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Well I will probably be hunted tonight for this, but it has to be done and enough of the day has gone to make sure there has been the amble possibility for people to expose themself in this matter.
So you just falsely claimed being a JL member.
Also do people really play RL WW with tasers?
Unvote Lemeard
Vote DutchGuy
Bogus. If the seer contacted you a few minutes before deadline, he wouldn't state you a villager. To state you a villager you would need to have been scanned which you weren't. I was. I will post all JL correspondence as proof of my claim in another post to not bloat this too much.
So you just falsely claimed being a JL member.
I doubt he did. He didn't mention anything about it and I instructed him to be ready to snipe---in the end that wasn't possible, but we were prepared. He of course could have contacted other people, but I doubt it---and he most certainly wouldn't state them as villagers.
I was pretty disillusionised last night, since when marty was a wolf last game he could make a vote swing to save himself without trouble, but when I tried to have a vote swing in order to save the seer people just counter swinged or even jumped on the seer. So I was more accusatory than I should have been, but I was really frustrated. Of course guys couldn't know he was the seer.
I was pretty frustrated and disillusioned after failing to save the seer.
A fair enough reason not to want you lynched on day 1; just like how marty, tonka and I didn't want kaetje killed a few games ago.
You could subscribe to the new game threads; that way you will always know when a new game starts.
He claimed to be, but he isn't.
It indeed looks like he is trying to make himself look innocent and unimportant. He might be it, but there has been too much confusion to save him now.
Also do people really play RL WW with tasers?
Indeed you did; that doesn't mean you are a villager. It actually makes you more likely a wolf than not, but I guess a villager could make such a claim. It is detrimental to the village though, since now you will be a subject for days and if you are a villager that could prevent the village from lynching wolves. If you are a wolf you need to be lynched immediately. So for falsely claiming JL and playing a huge part in leksu's lynch and almost creating a TIE, when the logical self defence move would have been to vote Arkasas.
Unvote Lemeard
Vote DutchGuy
Vote Dutchguy
He's not even trying. Keeping him around will only hurt us later, wolf or no. Not to mention he's also the most likely wolf from our information.
He's not even trying. Keeping him around will only hurt us later, wolf or no. Not to mention he's also the most likely wolf from our information.
Here is the JL correspondence, so you can see I am telling the truth.
The scan order that only I ended up seeing, since LK had a full inbox until after deadline perhaps even after the update:
And this is the last PM sent 15 minutes to deadline.
leksu said:
The scan order that only I ended up seeing, since LK had a full inbox until after deadline perhaps even after the update:
leksu said:
Wagonlitz said:
And this is the last PM sent 15 minutes to deadline.
Wagonlitz said:
Also sorry LK for spamming you e--mail inbox with e--mails telling you that you have a full inbox and I tried to send something; I watched you inbox regularly until deadline so that I could PM leksu immediately when it cleared in case he didn't try again.
Does it concern anymore that dutchguy is being bandwagoned? Also DutchGuy seriously if this is how you play we want none of this.... Defend yourself, I mean this is bloody stupid.... if we were playing for money with tasers you would be the first person to say, no I do not want to do i, grow up and man up, man! This is a game for man! And women not for 12 year old kids!
See I mean you would chicken out as well.... this is rather sad, this game needs a) age verification, b)location verification, and people who are really interested in playing not hiding behind an ISP, which is only leads to trolling.... How I wish we could find out who the trolls are and ship them off to an island.... let see how funny they can be when they actually have to take decisions......
Yeah, that's why I'm hesitant to vote him. I'd wager there's a wolf or two lurking in that pile o'votes.
The bandwagon isn't that concerning, since wolf or not, no one would really be interested in defending him, considering his 'defense'.
No worries. I deserved getting 30 e-mails for not clearing out my inbox (which I regularly do, I guess I was just preoccupied
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No, I'm saying that no one would really try to save him, and he's made himself a fine lynch. So him getting bandwagoned so easily doesn't speak against the possibility that he's a wolf. And other games have shown that letting villagers who aren't competent and involved surviving to the endgame is dangerous. He remains the best candidate for being a wolf, but even if he isn't, it's in our best interest to be rid of him.
There's something odd about this statement but I can't think of how I would put it in words.
You forgot to say that we're all backstabbing hypocritical bastards who take joy in the suffering of others.
No, that'd be the diplomacy players.
I believe Wagonlitz. I disagree with his case against DutchGuy. Wagonlitz, consider the fact that this is a noob we're dealing with. You should have enough experience to see a desperate noob when he presents himself with the grace and determination DutchGuy has shown.
AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WAGON AND DUTCH ARE CONFIRMED AND VERY LIKELY VILLAGER RESPECTIVELY
AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WAGON AND DUTCH ARE CONFIRMED AND VERY LIKELY VILLAGER RESPECTIVELY
I thoughd self defense was a wolfish action, thus not to be done to avoid getting lynched as villager.
His has made himself dirty though, so if he is a wolf I wouldn't be surpriced if they had thrown him under the bus.
I am really interested in playing the game.
How is it wasting a day? It would have been if I had posted the JL correspondence shortly after DG made his claim last night.
You have a point that he has acted like a new unexperienced villager, though he could also be an unexperienced wolf. The problem with letting him live is that he will keep being run up with is detrimental to the village.
If he isn't lynched then Lemeard and Rovsea are the main suspects. Rovsea's shenanigans could just as well be explained by inexperience though. With regard to Lemeard he did try to TIE which does fit his reputation; but---I was told by a vet some games ago that Lemeard actually isn't as crazy as his reputation and it is very detrimental to TIE on day 1, which he normally doesn't try to do. If DG isn't run up I therefore think we should investigate why Lemeard thought yesterday was a good day to TIE.
I'll believe Wagon's case for being scanned and part of the JL.
That's one less suspect.
I'd love to see one of the DG voters lynched today. (today's DG voters)
That's one less suspect.
I'd love to see one of the DG voters lynched today. (today's DG voters)
So who do you propose? I also get that "desperate villager" vibe off of DutchGuy, but I don't want him being run up tomorrow even though we save him today. With the seer dead, we can't afford to waste any time. On the other hand, we shouldn't panic just yet, we still have more than 4 hours till deadline.
Honestly, right now we should be looking at all of the quiet players, who haven't put forward anything despite the Dutchguy situation or the Seer's death.