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Doubt it unless they also abuse children there. (Haven't seen GoT, but I really doubt it.)
(pj asked alxeu for nude photos of alxeu's little sister; alxeu is around your age Aziz... That was what made me get in favour of having him banned.)

What the actual fuck.
 

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pjnlsn, AKA the vowelless wonder, was the worst thing to ever happen. It's best to just forget about him.
 

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I really hate how being a witness is basically "Live 10 nights and get a free wolf!" What do people think of this as an alternate rule?

Witness: Once per game may submit a list of n (probably the number of starting wolves in a pack) players, he will learn if any of the listed players hunted that night.
 

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I really hate how being a witness is basically "Live 10 nights and get a free wolf!" What do people think of this as an alternate rule?
Could be viable. There also are the alternative witness rules used lately where witness can be used multiple times, but the chance resets for each use. So you can witness every night at a really low chance or say every third or fourth night at a decent chance.
 

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+Agree. The US did quite a few overly-obsessed-with-Moscow things, like our opposition to Allende and to Mosadeq and even Chavez and that Guatemalam thing, and our whole sponsoring capitalist dictators everywhere. Kennan's perception of Communist parties was more than a small amount problematic (and his inclusion of the Orthodox Church quite ironic).

However, Nixon's opening to China was a step forward in that respect — despite the fact that the PRC was more staunchly Stalinist than the USSR was. I need to get working on my actual project now :(
 

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What?

PM ought to be banned. We should communicate by means of smokesignal or telepathy.
 

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When quoting private messages while posting in a thread, I think a new rule should be implemented: the convMessage and member number should be deleted.
Why? It can easily be forged. The member number is publicly available if you go to that persons userpage or hover over his avatar; you are number 98325 for instance. And the convMessage number can be easily forged too; after all people who aren't part of that PM won't be able to see it, so just write some number, so the link would break no matter whether or not it was a legit PM or a fake one. For instance here is a real one from EURO this game.

Right, I've established contact with the cultists, independently. We should give them as little information as possible to protect the pack.

Sander is brutal and leader, I've asked him to set his brutal on kaisersosho.
Bagricula is assassin

I'll work on a hunt order soon enough.

And here is one 'you sent' to me while phishing.

I am the police detective and has been enrolled in the JL. I know that you have been seer scanned last night. Beware!
 

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Why? It can easily be forged. The member number is publicly available if you go to that persons userpage or hover over his avatar; you are number 98325 for instance. And the convMessage number can be easily forged too; after all people who aren't part of that PM won't be able to see it, so just write some number, so the link would break no matter whether or not it was a legit PM or a fake one. For instance here is a real one from EURO this game.

It probably isn't just some number. I would presume conversation numbers to be given in a chronological order. Therefore, someone that started a conversation every day can look at the conversation number of a claimed conversation, the time it was claimed to have started, and verify for correctness.
 

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It probably isn't just some number. I would presume conversation numbers to be given in a chronological order. Therefore, someone that started a conversation every day can look at the conversation number of a claimed conversation, the time it was claimed to have started, and verify for correctness.

This. While the member number is easy to find, the conversation number could have some meaning that would make forged PMs easy to spot.
 

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It probably isn't just some number. I would presume conversation numbers to be given in a chronological order. Therefore, someone that started a conversation every day can look at the conversation number of a claimed conversation, the time it was claimed to have started, and verify for correctness.

Maybe I'm slow, but I still don't see why this would be a problem.
 

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It probably isn't just some number. I would presume conversation numbers to be given in a chronological order. Therefore, someone that started a conversation every day can look at the conversation number of a claimed conversation, the time it was claimed to have started, and verify for correctness.
I seriously don't think anybody is going to start a new conversation each day. Alternatively you can start a new conversation when you make the fake PM, look at its PM number and compare it to the PM number of e.g. your role PM or some other PM which is earlier to where the fake PM chain is claimed to have started. Than just make an assumption of linear growth in the PM number and you are golden; if you want to be more fancy you can take into account something like weekends, but I have no idea whether or not the amount of newly started PM chains is larger or smaller in weekends.
 

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I seriously don't think anybody is going to start a new conversation each day. Alternatively you can start a new conversation when you make the fake PM, look at its PM number and compare it to the PM number of e.g. your role PM or some other PM which is earlier to where the fake PM chain is claimed to have started. Than just make an assumption of linear growth in the PM number and you are golden; if you want to be more fancy you can take into account something like weekends, but I have no idea whether or not the amount of newly started PM chains is larger or smaller in weekends.


You could go through the same amount of effort to forge a screenshot of a PM, yet screenshots are banned. Most people will not go through such effort to forge a PM, so if we see a screenshot, we know it probably is real. Same with the numbers: no one is going to do what you wrote to forge a PM. Just not allowing the conversation number in the PM quote would make it easier.
 

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PM numbers are given for each individual reply to a conversation; not each started conversation...

Look at these two replies in the same conversation I quoted that EURO PM above from. Two different PM numbers and the above EURO quote has a different number too. These two PMs came right after each other in the conversation, but in time they are separated by two days. So the PM number is useless to detect fake PMs from a good faker; sure somebody bad at faking PMs can get caught, but that is no different from the earlier PM system.

Hunt Cliges
So I'm defaulting to your standing order, which means you just hunted mire17.

Spoiler alert: it's not very effective.
 

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PM numbers are given for each individual reply to a conversation; not each started conversation...

Look at these two replies in the same conversation I quoted that EURO PM above from. Two different PM numbers and the above EURO quote has a different number too. These two PMs came right after each other in the conversation, but in time they are separated by two days. So the PM number is useless to detect fake PMs from a good faker; sure somebody bad at faking PMs can get caught, but that is no different from the earlier PM system.

Actually that means even more work. You have to fake a plausible ID for every message you fake. And forgery is more easily detected as others can look at the ID of all of their messages sent/received.