Werewolf CXCVII: Chopin

[aedan777]

"Never trust anyone" is so boring and frankly detrimental. People often tell the truth even when they are working against you. And making assumptions about whether or not you can trust or predict others is an important part of the werewolf finding process.

But you should always distrust everyone. How is that different you ask? Never trusting anyone means you just reject whatever they say and remain a paranoid recluse who never shares information or works with others. Distrusting everyone means working with them, but being careful of who knows what, and never taking their allegiance for granted. You can never be sure of someone else's role, so don't accept what they say without keeping in mind what they might have to gain from it if they were working against your interests. Paranoia is good in moderation, but take it too far and you're a recluse who doesn't contribute to your side since you won't share information.

Of course that's all good in theory, but in a game it often isn't clear where the line between healthy and excessive paranoia is. So it'll be up to individual judgement, but if anyone's really in doubt they should PM everything they known and ask me for help.

 

[Dr.Livingstone]

"Never trust anyone" is so boring and frankly detrimental. People often tell the truth even when they are working against you. And making assumptions about whether or not you can trust or predict others is an important part of the werewolf finding process.

But you should always distrust everyone. How is that different you ask? Never trusting anyone means you just reject whatever they say and remain a paranoid recluse who never shares information or works with others. Distrusting everyone means working with them, but being careful of who knows what, and never taking their allegiance for granted. You can never be sure of someone else's role, so don't accept what they say without keeping in mind what they might have to gain from it if they were working against your interests. Paranoia is good in moderation, but take it too far and you're a recluse who doesn't contribute to your side since you won't share information.

Of course that's all good in theory, but in a game it often isn't clear where the line between healthy and excessive paranoia is. So it'll be up to individual judgement, but if anyone's really in doubt they should PM everything they known and ask me for help.

Semantics. Perhaps it would be better to say that you should always have doubts in your head whenever you deal with anyone, and perhaps one could word the 'never trust anyone' in such a way as to be more practical, but as a mantra it works. In WW, you should not trust anyone, for even if they are telling you the absolute and verifiable proof, you should always distrust their motives and never fail to realize those motives could change at any moment. Trust should be earned, and in WW it's currency is valued and limited, but nonetheless wasted by those inexperienced in the game. Take me as an example. I made many foolish mistakes in my early days here because I forgot the tenet of trust in WW, and thus failed to play adequately. Hopefully I've learned my lesson, but that remains to be seen. In essence, no one should trust that I, or anyone else, will play, will play optimally, will play to our benefit, will continue our motives, and will not lie.
In WW, these are often exclusive of one another, and so I reiterate, never trust anyone.

 

[Dadarian]

Kek

I have won both a big and a lite, so I maintain I am simply a pariah in the community, not a bad player.

Speaking of pariahs in the community, plan to rejoin the forum game community any time soon?

Don't trust anyone. If someone tells you to vote someone, and they announce that the seer told them to do it in thread, vote for that someone. Don't trust anyone. Don't random vote. Don't say that you are a werewolf. Think before voting. Don't trust anyone. If you are a wolf, vote as you would if you were a villager. Listen to people's analysis, and if you feel confused about something, examine why you are confused. Did I mention not trusting anyone?

These.

If you can't think of a reason to vote, make up some reason. If it's good enough, it gets people going too.

Also other people's analysis are sometimes straight hogwash. So in reality just sound like you know what you're talking about and most people won't look twice.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Speaking of pariahs in the community, plan to rejoin the forum game community any time soon?

You are saying pencil is planning on coming back?

 

[Dadarian]

You are saying pencil is planning on coming back?

Wot?

 

[EUROO7]

you're not a pariah give me a break

 

[Sleepyhead]

Kurwa, let's get back to our Slavic theme

 

[Wagonlitz]

Wot?

pjnlsn; a true pariah of WW. And as far as I remember the only true pariah of WW.

 

[aedan777]

pjnlsn; a true pariah of WW. And as far as I remember the only true pariah of WW.

Certain people are better off being forgotten, and not brought up randomly.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Kurwa, let's get back to our Slavic theme

Are you certain that one doesn't violate the forum rules on not violating American sensitivities?

 

[Dadarian]

you're not a pariah give me a break

I'm being melodramatic

pjnlsn; a true pariah of WW. And as far as I remember the only true pariah of WW.

Totally forgot about him and his puppets, #whoops

 

[Sleepyhead]

Are you certain that one doesn't violate the forum rules on not violating American sensitivities?

It's on Youtube, it's American.

 

[Cliges]

Are you certain that one doesn't violate the forum rules on not violating American sensitivities?

Americans don't like tits now?

You really need to travel more.

 

[Wagonlitz]

It's on Youtube, it's American.

So are the Fleggaard commercials. (Fleggaard is a border shop chaing and they used to make commercials with scantly clad/nude females under the slogan "lige over grænsen"; with both meanings implied.) I once asked Blade if I could use some of them as examples and the answer was no; too daring for American sensibilities.

Americans don't like tits now?

Of course they like tits; doesn't mean that they are allowed under the great American censorship. This forum operates under that vague American term "family friendly" which that Polish video probably doesn't fit under.

 

[EUROO7]

I once asked Blade if I could use some of them as examples and the answer was no; too daring for American sensibilities.

That's right, Paradox is an American company.

 

[Cliges]

So are the Fleggaard commercials. (Fleggaard is a border shop chaing and they used to make commercials with scantly clad/nude females under the slogan "lige over grænsen"; with both meanings implied.) I once asked Blade if I could use some of them as examples and the answer was no; too daring for American sensibilities.
Of course they like tits; doesn't mean that they are allowed under the great American censorship. This forum operates under that vague American term "family friendly" which that Polish video probably doesn't fit under.

Can't feed a a baby without tits, Wagonlitz. How family friendly is that?

 

[Wagonlitz]

That's right, Paradox is an American company.

No they aren't; but they follow American morals due to those being dominant internationally due to the dominance of America.
But how can you say that this rule isn't very American?
7. Posting Pics of people in states of undress, underwear or eroticism (including masturbation) not appropriate for the home or office space.
Elaboration on rule 7 is as follows:
Rule #1: The person must be clothed as Blade! would not mind seeing his grandma or grandpa.

Rule #2: If you feel that the pic you want to share, may not fit with Rule #1, you may still post a link to it. Unless of course it violates Rule #3.....

Rule #3: No linking to ****ography/erotica, or sites displaying ****ography/erotica, as this is a site many people view from work and home.

Rule #4: No pics or linking to people under sixteen.

Lethke's translation of rule #1: Do not post Bikini/bathingsuit pics, do not post underwear pics. Do not post pics with seetrough clothing.


Actual porn of course shouldn't be posted due to people viewing the forums from work, but the rest is pretty American and not European morals.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Really, the rules blot out the word "porn*graphy"? That's cute.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Can't feed a a baby without tits, Wagonlitz. How family friendly is that?

Can't feed a a baby without tits, Wagonlitz. How family friendly is that?

Well I might be wrong, but isn't publicly breastfeeding women in the US quite controversial? Here it isn't really controversial (though once in a while a fool tries to make it controversial) and national TV doesn't really have much problem in showing tits including nipples as long as it is done non sexually.

 

[Cliges]

No they aren't; but they follow American morals due to those being dominant internationally due to the dominance of America.
But how can you say that this rule isn't very American?
7. Posting Pics of people in states of undress, underwear or eroticism (including masturbation) not appropriate for the home or office space.
Elaboration on rule 7 is as follows:
Rule #1: The person must be clothed as Blade! would not mind seeing his grandma or grandpa.

Rule #2: If you feel that the pic you want to share, may not fit with Rule #1, you may still post a link to it. Unless of course it violates Rule #3.....

Rule #3: No linking to ****ography/erotica, or sites displaying ****ography/erotica, as this is a site many people view from work and home.

Rule #4: No pics or linking to people under sixteen.

Lethke's translation of rule #1: Do not post Bikini/bathingsuit pics, do not post underwear pics. Do not post pics with seetrough clothing.


Actual porn of course shouldn't be posted due to people viewing the forums from work, but the rest is pretty American and not European morals.

You didn't seem to take issue with the video I linked with Bardot.