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esemesas

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I think that we should take a look at the throwaway votes, and the people who came in and bandwagoned j_L late, particularly Snoopdogg. Throwaway's dont include Walrus, who was an obvious competitor in the running, but those who voted Esemesas, TNT, Tamius, etc. Slinky's vote on TNT is an obvious throwaway and comes quite late in the day, so why not just bandwagon j_L? And snoopdogg's voteswitch to j_L is strange, one could argue that he was trying to avoid a tie, but honestly, who would tie so early in the game? My suspicion is that Walrus is a packmate and he was trying to ensure that Walrus didn't get lynched.

Vote Snoopdogg

In these cases, it's better to lynch the saved, rather than the savior.

Vote walrus
 

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In these cases, it's better to lynch the saved, rather than the savior.

Vote walrus

I dont understand your reasoning. If thats the case, then it's incredibely easy for a wolf to attempt to incriminate a villager with very little repercussions, while its impossible for the saved to be trying to make the savior look guilty.

In fact, I raised the same point as you with I believe it was joeb, in a previous game, and was told the same thing.
 

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Official Counting of the Count - 5h50 to deadline:

Votecount:
Snoopdogg 3 – Tamius [183], Taiisatai64 [193], Bagricula [200]
Capt. Kiwi 2 – Snoopdogg [188], the_hdk [191]
Vainglory 2 – Slinky [192], Randakar [197]
Walrus 2 – TNT [195], esemesas [201]
Slinky 2 – Boris ze Spider [203], Johho888 [204]
Taiisatai64 1 – Yakman [184]
the_hdk 1 – Reis91 [194]

Not voted: Walrus, Capt. Kiwi, Vainglory, Kingepyon, Eternaly_Lost, theFreeman.

Sub is needed for Walrus - PM sent to Marty as first choice, any lurkers or j-l interested in subbing as well?
 

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I shall sub, though I do not yet know my role.

Vote Snoopdogg

Self-preservation is the only reason for a vote I can use right now.
 

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GM Announcement!

Walrus will be subbed by Marty99

Role PM inc.
 

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I don't find any of the current candidates particularly appealing, would anyone want to follow me in a switch to someone else?
 

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I don't find any of the current candidates particularly appealing, would anyone want to follow me in a switch to someone else?

I, good sir, could use an AOK style switch right now. May I propose Kingepyon the non-voter?

Unvote walrus/marty
Vote Kingepyon
 

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Vote slinky

Throw away votes are always troublesome later. That and I need to defend myself without blatantly bandwagoning snoop as good analysis is hard to come by from a bandwagon.
 

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Seing that walrus' inactivity is no longer a problem, let's see what this does.

unvote walrus, vote Kingepyon
 

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In these cases, it's better to lynch the saved, rather than the savior.

Vote walrus
There is so many things with just voting the one that got away that I don't know where to start.

First of all, if a wolf is not run up at all, then any wolf would be happy to jump on it. Same thing applies in the likely case that there is two or more packs (namely Joebthegreat was in contact with a wolf pack and they did not decide to hunt him.) Then the wolfs from the other pack, even if we got a wolf would jump on it.

This makes it easy for wolfs to hide, as you find wolfs and packs from voting records by putting pressure on different people and seeing how the votes react.

Throwing all the pressure on someone a second time, does not tell us more infomation unless we know for certain that he is a wolf that managed to escape. But given that we are going for the Saved and not the Savior, you don't think that. You want to know what the Savior was doing by what role the Saved was.

What if the Saved was the Seer who had to contact his first scan to save him? It does happen and all you could be doing is making things worse for us.

Vote esemesas

Not going to hop on the Kingepyon train. I think that esemesas is a much better lynch due to the reasoning he gave for his vote.
 

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seriously.