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This is just stupid. The only case against me is that I voted Canadian when we don't even know if Canadian is or isn't a wolf yet. In fact Aedan is voting me when he was the person who made the case against Canadian on the first place. You know, if I'm going to die at least I will die voting Canadian again. .

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I voted him to get a response. Once he gave a good defense, I moved my vote because I had gotten what I wanted. You stuck with him even after he defended himself. And that's not the only case against you, you also spent many posts today trying to discredit Ithvan and give possibilities where he could be a baddie.
 

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I will reiterate, if I didn't vote for Jerman first day, there was a decent chance he wouldn't have died. My reasoning could have been easily applied to another target. It was not. If I were a wolf, keeping Jerman in the running would have been ludicrously stupid. I did vote away from him, sure, but that was because the ground was shifting under my feet. Marshalls actions were strange, even if they turned out to be correct in the end. Not saying that the evidence is so definitive I couldn't be a wolf, but it's definitive enough that picking me out seems odd.
 

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I voted him to get a response. Once he gave a good defense, I moved my vote because I had gotten what I wanted. You stuck with him even after he defended himself. And that's not the only case against you, you also spent many posts today trying to discredit Ithvan and give possibilities where he could be a baddie.

Because it was really unlikely that he used his priestly power with a single player and that player was a zealot. Too much coincidence but I didn't say he was a baddie, I only said that we couldn't trust him blindly and give him too much information when we couldn't be sure. After he explained himself and Deathnote wrote his post I was the first one saying that we can trust him as JL.
 

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Why? You've voted me D1 as well. It seems a bit like tunnel vision.
After he explained himself and Deathnote wrote his post I was the first one saying that we can trust him as JL
You seemed a bit overconfident or overeager about trusting him as JL, as though covering for some past mistake. You lack of doubt after DNC wrote her post was highly arbitrary, especially considering how skeptical you were earlier.

The TIE seems all right to me right now.
 

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Because it was really unlikely that he used his priestly power with a single player and that player was a zealot. Too much coincidence but I didn't say he was a baddie, I only said that we couldn't trust him blindly and give him too much information when we couldn't be sure. After he explained himself and Deathnote wrote his post I was the first one saying that we can trust him as JL.
So your defense is your an idiot who doesn't understand how probability works?
 

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Why? You've voted me D1 as well. It seems a bit like tunnel vision.

You seemed a bit overconfident or overeager about trusting him as JL, as though covering for some past mistake. You lack of doubt after DNC wrote her post was highly arbitrary, especially considering how skeptical you were earlier.

The TIE seems all right to me right now.

It was not just Death's post, it was the explanation about Ithvan making first the the seer scan and after the priest scan what seemed more likely. Anyway Cutie's post was very important because I'm sure a wolfpack wouldn't be so exposed.

So your defense is your an idiot who doesn't understand how probability works?

Of course not, the probability of Ithvan hitting a zealot with so many players alive only with a priestly power was very very low. After when I knew he used a priestly scan and a seerish scan it was more likely and not so improbable. After Cutie's post I was really convinced.
 

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You seemed a bit overconfident or overeager about trusting him as JL, as though covering for some past mistake. You lack of doubt after DNC wrote her post was highly arbitrary, especially considering how skeptical you were earlier.
This is good point. If it's highly unlikely for Ithvan to have scanned Rovsea as a zealot then it must be less likely for someone to happen to Jester DNC's scan into a vH scan. For them both them to happen would be near impossible. So, if De Chat was holding to his idea he should rejecct DNC's story.
 

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Of course not, the probability of Ithvan hitting a zealot with so many players alive only with a priestly power was very very low. After when I knew he used a priestly scan and a seerish scan it was more likely and not so improbable.
You moron. The probability of the two scans is independent. Him using a seer a scan makes zero difference to his priest scan.
 

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This is good point. If it's highly unlikely for Ithvan to have scanned Rovsea as a zealot then it must be less likely for someone to happen to Jester DNC's scan into a vH scan. For them both them to happen would be near impossible. So, if De Chat was holding to his idea he should rejecct DNC's story.

I said that I felt absolutely stupid from a wolfpack that so many members were exposed. And in fact you said you agreed with me so now you're fooling us with this post.
 

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Official count pre outing

Hax: 5
johho888 [757]
Gen. Skobelev [776]
JCan [783]
Rovsea [741 Canadian -> 784]
Gen. Marshall [676 MC -> 786]

Dadarian: 4
tamius23 [719]
Audren [722]
Hazbot [726]
daird [733]

k-59: 4
Sleepyhead [745]
RepBentley [761]
Eternaly_Lost [781]
Delta21 [782]

Canadian: 3
al-Aziz [690]
De Chatillôn [718]
Emperor Ike [736 Chat -> 768]

Livingstone: 2
Dadarian [749]
Canadian_95_RTS [723 wombat -> 759]

Ike: 2
k-59 [743]
aedan777 [675 Canadian -> 762]

Hazbot: 2
Jacksonian Missionary [728]
Hax [764]

Chat: 1
madchemist [709 Livingstone -> 778]

Bentley: 1
Dr.Livingstone [765]

Not voted: 5
DeathNoteForCutie []
deathbywombat []
CaesarCzech []
alxeu []
Ithvan []

Bentley tried voting EURO in 704, but EURO isn't playing
I'm pretty sure Rovsea was trying to save someone which means goodie points to Canadian.

Unvote Aziz
Vote Dadarian


Let's make this tighter.
 

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Not so long ago I was a GA and on the council, so it's not unheard of, especially considering that Wagon is an inexperienced GM
He has GMed two bigs. He isn't inexperienced just bad at balance.
 

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You moron. The probability of the two scans is independent. Him using a seer a scan makes zero difference to his priest scan.

You're the moron here. It's not so difficult for understand that someone hitting just a ZEALOT when that's the only baddie he could get with a SINGLE PRIEST POWER is really difficult with so many players alive.
 

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I said that I felt absolutely stupid from a wolfpack that so many members were exposed. And in fact you said you agreed with me so now you're fooling us with this post.
I found your criticism of Ithvan unrealistic to start with. So, when you changed your mind to my view I agreed with you. But you did changed how you were viewing probabilities.