Haha
The wolves, they're beating us. We don't win anymore. I gotta tell you I do great business with the wolves, I got great relations with the wolves. But they're making idiots out of us.
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The wolves, they're beating us. We don't win anymore. I gotta tell you I do great business with the wolves, I got great relations with the wolves. But they're making idiots out of us.
Hmph, I'm now convinced that Jackson is not in fact, a wolf and that my previous opinion was ill-informed, who it is instead I am not sure of, however.
I suppose I'm expected to defend myself.
Your case doesn't have particularly much in the way of details to comment in, being fairly vague.
I'll begin by noting that you are correct that my outcry against Jackson was more driven by frustration than it was logic, and it was foolish of me.
I would like to point that, on the contrary of what you had said, that lynching Marshall would have gained us a lot of information, I had written an analysis, which I assumed that people had read, which apparently as it turns out it didn't. I ask that you read what I wrote about that.
I should have clearly kept the previous message.
On the day I said he was a viable candidate, he was a viable candidate.
On the day I didn't want his lynching, new information meant that someone else was the much better candidate.
It's like how Castle Walls were a good defensive measure in Medieval times, but stopped being good defensive measures when artillery became well-developed.
That's how time and changing circumstances work.
I've never thought I would have explain how time works when playing Werewolf.
I already told you to read it didn't I? Do I have to tell people multiple times?
I suppose I'm expected to defend myself.
Your case doesn't have particularly much in the way of details to comment in, being fairly vague.
I'll begin by noting that you are correct that my outcry against Jackson was more driven by frustration than it was logic, and it was foolish of me.
I would like to point that, on the contrary of what you had said, that lynching Marshall would have gained us a lot of information, I had written an analysis, which I assumed that people had read, which apparently as it turns out it didn't. I ask that you read what I wrote about that.
I should have clearly kept the previous message.
On the day I said he was a viable candidate, he was a viable candidate.
On the day I didn't want his lynching, new information meant that someone else was the much better candidate.
It's like how Castle Walls were a good defensive measure in Medieval times, but stopped being good defensive measures when artillery became well-developed.
That's how time and changing circumstances work.
I've never thought I would have explain how time works when playing Werewolf.
I already told you to read it didn't I? Do I have to tell people multiple times?
Judging by your previous comments you hadn't read it, I suggest you actually read what my case was before dismissing it.
I read it previously, and as I told you at the time, you are wrong. Marshall is a likely villager, and if we lynch him and find him a villager, we learn very little. Spockyt on the other hand was a likely wolf with a good case against him, and thus a better lynch. Your entire post you link to only mentions information learned about other players if Marshall is lynched and found to be a wolf, which was not a likely occurrence. Marshall doesn't fit with the wolves we've lynched so far; lynches need to be made based on who is a likely wolf, not who would make the easiest game if they are a wolf.
Edit: You are still voting Jacksonian, despite admitting it wasn't a vote backed by logic.
I admit, this was daft of me.
Because at the time, he was making throwaways and flying under the radar, and I didn't have any good leads except on Cody. At the time, he would've been fine as a lynch target, but was superseded by better targets latter.
Day one ties to be broken nearer to deadlines are a common practice I thought, or has this changed recently and I'm not aware of it?
I'm not even sure what you're arguing here.
Are you arguing that I was part of a wolfish plot and actually mentioned to everyone that there was a wolfish plot? If I were a wolf, why would I do that?
For that matter, why would I specifically draw attention to another wolf if I was one? That seems unwise.
Why would I then specifically implicate a packmate of mine in a plot where it is possible to check who carried it out by looking at the votepage?
I'm not very good at Werewolf Marshall, but these don't seem to be the kinds of things I would do, nor can I think of anyone who would.
Oh right, that's actually hilarious
I could buy this, but again, I only saw posts saying you think he was a good target, and no complaints when he was being run up. You can't turn around and call us all idiots when you wanted to lynch a probable villager when we learn that Spockyt was a villager. It's not a concept of time it's a concept of reading your posts and finding contradictions. How could we know you suddenly disapproved? There isn't any post about it.
Your "case" on me was nothing more than anger fueled bullshit because I didn't lynch Marshall, and somehow that means I'm a wolf. I understoof it perfectly and dismissed it as such
lazy vote count
Hazbot 3:
Aedan
Euro
Avatar
Euro 3:
Hazbot
Gen Marshall
Health
Health 1:
Tamius
Avatar 1:
Jackson
I would like this tie, therefore I will not meddle with it
Hazbot 3:
Aedan
Euro
Avatar
Euro 3:
Hazbot
Gen Marshall
Health
Health 1:
Tamius
Avatar 1:
Jackson
I would like this tie, therefore I will not meddle with it
Hm, yes, though a 4-3-3 count is in no way less "interesting" than a 4-4-3 count.
Well, if there's a case on Wagonlitz and you interpret it as a case on Cody, who then happens to be a wolf as well, then that's suspicious. As a wolf you know who's guilty and who's not so it's easy to misinterpret what villagers (who have a different outlook on things) are getting at. That's how most of these mistakes happen.
I swapped on post 408.
No I didn't mean the case on you, I meant the case for lynching Marshall, which now, I'm convinced was stupid too.
Again, now, I feel the need to apologize, to you, to Marshall, and to the village for being such a dummy.
The case doesn't really matter now, I realise that it was stupid, my outburst at you was stupid, and above all I was really stupid.
Maybe it's my foul mood, maybe it's something else, or maybe I've always been a big dummy but I've said some pretty dumb things here.
In any case, that doesn't really change the fact that those things I said were dumb, nor does that make them any less dumb now that I agree that they're dumb to.
Basically what I'm saying is that I realise myself now that I don't have much of a defence, nor am I willing to continue defend myself and thereby continue myself looking like a fool.
At this point, all I can do is claim to be a profusely foolish and moronic villager who up to this point did not realise they were profusely stupid and moronic and did a profusely stupid and moronic thing not realising that it was stupid and moronic.
I would complain about the late updates but I feel like I'm not in the best position to do that regarding my last GMed game
Official Votecount, Day 5
EUROO7: 3
Gen. Marshall [393]
Health [395]
Hazbot [396 EUROO7 -> 402 Jacksonian Missionary -> 408]
Hazbot: 3
aedan777 [406]
EUROO7 [407]
AvatarOfKhaine [419]
AvatarOfKhaine: 1
Jacksonian Missionary [387]
Health: 1
tamius23 [400]
EUROO7: 3
Gen. Marshall [393]
Health [395]
Hazbot [396 EUROO7 -> 402 Jacksonian Missionary -> 408]
Hazbot: 3
aedan777 [406]
EUROO7 [407]
AvatarOfKhaine [419]
AvatarOfKhaine: 1
Jacksonian Missionary [387]
Health: 1
tamius23 [400]
Day Five
Today is a good day to TIE... for real this time! Consumed by your love for Lemeard (Praise Be Unto Him), you decide that not one, but two must die if you wish to root out the spies. First you storm the quarters of EUROO7 and drag him out to face mob justice. A wise man once said that the shrubbery of justice must be watered from time to time with the blood of villagers; you choose to interpret these words rather literally, and the poor Resistance member EUROO7 is thrown into Wagonlitz's blender, turned to liquid, and poured over the soil of the nearest bush. After disposing of one target, you find Hazbot and unceremoniously beat him to death with clubs. Too bad Hazbot was just another member of the Resistance.Night Five
As you cry yourselves to sleep, you suddenly hear a terrifying scream. Awake, you rush to the source of the noise. You stumble across the body of Gen. Marshall, the Resistance member, who has been wrapped in a Belgian flag and set on fire.EUROO7 the villager is lynched
Hazbot the villager is lynched
Gen. Marshall the villager is hunted
Well then. Good luck!
Oh and @Wagonlitz , you probably owe me some thanks for being the most valuable pack member this game
Oh and @Wagonlitz , you probably owe me some thanks for being the most valuable pack member this game
Rightfully got lynched there, I think I should look into getting a WW coach or something.
