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A cat also threw up on my bed earlier. Hidden inside of that information is a clue to this game perhaps. :ninja:
Very unprofessional of a Demi Moderator to divulge information that could compromise the integrity of the outcome of this ongoing game of werewolf, Yakob.
...omg
Yakob
Yakman + Jacob = Yakob
Oh, how I missed the mindless reis-wagoning...
I think I will take esemesas's challenge and try to present solid arguments, even if I know, from personal experience, that these are not very effective in stopping reiswagons.
1) Why did I make the tie? Well, it's quite simple from my point of view, looking at how the votes were cast, that at least one of the competitors was somewhat likely to be a wolf. It could have happened that one of the competitors was JL, yes, but given the early death of a few goodie roles, I decided that it would be worth it. And it happened to be, as my vote was crucial to get esemesas killed.
2) I could be a wolf selling out TSP? For what reason, exactly, would I sell out a packmate who, up until then, had garnered no village attention? The only possible case I can think off, playing devil's advocate, was that I would have had the JL infiltrated and found out that they had scanned TSP as a wolf already. Still, even in that case, there would be no reason to do something like that, rather than wait for the village outing. And, as Cliges himself points out later, I would have to know esemesas to be a wolf too, most likely by being in his pack to start off with.
3) Not necessarily so. I wanted to maintain the tie insofar as there could perfectly be a wolf in it, but above all I wanted to get wolves exposed in an attempt to save their packmate. Super Pope here looks quite bad, although I can't rule out him being a villager who broke the cardinal commandment of WW: "Thou shall not mess with the tie (if you have no bloody reason to do it)", which I quoted when I tied things again.
Now, if you say that I did not care which one bit it, well, at the time, I certainly didn't. To actually care, I would have to be fairly certain as to their allegiance, and I was not. I merely played the odds.
Now, Superpope, mind explaining to us what crossed your mind when you broke the tie in favor of citizen?
I think I will take esemesas's challenge and try to present solid arguments, even if I know, from personal experience, that these are not very effective in stopping reiswagons.
1) Why did I make the tie? Well, it's quite simple from my point of view, looking at how the votes were cast, that at least one of the competitors was somewhat likely to be a wolf. It could have happened that one of the competitors was JL, yes, but given the early death of a few goodie roles, I decided that it would be worth it. And it happened to be, as my vote was crucial to get esemesas killed.
2) I could be a wolf selling out TSP? For what reason, exactly, would I sell out a packmate who, up until then, had garnered no village attention? The only possible case I can think off, playing devil's advocate, was that I would have had the JL infiltrated and found out that they had scanned TSP as a wolf already. Still, even in that case, there would be no reason to do something like that, rather than wait for the village outing. And, as Cliges himself points out later, I would have to know esemesas to be a wolf too, most likely by being in his pack to start off with.
3) Not necessarily so. I wanted to maintain the tie insofar as there could perfectly be a wolf in it, but above all I wanted to get wolves exposed in an attempt to save their packmate. Super Pope here looks quite bad, although I can't rule out him being a villager who broke the cardinal commandment of WW: "Thou shall not mess with the tie (if you have no bloody reason to do it)", which I quoted when I tied things again.
Now, if you say that I did not care which one bit it, well, at the time, I certainly didn't. To actually care, I would have to be fairly certain as to their allegiance, and I was not. I merely played the odds.
Now, Superpope, mind explaining to us what crossed your mind when you broke the tie in favor of citizen?
Oh, since I'll have quite a busy day, I'll leave a vote Valhalla's call
Voted Citizen, has a no-vote. Not a bad lynch, imo. Better than lynching reis, for sure.
Voted Citizen, has a no-vote. Not a bad lynch, imo. Better than lynching reis, for sure.
Vote Counting of the colored kind:
Day 1:
Najs (5) - Xarkan, reis, Jack118, walrus, Citizen
SPLIT (4) - Falc, johho, Najs, jpr
jpr (1) - esemesas
Salik (1) - RepBentley
Adamus (1) - Cliges
Cliges (1) - Adamus
esemesas (1) - The Super Pope
Not voted: Valhalla's Call, Salik/Repbently2, THE_SPLIT/Rendap2
Day 2:
walrus (5) - Cliges, RepBentley, Jack118, Falc, Johho
SPLIT/Rendap2 (4) - Adamus, jpr, Valhalla's Call, reis
Citizen (1) - The Super Pope
esemesas (1) - Citizen
Falc (1) - esemesas
Not voted: Salik/Repbently2, SPLIT/Rendap2, walrus
Day 3:
ese (5) - Citizen, johho, jpr123, Cliges, Rendap2
Citizen (5) - ese, Falc, Adamus, Valhalla's Call, The Super Pope
The Super Pope (1) - reis
Not voted: Jack118, RepBentley2
Day 1:
Najs (5) - Xarkan, reis, Jack118, walrus, Citizen
SPLIT (4) - Falc, johho, Najs, jpr
jpr (1) - esemesas
Salik (1) - RepBentley
Adamus (1) - Cliges
Cliges (1) - Adamus
esemesas (1) - The Super Pope
Not voted: Valhalla's Call, Salik/Repbently2, THE_SPLIT/Rendap2
Day 2:
walrus (5) - Cliges, RepBentley, Jack118, Falc, Johho
SPLIT/Rendap2 (4) - Adamus, jpr, Valhalla's Call, reis
Citizen (1) - The Super Pope
esemesas (1) - Citizen
Falc (1) - esemesas
Not voted: Salik/Repbently2, SPLIT/Rendap2, walrus
Day 3:
ese (5) - Citizen, johho, jpr123, Cliges, Rendap2
Citizen (5) - ese, Falc, Adamus, Valhalla's Call, The Super Pope
The Super Pope (1) - reis
Not voted: Jack118, RepBentley2
Tamius - Need a GM clarification here.
You are stating that BLUE Xarkan was a Pack A Third in command wolf and that RED esemesas was a Pack A traitless werewolf.
Were they same pack as stated from Pack A or different from your coloring?
You are stating that BLUE Xarkan was a Pack A Third in command wolf and that RED esemesas was a Pack A traitless werewolf.
Were they same pack as stated from Pack A or different from your coloring?
By the way, guess who Superpope voted on day 1? Throwaway packmate vote for the win?
VOTE SUPER POPE
I see a possible alibi, a throwaway and a possible attempt to save.
I see a possible alibi, a throwaway and a possible attempt to save.
My last vote was because I can't count. I intended to maintain the tie, but also didn't have time to read the thread properly as I was going out.
I've voted Citizen twice, first time because I thought he was w wolf, second time because I didn't have time to didn't come up with anything better, so thought I would vote for the tie.
I've voted Citizen twice, first time because I thought he was w wolf, second time because I didn't have time to didn't come up with anything better, so thought I would vote for the tie.
Oops. They are from different packs.
Let's rename the other to ... pack D?
Did you look at the list of subs on the front page?
Shamless i know but ese is the sort of person to vote on a pack mate to keep his record clean. First on jpr.. maybe but i wouldnt think its a definate. Now Falc however, he knows the ropes, he would allow ese to do this without thinking it was some sort of betrayal or something stupid. So i wonder..
Vote Falc
Vote Falc
Well I voted for him when he got lynched, so hopefully that's evidence of me not being a werewolf in his pack.
It's no fun voting for someone so far ahead in the votes, so I'm left with a choice between Super Pope or Falc... Flipped a coin, falc won.
Vote Falc
If it hadn't been for the fact that I only did it because I'd hate to see an autolynch, I might have taken offence at you ignoring my request for a submarine. Now, not so much.
If it hadn't been for the fact that I only did it because I'd hate to see an autolynch, I might have taken offence at you ignoring my request for a submarine. Now, not so much.
This?
I thought you were drunk.
Votecount, 5 hours 25 minutes to deadline
reis (3) - RepBentley2, Cliges, Jack118
Falc (2) - Adamus, jpr123
Valhalla's Call (1) - reis
The Super Pope (1) - Falc
Not voted: Rendap2, Valhalla's Call, The Super Pope
Missed a vote: Valhalla's Call, RepBentley2, Jack118
reis (3) - RepBentley2, Cliges, Jack118
Falc (2) - Adamus, jpr123
Valhalla's Call (1) - reis
The Super Pope (1) - Falc
Not voted: Rendap2, Valhalla's Call, The Super Pope
Missed a vote: Valhalla's Call, RepBentley2, Jack118