Yes, I think most people except OY agree that we should not bother the admins unless absolutely necessary.
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I don't have much to add, as I think everything has been said already, let me just say I agree in principle with the ban proposals and sign up to COWZ
I don't think a mini-mod for this forum would be necessary though, definitely not so so soon after a warning by Blade!, we are still officially in a trial phase for this forum after all
I don't think a mini-mod for this forum would be necessary though, definitely not so so soon after a warning by Blade!, we are still officially in a trial phase for this forum after all
A mini mod was ruled out at the start of this forum, and I can't see the policy being changed. It shouldn't be requested either in my view. If anything needs mod action then it violates the global forum rules, and Blade! will act. However, as this subforum is a trial one, and WW doesn't relate to Paradox's business we should avoid any need for mod action. That is why we have to self-police. If players know that if they behave badly (excessive swearing and insulting of other players, rule violations etc) they will be hanged, autolynched/subbed and or banned they won't do it.
Is it just me that doesn't see why taking a stress or time-sink off of Blade! and leaving it to someone that is always here and always knows exactly what is going on isn't a good thing?
It isn't that it is troubled, it is that we can quickly enforce our own rules if quick action is needed.
There is no need for admins to step in and do anything, just a suggestion for a player/mod.
Also, am I the only one that doesn't see a mod/player as still us policing ourselves? Also, why was it ruled out when the sub-forum was created?
We wouldn't annoy Blade! for anything that would require mod powers to do.
It isn't that it is troubled, it is that we can quickly enforce our own rules if quick action is needed.
There is no need for admins to step in and do anything, just a suggestion for a player/mod.
Also, am I the only one that doesn't see a mod/player as still us policing ourselves? Also, why was it ruled out when the sub-forum was created?
We wouldn't annoy Blade! for anything that would require mod powers to do.
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How about you leave the discussion to people who will actually discuss things, and take your childishness elsewhere? Hmm?
I find it funny that no one can explain why the idea is "retarded", and they simply focus on not wanting to bother the admins with proposing it in the first place. jonti gave a hint of a reason, but has yet replied as to what that reason was that it was ruled out when the sub-forum was created.
My point is that our power is not real. We can't really ban people from posting in threads, although we can ban them from playing in games. If a lifetime ban were instituted, (or any ban) then we'd need ways to deal with that person and keep him from posting at all in that game(s). We can't do that as simple forumites, we'd need mod power. My proposal would simply give us that power, while taking away some of that responsibility from Blade! so he can work on more important things, and we'd still be policing ourselves.
Yes, if only someone had explained.
You simply proved my point. Those are mostly posts about how we might draw more attention and/or get shut down if we asked for our own self-policing mod. They don't explain how the idea itself is bad, just discuss how getting it to happen might take work.
Slinky there gives the best argument. To him I'd say that our purposes for a ban woulldn't exactly be breaking the forum rules, just ours. Therefore, we'd need special reasons to ban him from accessing our games and ruining them (as a person like Hax seems to do continuously), that isn't there in the forum rules for the rest of the board.
Remember that actual use of power would be very rare. Just as rare as these rules are broken. I say this would actually make us less noticeable, not more.
If the power is going to be so rare, why create a different position to take care of it?
Simply so that we wouldn't need to call in Blade! (and thus get noticed) when we need to exercise the enforcement of our most important rules.
We don't need to ban a person from the forum (I doubt that's possible anyway) for us to enforce the rules. He just won't be given a role.
You are overcomplicating the enforcement of the rules.
Then what will we do when a person does things like Hax is doing and continually bothers the threads posting more, supposedly, secret information? We can't simply ban him from posting right now. We'd need something stronger.
If he's not given a role, he has no secret information. If he spams, we can report him to Blade!