for ridiculous reasons, no feud.
 

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Vote Marty99

For trying to revenge vote me from years past in an attempt at redeeming his wolffish ways ;)
I didn't try, voting is not really something you 'try' at. It's very much a 'do or do not' thing. I said I could. Interesting watching the votes stacking up on different people though, including myself.
 

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Or any villager who played in the last game for NOT F***ING LYNCHING CODY.

All these flavors to choose from, and you choose to be salty.

GM is currently sick as hell, he may be a little slow with vote counts.
 

Gen. Skobelev

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Objection your honor, unless there is something blatant, I never vote my fist vote on day 1 with a real purpose. Usually I switch by the end of the day. Regardless, my vote on him is simply for ridiculous reasons, no feud.

Fair enough. Though if the first vote is with no real purpose to get the vote target lynched I would say it doesn't lessen the possibility of voting packmate, now would it?


I didn't try, voting is not really something you 'try' at. It's very much a 'do or do not' thing. I said I could. Interesting watching the votes stacking up on different people though, including myself.

Then again, votes haven't really consolidated much as the voting is pretty spread out.
 

Gen. Skobelev

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Jacksonian Missionary: 3
deathbytwombat [132]
EUROO7 [140 Rovsea -> 151]
Emperor Ike [185]

Wagonlitz: 2
Audren [156]
Jacksonian Missionary [160]

marty99: 2
tamius23 [157]
RepBentley [202]

Rovsea: 1
aedan777 [127]

aedan777: 1
Wagonlitz [129]

Gen. Skobelev: 1
Gen. Marshall [158]

RepBentley: 1
Spockyt [184]

tamius23: 1
marty99 [186]

Emperor Ike: 1
Gen. Skobelev [187]

Audren: 1
Rovsea [128 marty99 -> 200]


not voted: 2
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EUROO7

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That sounds awfully much like a deliberate change in wolf tactics.

I wonder if it is. I haven't checked to see what my role is yet.

Jackson's votes come almost exclusively from the holy purpose outlined above; self-improvement. I respect these votes, but they have no bearing on Jackson's actual role.

I'll have to disagree with you here, Audren. I vote Jackson because he isn't helping the village, and when given the opportunity, he refused.

Again, very confused with how just because I didn't jokingly name a pack pre game means I'm not trying to improve hard enough set by some weird Euro standard.

It's an indicator, Jackson. We have little to no information at the moment. Your intransigence is preventing you from aiding the village, which is in the best interests of the parisitic pack infecting us.

How is this not a good reason to vote someone?

So EURO casting an "ideological" vote is okay but Wagon doing the same is somehow wolfish? I'm also unsure how you would consider probing other players with a vote "not finding wolves". In fact that sounds pretty much like you're trying too hard to look useful.

My ideological vote has supporters. If more people see it fit to lynch aedan on day 1, they will vote him. I don't see what the issue here is.
 

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It sounds to me like a sense of holy purpose, a duty I can respect.



It's less about what's compelling about Wagon's case and more about what's not compelling about the other cases. Jackson's votes come almost exclusively from the holy purpose outlined above; self-improvement. I respect these votes, but they have no bearing on Jackson's actual role. marty's votes are votes probing for reactions. Wagon, however, is acting at least slightly suspicious, with his idealogically sound but almost certainly useless vote on Aedan, which villager ought to know would amount to nothing. I find this to make Wagon slightly more likely to be hairy than Jackson or marty, and I'm going to use my vote to find wolves, not probe other players. I'll leave the probing to y'all.

I don't at all agree that Wagon's vote was any more or less useless than the votes in direct vicinity to it, especially Aedan's vote. If the vote is idealogically sound, would it then not be quite possible for it to attract additional followers on a quest to eradicate random voting methods?
 

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I don't at all agree that Wagon's vote was any more or less useless than the votes in direct vicinity to it, especially Aedan's vote. If the vote is idealogically sound, would it then not be quite possible for it to attract additional followers on a quest to eradicate random voting methods?
Precisely. If villagers feel inclined to trust and agree with Wagonlitz, they will vote alongside him. If they don't, they won't. Simple as that.
 

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Precisely. If villagers feel inclined to trust and agree with Wagonlitz, they will vote alongside him. If they don't, they won't. Simple as that.
Splendid. Now, I personally don't particularly care for Wagonlitz' ideological reasons. I do however care about poor reasoning.

Vote Audren
 

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It's an indicator, Jackson. We have little to no information at the moment. Your intransigence is preventing you from aiding the village, which is in the best interests of the parisitic pack infecting us.

How is this not a good reason to vote someone?
I fail to see how me blindly naming a pack when the only info I have is that I'm not a wolf is considered useful to the village. Especially when 75% of the people in this game didn't either.
 

Gen. Skobelev

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Precisely. If villagers feel inclined to trust and agree with Wagonlitz, they will vote alongside him. If they don't, they won't. Simple as that.

And of course that tells more about how people view Wagonlitz (and aedan), not if people are for or against such voting methods. (isn't it nice being lawyer and getting paid for sprouting stuff like that?)

I fail to see how me blindly naming a pack when the only info I have is that I'm not a wolf is considered useful to the village. Especially when 75% of the people in this game didn't either.

Perhaps because you fudged about it when you got pressed?
 

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Perhaps because you fudged about it when you got pressed?
Its more frustration that I'm in the lead because "I'm not trying to improve" or water crap Euro is saying.
 

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Because his big is going to get more players than mine, which is unacceptable :mad:
You should have send more invitations then.
Good morning.


Vote RepBentley.

For being less active then me today, and I've only just woken up.
Join the big.
Jacksonian at least seems to have genuine dislike of/ongoing feud with Wagonlitz which might explain his vote a bit.
As far as I have understood that one sided feud is over now.
So EURO casting an "ideological" vote is okay but Wagon doing the same is somehow wolfish? I'm also unsure how you would consider probing other players with a vote "not finding wolves". In fact that sounds pretty much like you're trying too hard to look useful.
This.
 

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GM VOTECOUNT/"Put Gen. Skobelev out of a job" ~ six hours to deadline

Jacksonian Missionary: 3
deathbytwombat [132]
EUROO7 [140 Rovsea -> 151]
Emperor Ike [185]

Wagonlitz: 2
Audren [156]
Jacksonian Missionary [160]

marty99: 2
tamius23 [157]
RepBentley [202]

Audren: 2
Rovsea [128 marty99 -> 200]
Najs [212]

Rovsea: 1
aedan777 [127]

aedan777: 1
Wagonlitz [129]

Gen. Skobelev: 1
Gen. Marshall [158]

RepBentley: 1
Spockyt [184]

tamius23: 1
marty99 [186]

Emperor Ike: 1
Gen. Skobelev [187]


not voted: 1
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Jacksonian Missionary

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Is this the part of day where I put on a Caesar like panic because I'm in the lead?