Werewolf CXCVIII - Purgatorio OR: Make Werewolf Great Again

[aedan777]

I have been wondering why I should continue to follow your instructions on the council and how you made it to be our JL contact. I am sure that the council is infiltrated and I will need proof to clear you, given how all the goodies have vanished since you started giving us instructions.

This part is a fabrication. I don't type like this. And this makes no sense for me to say in such an accusative manner since just beforehand Sleepyhead's instructions to the council killed a wolf (De Chatillon).

And in any event, my point is that Sleepyhead was turned recently, so him being cleared by the JL means little since he would've been turned long after the scanners were dead.

And your desperation is obvious, since you can't give a slightly possible role for me to have. If I'm a baddie, then that'd mean EL was lying, or the much vaunted spy reports were wrong. EL lying still doesn't make any sense, and the spy reports have been otherwise reliable. And if I was a baddie, then why would I bother making a complex outing like this? I've been in no danger of being lynched, and there were easier targets to make a false outing on than the supposed JL coordinator.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Last things from yesterday:

The village is clueless and therefore we need to direct the vote today. Otherwise it's likely that someone will be lynched we don't want to be lynched.

Besides npstr and aedan I don't see better candidates than Al-Aziz to use for this.

I haven't contacted him/her yet, so I wait for your reaction before sending the request to lynch JCan/Health

It's a she

You can tell her that JCan and Health are the priority lynches based on our inside information.

Have you been in contact with k-59 and Cliges? I can reach out to them seeing as I was involved in their last PJL activities and the council is quiet.

I already thought that Al-Aziz is a she, but after my mistake with k-59 I wanted to be sure ...

I haven't been in contact with k-59 or Cliges, but I don't have a problem if you contact them and give them minimal information.
I don't know how easily they will be convinced to follow the instructions, but I leave that to you.

I have informed them

I have informed Al-Aziz and aedan.

K,

goodie victory hopefully approaching then.

JCan actually has a not so terrible vote record, perhaps we have to disclose the information and theory on him? Health is otherwise entirely lynchable.

I haven't received reactions from aedan and Al-Aziz yet. And that is slightly worrying. Not that I suddenly think they are baddies, but it's possible they are confused. And that the village is confused, that's clear from the current discussions/votes.

K-59, Cliges and nappy are on board. The latter also confirmed that he will be spying on Jacksonian tonight.

I'm not counting on aedan to confirm, but I trust al-Aziz, K-59 and Cliges will.

 

[al-Aziz]

Ah, al-Aziz is making analysis. Who's the player(s) she falsely thinks is still alive this time?

Found it. Yes, I'd suspect our long dead Padre is not a likely red.

/fail

At least I'm usually right about the dead players.

That seems like affected cluelessness, especially from someone who makes handwritten notes. For now,

Engh, when has cluelessness ever been a wolfish trait?

I've yet to decide who to vote, but could Sleepy please explain what this means?

Aedan google translating:

Time to break out google translate.

Well, I do not like this, but I have to.
I am psychic and you are twice scanned. You can still be damned, why you have not been contacted. We are not in contact with LK. He can be vH, but it is also the only good he can be.

Here is a phrase that people will contact you if I die: Loop drinking beer in the thousands.
Okay...

I was now not online at the deadline, so I lurk on how many others you contacted with the same message?

What have you scanned and how is it that you were in contact with Audren?
Audren scanned me night 2 and contacted me then. Since we were in contact. I can quote messages if you do not believe me. Besides you, I contacted only one other player. He is the only seer scanned, but I trust him when he played an important role in getting me saved yesterday. The role is not visible from the wire, however, as it was via PM he organized it. Johho was far from my favorite; he was unfortunately the only thing that could be done.
Since you and he might be cursed, I prefer for the moment to keep you separate.
LK is the way vH. He superskannede me in the night; it turned out that I am blessed. I scanned the wolf wombat in the night; it is not clearly established whether LK shoot him or he hanged.
Which skills do you have?
I am a villager who sit in the village council. The other members are:

Aedan
JermanTK
npster
Health
Hazbot

We have 3 hunters shot, GA, an opportunity to use testimonials, a priest and a divine wife.

We can not use our abilities for two nights in a row. Yesterday we failed to shoot LK. Me and Hazbot was not online so they are trying to get at who calved / protected LK.

I can get them to shoot wombat, if you want.
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It was nice to get the council to know; Jerman has been in contact with LK and told him about your shot attempts. Complete hole in his head to try to shoot him in my opinion.

Jerman claimed he changed his shot order at the last second and that was what saved LK. Can you back it up?

Have the others said anything about their abilities? I have reason to believe that npstr possibly evil. He contacting the still Audren and claimed he had seen Audren scan you. And sørme on Audren not end up chased two nights later.

A priest scanning would not be mad when we can double scan probably a person.

With regard to the wombat, so there could be idea that it was LK, so people do not mistrust him. But there could of course also be idea that the council fired him, so that they are not out of pure idiocy shot a coincidence.

Have you used some skills?
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Jerman has not said anything about it. No one has mentioned their abilities and we have not used one yet.

I had voted to fire him, I had been online: D

Have each scanners started with an apprenticeship anyway?
I have no apprentice.
How do you know that Hazbot not voted for skudet? It seems me that much not equal Aedan that Aedan voted for such a shot. On the other side, so it looks like you do not vote for such a shot, and I know you're good.

Have you seen the way that there is a press conference on the Scandinavian Star for 23 minutes? I assume that the press conference (believe it held in Oslo) is transmitted over the web banquets; if so, should I post a link?
Health: Soooooo........ What should be done about the LK scenario. Should we trust him or keep him under the bus?

Aedan: Well I don't believe him and think he's a likely cultist. If he's not going to get lynched, I think we should shoot him.

npster: I'm not buying it either.
Then they decided to shoot him. I had done the same had I been there. Aedan checked and noted that I and Hazbot was not present, but that the four would be enough.
"Keep him under the bus"? What Do Health with it?
He used the wrong verb, it is called "Throw someone under the bus." Used when you want to leave anyone in the lurch or snitch on someone, here more specifically kill / murder.
Do good "throw somebody under the bus"; it was "keep under the bus" I thought it was strange, since it indicated that you had already thrown under it.
That more or less an accurate translation?

 

[Sleepyhead]

This part is a fabrication. I don't type like this. And this makes no sense for me to say in such an accusative manner since just beforehand Sleepyhead's instructions to the council killed a wolf (De Chatillon).

And in any event, my point is that Sleepyhead was turned recently, so him being cleared by the JL means little since he would've been turned long after the scanners were dead.

And your desperation is obvious, since you can't give a slightly possible role for me to have. If I'm a baddie, then that'd mean EL was lying, or the much vaunted spy reports were wrong. EL lying still doesn't make any sense, and the spy reports have been otherwise reliable. And if I was a baddie, then why would I bother making a complex outing like this? I've been in no danger of being lynched, and there were easier targets to make a false outing on than the supposed JL coordinator.

It makes no sense for a goodie to say so no. But you clearly aren't one.

I am not, nor was I ever cursed.
Npstr spied on me after the madchemist hunt and never got the same report as he did on Hazbot and Health - he found that both were cursed as visible in the conversations and when he spied on me he found nothing.

EL could have just been spreading chaos.

You'd make this outing if parity was approaching, which I am assuming it is given your action.

 

[Cliges]

/fail

At least I'm usually right about the dead players.

Engh, when has cluelessness ever been a wolfish trait?

I've yet to decide who to vote, but could Sleepy please explain what this means?

Well, fake cluelessness.

 

[Sleepyhead]

/fail

At least I'm usually right about the dead players.

Engh, when has cluelessness ever been a wolfish trait?

I've yet to decide who to vote, but could Sleepy please explain what this means?

It is a google translation made by aedan of mine and Wagonlitz' conversation after he double cleared and contacted me. You can look at the original in Swedish/Danish and compare.

 

[Cliges]

Damn it, I knew I should have stuck with learning Danish. Abandoning it came back to bite me in the ass.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Npstr spying and my early conversation, including the no-hunt and the spy report on me

Hi Sleepy,
I am a village spy and this is an attempt at establishing a PJL.

As prove that ur clean: I have reasons to believe that you are the priest/an apprentice of him.

I think I have information on 2 more councilmembers being good. And one being bad. The good ones (me + 3 = 4 altogether, which is enough) are being contacted in the same fashion by me, and if this works tonight (Hazbot dies and is a baddie), I may establish a PJL chat for those that agree to be on it.

Anyway what I would like you to do tonight is as a council member to vote to shoot Hazbot in ur message to marty. My intel says he is a baddie, tho it sounds more like a cultist than a wolf.

You don't have to do this. You don't have to answer me or confirm or deny anything to me. If this does not work no harm will be done to you, since noone contacted gets any information on the others contacted. If I am getting lynched I will reveal my intel on the forums tho, not revealing the goodie role I suspect you to be tho. Only one I am bringing in danger with this is myself.

Best regards
npstr

I'm not shooting anyone on the council because council analysis is retarded.

I'm no apprentice/priest, if you spied on me, Audren scanned me and you learned his name, you'll have to excuse me but I'll hold you as a highly likely baddie suspect then. Given the recent hunt on Audren.

I'm not shooting anyone on the council because council analysis is retarded.

I'm no apprentice/priest, if you spied on me, Audren scanned me and you learned his name, you'll have to excuse me but I'll hold you as a highly likely baddie suspect then. Given the recent hunt on Audren.

I don't have any arguments against that.

Still Hazbot is a baddie, and I like to emphasize ur vote tonight would be important in that matter. If it turns out he isn't, more than than half the council would have reliable proof that I'm a baddie.

What is your proof of his baddieness?

I am not allowed to quote GM messages. But basically, I spied aedan earlier too, and I got an interesting report back, which after E_L outed him as cursed makes sense. The scan from Hazbot contained the exact same wording and another sentence about him being even more suspicious. That's why I am concluding him as a baddie. U may want to read up on the rules: Spy reports are vague, but not incorrect.

Also, analysis of the council may seem not so retarded from my point of view as a Spy. You should note my consistency of behaviour there.

You can retell the important words. Was it simply "suspicious" you got?

Got allowance for these quotes:

hazbot:
"He seems like a shifty fellow"
"explained by other, more sinister visitations"

Spy report was longer, but basically the rest is lore and these the important sentences.

OK, that could be worth looking into.

Please note that I am in the JL as of today. We have been requested to priest scan AVN.

Checking Hazbot's role will have to wait for now.
I'm making the council announcement now.

Meh.

Hope he get's lynched today then.

I'm taking ur JL claim with a grain of salt

You're spy reports have been forwarded to the JL. Hazbot has a chance of getting lynched.

If you can prove me that ur with the JL and not bluffing I got one more about a non-council member, of which I can't do much of, but the JL may due to access to more intel.

I can not prove it, no. Not without revealing the names and roles of the people in it, which you understand that I won't.
I was approached following being cleared. As you yourself have confirmed, I have been scanned.

I know. I was hoping there would be some other way. Maybe you can tell why you are voting the pope?

Nothing JL related, he's uncleared that is all and I found him suspicious.

Ok. We will have to wait the vote I guess. I will make sure that my info gets released with my death. This will make you suspect if I die tonight (assassinated or wolves). Just want you to know this and undertand this.

I think the wolves probably have other targets. Anyway, have you sent a priest scan order on AVN?

Btw. I am not the spy delta is talking about.
Yes I will be playing along this night and have sent the order.

Right, could you tell the others to abort the Hazbot shooting? We should play ball with the JL.

Doing it right now.

Hey Napster,

Could you spy on me tonight? I find it likely that I get hunted so you might learn something useful.

Haven't come up with a better idea so far. Will do. In case you AND LK die, is there another person I can coordinate with? Or will I get contacted?

Why would we both die?

In the unlikely case they have a hunter/assassin left.
Just trying to assume the worst case.

Two good things: You're alive and I have information:

I got "the feeling I can't quite read you" (ok I stopped taking my clues too serious).
Also Hax was watching us. And I am the only one that appeared to have noticed him due to my skillz (sic).

Guess Hax is a Spy. Is he cleared, did he contact the JL? Should I have a closer look on him next night?

He's a spy, but he was supposed to be watching aedan. Did he see the council action perhaps?

My report doesn't have details on it, it just says I noticed him while we were doing our business at AVN.

So yes, it totally fits with him spying on aedan.

Yeah he apparently saw aedan with several other players walking about, he only saw me though.

Thanks for your assistance yesterday. We don't think that I'm a target, so please spy on aedan.

We'll put Hax on someone else.

Can do.

Btw. is Hax anywhere near cleared? Want that info for the voting today, since in my humble opinion he is a great lynch target.

He's not clear, but he's been cooperative.

Did the wolves turn aedan?

Didn't receive my report yet.

Just got it. No activity, he still seems like an "odd follower"

 

[Sleepyhead]

Damn it, I knew I should have stuck with learning Danish. Abandoning it came back to bite me in the ass.

If you think I can fake Danish in short notice, you hold me in too high a regard.

Can you confirm having received instructions to lynch Health and JCan today? If yes, then why were you on al-Aziz.

al-Aziz, the same goes for you. Why were you on npstr?

 

[al-Aziz]

Huh. That's interesting.

I can certainly confirm the veracity of Sleepyhead's PMs wrt JCan and Health:

OK, I have the green light to tell you more.

Based on spy reports we knew that aedan was cursed but not turned on the no hunt night.
We also knew that Hazbot was at least cursed (maybe even a baddie) and concluded that he was possibly turned. Therefore we decided that he should be hunted by you.
Based on another spy report we conclude that JCan is a baddie (likely he was hunting Hax last night).
We also have information that Health is cursed. And it's possible he was turned on the no hunt night. If possible we want to tie him with JCan.
But the priority is the lynching of JCan.

I hope you can/will help in achieving that.

However, he hasn't satisfactorily answered aedan's response:

This part is a fabrication. I don't type like this. And this makes no sense for me to say in such an accusative manner since just beforehand Sleepyhead's instructions to the council killed a wolf (De Chatillon).

And in any event, my point is that Sleepyhead was turned recently, so him being cleared by the JL means little since he would've been turned long after the scanners were dead.

And your desperation is obvious, since you can't give a slightly possible role for me to have. If I'm a baddie, then that'd mean EL was lying, or the much vaunted spy reports were wrong. EL lying still doesn't make any sense, and the spy reports have been otherwise reliable. And if I was a baddie, then why would I bother making a complex outing like this? I've been in no danger of being lynched, and there were easier targets to make a false outing on than the supposed JL coordinator.

Yes, it does not make sense for aedan to do this as a baddie when he was not suspected for the lynch and could have easily just run up another candidate. Additionally, according to AVN's spy reports aedan wasn't turned.

Sleepy - from what I understand, the issue is not that you're not in the JL or in contact with AVN, so the PMs have little to do with anything.

I know from the first-hand spy reports that Sleepy posted that aedan was only walking about oddly, etc., which could make him a cultist — except that he wouldn't have been cursed if he was a cultist. Or — is it possible for cultists to be cursed?'

I'm inclined to trust aedan here.

 

[Sleepyhead]

The Health/JCan part of npstr:

Could you spy on Health please? He's a blank slate

I spied him on Monday and got a report very similar to that of Hazbot. Stayed home but much suspicious lore. Will spy him again, if he is a wolf and the packs are alternating with the hunts he could be out tonight

Given your Health report we'd support you targeting JCan tonight

I wasn't even able of monitoring JCan, it says toughest of my targets to do that. No way of saying if he was out or not. Mentions it could be cause of his hunter trait.

Well I had no problem of getting info on TSP who was also a hunter. So this seems suspicious indeed, but nothing really solid.

What do you mean "toughest of my targets"?

Tough to find out what he is doing. As in, he may be home, he may be away, can't tell at all.

To be exact, the report says "slippery". I asked marty if I can share it in its entirety, but he will probably answer somewhen tomorrow.

You find JCan one of your most slippery targets of all time. Perhaps it's down to his known hunter training, stalking through the night and day like a crazy warlord genius soldier, but you find it impossible to get a read on him, or to follow him or even monitor him. Did he leave the house last night? You really have no way of knowing.

Aight cool.

Could you spy on Jacksonian tonight?

We'll try to lynch JCan and Health today. A tie would be preferable.

Confirmed

 

[aedan777]

This is your defense? You claim spy reports clear you, when pretty much the same spy reports clear me? Which is besides the fact that "Can't quite read you" isn't clearing in the slightest.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Huh. That's interesting.

I can certainly confirm the veracity of Sleepyhead's PMs wrt JCan and Health:


However, he hasn't satisfactorily answered aedan's response:


Yes, it does not make sense for aedan to do this as a baddie when he was not suspected for the lynch and could have easily just run up another candidate. Additionally, according to AVN's spy reports aedan wasn't turned.

Sleepy - from what I understand, the issue is not that you're not in the JL or in contact with AVN, so the PMs have little to do with anything.

I know from the first-hand spy reports that Sleepy posted that aedan was only walking about oddly, etc., which could make him a cultist — except that he wouldn't have been cursed if he was a cultist. Or — is it possible for cultists to be cursed?'

I'm inclined to trust aedan here.

aedan is known for pulling stunts which "make no sense" and people let him pull them off because "they make no sense".

 

[aedan777]

I know from the first-hand spy reports that Sleepy posted that aedan was only walking about oddly, etc., which could make him a cultist — except that he wouldn't have been cursed if he was a cultist. Or — is it possible for cultists to be cursed?'

Cultists, like all baddies, can not be cursed. The only role that can be cursed is villager.

 

[al-Aziz]

aedan is known for pulling stunts which "make no sense" and people let him pull them off because "they make no sense".

But the spy reports that don't implicate aedan?

 

[aedan777]

aedan is known for pulling stunts which "make no sense" and people let him pull them off because "they make no sense".

You must be confusing me with someone else. I never perform actions that make no sense.

 

[Sleepyhead]

This is your defense? You claim spy reports clear you, when pretty much the same spy reports clear me? Which is besides the fact that "Can't quite read you" isn't clearing in the slightest.

As you can see, the same adjective was used for Health and Hazbot, i.e. "shifty". This did not show up in my spy report.

Your report had odd and follower, which we assumed was cursed council member. Now that we have Health's and Hazbot's roles confirmed, it could as well mean cultist.

 

[De Chatillôn]

 

[Sleepyhead]

You must be confusing me with someone else. I never perform actions that make no sense.

Seemingly.

 

[al-Aziz]

Cultists, like all baddies, can not be cursed. The only role that can be cursed is villager.

Is this *knowledge from above*, or your inferences?

Your report had odd and follower, which we assumed was cursed council member. Now that we have Health's and Hazbot's roles confirmed, it could as well mean cultist.

The thing is, though, that EL claimed aedan was cursed — though perhaps he got a spy report as well. Meaning that aedan was never cursed, but rather always a cultist. And because of Hazbot and Health being cursed and being called "shifty", it's strange that aedan if he was cursed wasn't the same way.

Vote aedan