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So you're the sorcerer's apprentice, then?
Shouldn't drxav's Seerish scan or whoever's Priestly scan on Capt. Kiwi detect an apprentice even if he was unclaimed at the time?
EDIT: Checked the rules and yes, they would. So in the unlikely event that Kiwi turns out an apprentice you have found two liars.

I fear lynching Kiwi means getting a brutal trait tossed at Najs, King.
That being said, I don't know if we have any alternative. What pack hunts tonight? Anyone know?
Well, Falc the English got eaten last night so I'd imagine it's the English that hunt tonight. We could lynch the sorcerer first but that would only delay the brutal effect for one day. Would that make any difference?

If I understand Kiwi's talk about drxav being supposed to hunt Bagricula right then Kiwi must be English and drxav is Dutch (or at least Kiwi thinks he is Dutch).

I agree, why Bagricula? But then again the wolves have had strange hunt target for most of the game. Except for reis91.
 

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A conversation with drxav:

google chat said:
Xavier: so Randy
what's your opinion
in all neutrality


Floris: My opinion? Haven't made up my mind yet.
Problem is that I don't quite know what Kiwi is, if he's bad. A sorcerers' appretice? A turned wolf?
Those are basically the only 2 options here, I think
but why, then is Boris so eager to vote Kiwi?
Unless Bagricula is lying about his scan on Boris, that is ..


Xavier: Kiwi's gonna take advantage of the big stunt i pulled on you to scare people off


Floris: I don't know, but I really have to go now. Be back in about 2 hours. Maybe 3.


Xavier: i won't be backl until deadline


Verzonden om 13:44 op vrijdag.
Xavier: i didn't see that one coming


Floris: Kiwi striking back at you?


Xavier: yeah


Floris: Why wouldn't he?


Xavier: he's pretty much doomed


Floris: The lynch result will tell us what the truth is concerning you. So I don't think you need to fear tonight


Xavier: I'm pretty much doomed as well


Floris: Do you know what pack hunts tonight?


Xavier: yes
the English pack


Floris: Kiwi?


Xavier: think about it
who died yesterday?


Floris: Falc .. yellow
Not sure what pack yellow is :p


Xavier: English
that kiwi bastard caught me good
next time i'll read the rules


Floris: hehe, that helps doesn't it? :p


Xavier: indeed


Floris: Well, at least this has been one hell of a game, drxav


Xavier: it has


Floris: too bad King didn't follow my urgings to scan you 3 days ago .. :p


Xavier: how long would i have survived?


Floris: If kiwi dies and turns out to be a wolf? Not long


Xavier: why not?
i mean
here's the thing
i had a sorcerous power scan
i scanned him
and got villager as a result


Floris: heh, that doesn't scan for wolves, does it?


Xavier: i didn't know...


Floris: LOL


Xavier: i fucking didn't know


Floris: oops.


Xavier: yes, oops


Floris: Should have claimed a priestly powers scan :D


Xavier: i couldn't
i needed to make you think i was the one with seerish powers
to deny any other seerish scan
so in my head everything was pretty clear
kiwi was a frickin' turned wolf
it'd have been epic
kiwi turns out a turned wolf, i'm off the shit 75% clear
i manage to hunt another yellow tomorrow
bam


Floris: Well, we all make mistakes. Look at Falc vs Adamus yesterday ..


Xavier: then wait for the end gmae with chaos
i know
that was pretty bad


Floris: You're the last dutchman, aren't you?


Xavier: kiwi claiming i didn't scan him was legit, i was legit claiming i scanned him ---> we couldn't understand each other
then i hunt falc
then falc's reaction : damn kiwi is a wolf
so in my head kiwi is a turned wolf, so out him and come out clean
good old stab inthe back
damn it
next time i'll read the rules
and no i'm not the last one


Floris: Oh. Drat.


Xavier: there were 3 no hunt nights
:D


Floris: Ehm, what?
There were? I counted 2 ..


Xavier: did you count well? am i messing with you? how many wolves does it take to change a lightbulb?
you can out me
i'll leave a message to kiwi for tomorrow


Floris: Yeah, of course. Common courtesy.
:p


Xavier: out me tomorrow though


Floris: Does it still matter?


Xavier: because if you guys are fool enough to go for ties it'll be a bloodbath
yes it will


Floris: Aren't bloodbaths fun?


Xavier: i got one last card in my pocket
and it'll hurt
don't spoil the fun


Floris: Hurt who?


Xavier: the yellows


Floris: Why tonight, though?


Xavier: if you out me today iwon't be able to use it should the village decide to lynch me
i'm off
laters


Floris: Use what? A scan?


Xavier: ush
it's a secret
:)


Floris: A secret I'm not privy too, it seems.

So there. Drxav is also a wolf. Double confirmation here of the story. Drxav won't deny this, I think, though he may be annoyed that I didn't wait with this until tomorrow.
To be honest though, I expect him to expect me to post this regardless of promises. He knows how I tick. I don't sit on this sort of thing as a villager. I never did. So make up your own minds about who to lynch. I'm not opposed to a tie at all, though pulling it off may be tricky...
 
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Well, Falc the English got eaten last night so I'd imagine it's the English that hunt tonight. We could lynch the sorcerer first but that would only delay the brutal effect for one day. Would that make any difference?

It'd make a difference if it means our witness is still alive tomorrow.

If I understand Kiwi's talk about drxav being supposed to hunt Bagricula right then Kiwi must be English and drxav is Dutch (or at least Kiwi thinks he is Dutch).

That is what drxav says, too :)
 

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No, I will not autolynch them this time. But it shouldn't be repeated (also by others).

Drat.
Well, at least it was worth a shot :D
 

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Official Votecount

Capt. Kiwi – 12 – Boris ze Spider [802], Kingepyon [821], drxav [822], Bagricula [823], theFreeman [829], Najs [830], walrus [832], johho888 [833], trespoe [834], enkhuush [836], Rendap [837], jacob-Lundgren[838]
Boris ze Spider – 1 – randakar [798]
drxav – 1 – Capt. Kiwi [782]


Not voted : :)

Missed one vote : Bagricula, theFreeman, drxav
 

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It's quiet in the thread, so time for an announcement.
Starting Sunday Daylight Saving Time will end in most of Europe. Currently 19:00 GMT is 21.00 CEST. However starting this Sunday 19:00 GMT is 20:00 CET.
I will keep the deadline on 19:00 GMT, so starting Sunday for the European players the voting will close one hour earlier then they are used to.
 
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Capt. Kiwi – 12 – Boris ze Spider [802], Kingepyon [821], drxav [822], Bagricula [823], theFreeman [829], Najs [830], walrus [832], johho888 [833], trespoe [834], enkhuush [836], Rendap [837], jacob-Lundgren[838]
Boris ze Spider – 1 – randakar [798]
drxav – 1 – Capt. Kiwi [782]


Not voted : :)

Missed one vote : Bagricula, theFreeman, drxav
 

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Day 7

The English decided to attack the Armada at Gravelines. The English did quite some damage during that attack and the Spanish commanders were wondering how that was possible. Then they discovered an intruder, named Francisco Draque who had given vital information to the English. This problem was quickly solved by hanging Francisco at the mast.

Night 7
Admiral Michiel de Ruyter tried do a surprise attack during the night. Unfortunately his English friend Francisco had given away all the details of that surprise attack. Therefore de Ruyter was intercepted, captured and thrown in a cell, with the keys thrown away.


Capt. Kiwi, the werewolf of the English pack with the sorcerous powers trait was lynched
randakar, the villager with the priestly powers trait was hunted
 

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Looks that way, Aye.

VOTE Drxav
 

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Hunting me? Seriously?
Haven't you guys got better things to do?

Hrm. I really was looking forward to attempting to figure this one out.
Well, good luck village. You're going to have to crack this one without me.
 
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Hunting me? Seriously?
Haven't you guys got better things to do?

Hrm. I really was looking forward to attempting to figure this one out.
Well, good luck village. You're going to have to crack this one without me.

To be honest I expected both you, me and johho at the very least to be dead by now. Announcing substitute JL's shouldn't be this good for your health.

Vote drxav the waffle
 

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Day 7

The English decided to attack the Armada at Gravelines. The English did quite some damage during that attack and the Spanish commanders were wondering how that was possible. Then they discovered an intruder, named Francisco Draque who had given vital information to the English. This problem was quickly solved by hanging Francisco at the mast.

Night 7
Admiral Michiel de Ruyter tried do a surprise attack during the night. Unfortunately his English friend Francisco had given away all the details of that surprise attack. Therefore de Ruyter was intercepted, captured and thrown in a cell, with the keys thrown away.


Capt. Kiwi, the werewolf of the English pack with the sorcerous powers trait was lynched
randakar, the villager with the priestly powers trait was hunted

I need to ask the obvious question.....

If Kiwi was turned would the update say this?

Assuming yes, then

Vote drxav