There's probably some way he got caught in some way.
Maybe I should read the first post and try to tease out the manifold ways this could have happened!
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There's probably some way he got caught in some way.
Maybe I should read the first post and try to tease out the manifold ways this could have happened!
I continue to not believe that a presumptive JL would pick a Padre as spokesman over an OEO villager. Ike's outing just rests on such a baffling convergence of idiocy and incompetence that perhaps we're all doomed anyway if somehow he's speaking the truth.
Maybe I'd believe him if Wombat were a cultist. Maybe. But as a wolf in contact with the seer? Kinda ridiculous.
Maybe I'd believe him if Wombat were a cultist. Maybe. But as a wolf in contact with the seer? Kinda ridiculous.
Normally I'd be in favour of following outings, but given the PMs posted, Wombat's are almost certainly genuine. Either that or he's invested an incredible amount of effort into faking them, but the former is more likely.
That said, Ike may not be lying. At the moment I'd say my theory is that Ike is a patsy who's been contacted by a wolf to out a villager, and then they'd plan to hunt him, although it seems a foolish idea in a Big with GAs around.
Ike: If you are a villager, you should give another player the name of the person who's supoosedly scanned wombat, so that if you and Wombat both die and flip villager we know who to lynch.
Until then,
Vote Emperor Ike
That said, Ike may not be lying. At the moment I'd say my theory is that Ike is a patsy who's been contacted by a wolf to out a villager, and then they'd plan to hunt him, although it seems a foolish idea in a Big with GAs around.
Ike: If you are a villager, you should give another player the name of the person who's supoosedly scanned wombat, so that if you and Wombat both die and flip villager we know who to lynch.
Until then,
Vote Emperor Ike
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Replacement Vote Count to Replace Hack GM
Hack GM: 5318008
Not Voted: Poor dead me.
Hack GM: 5318008
Not Voted: Poor dead me.
On a day where we have two outings, both with intense following, we should have a votecount.
I hereby petition our noble GM, @Jacksonian Missionary, enable @Audren the fair to count the votes in His Highness's absence.
I hereby petition our noble GM, @Jacksonian Missionary, enable @Audren the fair to count the votes in His Highness's absence.
*gm color* the high and mighty and all knowing gm gives permission to hack gm audren to make vote counts
FREELANCE HACK GM'S VOTECOUNT (.5ish HOURS REMAINING)
deathbywombat: 11
Emperor Ike [1255]
Rovsea [1259]
k-59 [1261]
De Chat [1263]
Sleepyhead [1254 Ithvan -> 1264]
LatinKaiser [1265]
EURO [1266]
johho [1267]
aedan [1289]
Ithvan [1262 wombat -> 1280 Ike -> 1304]
Comm Cody [1343]
Emperor Ike: 6
deathbywombat [1269]
Gen Marshall [1281]
Wagonlitz [1258 wombat -> 1283]
Hazbot [1314]
Cliges [1339]
tamius [1345]
Not Voted: 0
deathbywombat: 11
Emperor Ike [1255]
Rovsea [1259]
k-59 [1261]
De Chat [1263]
Sleepyhead [1254 Ithvan -> 1264]
LatinKaiser [1265]
EURO [1266]
johho [1267]
aedan [1289]
Ithvan [1262 wombat -> 1280 Ike -> 1304]
Comm Cody [1343]
Emperor Ike: 6
deathbywombat [1269]
Gen Marshall [1281]
Wagonlitz [1258 wombat -> 1283]
Hazbot [1314]
Cliges [1339]
tamius [1345]
Not Voted: 0
I still can't believe after I've proven about 6 ways from Sunday that I'm JL that I'm even close to being in the lead after this fiasco of an early outing. Is this village truly composed of such utter simpletons to take the barely supported word of a returning player who decided to "out" a player 8 hours early over my exhaustive and well-documented proof of my innocence, or at very least my non-wolfhood?
Under other circumstances, I might consider the slight possibility that Ike may be a patsy of some sort, and may well be being bamboozled somehow by clever sorcerer or pack play. But conveniently, he doesn't seem to be around anyway to give us any further information because he is playing something else. This is a blatantly obvious setup, and anyone who cannot see this fact is blind or lupine.
Under other circumstances, I might consider the slight possibility that Ike may be a patsy of some sort, and may well be being bamboozled somehow by clever sorcerer or pack play. But conveniently, he doesn't seem to be around anyway to give us any further information because he is playing something else. This is a blatantly obvious setup, and anyone who cannot see this fact is blind or lupine.
You can prove you were part of the JL, but Ironhide being Ironhide, that's not a watertight defense. Moreover, I still can't see why Ike would do this as a wolf. We've only killed a single wolf from each pack, one of whom wasn't even a starting wolf, so both packs are probably still alive. So parity can't be close, and if it's not a push for parity, why would Ike fake out you? Some of put forward the possibility of him being scanned or otherwise detected, but if that was the case, why have we still not heard anything about that? There simply isn't a plausible reason for him to do a fake outing, so thus I'm compelled to believe it. Of course if Ike did a fake outing for the lulz of it, I'll just never trust an outing from him again.
Him being used by the wolves as a patsy is a possibility admittedly, but in that case lynching him over you still isn't a good option, since he's a goodie himself then.
What Aedan said. The JL being moronic and letting wolves in is more likely than a wolf deciding to randomly out a JL member as a wolf for no clear reason.
You forgot the cultist (JCan) on day one killed from the Whig pack. 17 players left, uneven packs of 4 and 3 (28 players at start, 9 baddies with 2 unattached baddies definitely makes sense), cloak of invisibility on a Federalist pack Ike, a sorc and possibly an unattached cultist running around with an unclaimed apprentice waiting to be picked up (or possibly even claimed by this point, shudder)? Easy slide to parity then, and I could definitely see that as a likely possibility.
Why not just try to steer the lynch then instead of outing someone who they knew could prove he was in the JL?