Werewolf CXCVI: The Rise of Jacksonianism

[Wagonlitz]

and if you're faking a PM then adding a decent fake number should be fairly trivial.

As we discussed earlier you need to have PMs from every day to do it convincingly, since otherwise you can't do a proper interpolation.

It seems really weird that there would be a seer's apprentice with ese going missing directly.

There is something called a standing order.

Either wombat is completely cleared and in the JL but I can't see how he can be - unless maybe if he is the priest?

He said he was seer scanned; also publicly speculating on who could be priest... You should know better.

 

[Team Wombat]

He's claimed to be in contact with Ironhide's apprentice turned seer, and Deathbywombat was found with a one-time seerish scan.

Why they chose him as Spokesperson appears to be because he was the least valuable member of the JL.

Padre's not a valuable role claim? What kind of Mickey Mouse JL is this that exposes a padre to hunts AND outs the role in the process, claiming it is the "least important" role?

Has wombat actually said Ike was scanned? Didn't he just say that it was a lie and proved he was JL?

As I noted before, Ironhide never once mentioned Emperor Ike to me, which would be ridiculously odd considering he told me 4 other PMs. I've already PMed 3 people about their claim AND mentioned a 4th message in thread, each of whom have acknowledged my claim is accurate.

Having the GA watch over IG the first night and the padre sit with him the next would make sense and I took for granted Ike was the padre that found a wolf that way.

It seems really weird that there would be a seer's apprentice with ese going missing directly. If one of Ike and wombat had claimed that I would have believed the other but now both claim it...

Ironhide seemed more sensitive than spilling a lot of names around when he tried to start up a JL last game (or at least got lots of advice not to do so and didn't do anything really stupid) so doing that now seems out of character. Either wombat is completely cleared and in the JL but I can't see how he can be - unless maybe if he is the priest?

Not a priest - villager with priestly powers (unused at the moment). And I never claimed to be a seer's apprentice or that I knew of one - what I claimed was that Ironhide was planning to scan a self-claimed apprentice seeking a scan the night before he was hunted.

Look, I'm not sure what else I can do for you all to prove my innocence. If you want to lynch a JL member and gift-wrap the wolves a victory just because any old Emperor Tom, Dick, and Harry makes a outing with more logical holes than Swiss cheese in it (and then ducks out to play another game), be my guest. But you will have my undying scorn for your utter and complete credulity if you do choose this path.

 

[johho888]

There is something called a standing order.

Yes, but that would mean esemesas played at all and I don't think he's even posted after role assignment.

He said he was seer scanned; also publicly speculating on who could be priest... You should know better.

Well, he is likely being lynched so we'll know soon enough but yes, you are right. I was only trying to find some scenarion that would explain what we've been seeing.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Padre's not a valuable role claim? What kind of Mickey Mouse JL is this that exposes a padre to hunts AND outs the role in the process, claiming it is the "least important" role?

Indeed; especially since there ought to be time to scan another player while sitting on a wolf name.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

Padre is not a trait.

It is too a trait. Look at the rules.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

For proof

Padre: May visit one person each night but can't visit the same person two nights in a row, if that person is hunted and killed by a wolf or a hunter, the name of one of the perpetrators will be given to the padre. Once a padre has gained a death bed confession she will no longer be able to wake with potential targets for the rest of the game.

 

[De Chatillôn]

Yes, but that would mean esemesas played at all and I don't think he's even posted after role assignment.

That's bad for both of them because Wombat said he was scanned by esemesas and that's why Ironhide trusted him. So one of them are lying about esemesas' scannings or he really made those scans.

 

[johho888]

That's bad for both of them because Wombat said he was scanned by esemesas and that's why Ironhide trusted him. So one of them are lying about esemesas' scannings or he really made those scans.

I know, which is why I have a hard time believing either of them.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Look IG made an outing the day he subbed in; lest he went rambo Cody style Ese must have set a standing---or at least sent in a scan the first night.

 

[Wagonlitz]

By the way Ike how did wombat get into the JL?
Because he couldn't have been scanned by IG.

 

[johho888]

Look IG made an outing the day he subbed in; lest he went rambo Cody style Ese must have set a standing---or at least sent in a scan the first night.

There was no night inbetween? That changes things.

 

[Wagonlitz]

There was no night inbetween? That changes things.

Not as far as I remember.

 

[johho888]

Quoting this because there are no links on page 1

Sham Vote Count:

Gen Marshall 3:
Rovsea
Yakman
Gen. Marshall

Sleepyhead 3:
JCan
Audren
Ithvan

Daniel Webster 2:
Wombat
MC

Johho 2:
E_L
Johho


DAVID MOTHER FU**** BOWIE FOR ETERNAL LIFE 1:
Comm. Cody

Andrew Fu**ing Jackson 1:
RepBentley

Terrence 1:
Kaisersohaib

Ronald Reagan 1:
Emperor Ike

JermanTK 1:
JermanTK

Tommy J 1:
Ironhide

Al-Aziz 1:
Hazbot

Marshall and Sleepyhead both win a small trait!

No esemesas voting this day.

Vote Count 18ish Minutes til Deadline

Audren 5:
De Chatillon (#264)
Kaisersohaib (#291)
Johho (#309)
Ironhide (#334)
Wagonlitz (#365)

JCan 4:
Gen. Marshall (Sleepyhead #263 -> Audren #301 -> #306)
Hazbot (Gen. Marshall #286 -> #324)
Sleephead (Wagonlitz #269 -> #362)
Cliges (#388)

JermanTK 4:
k-59 (MC #333 -> #401)
Ithvan (JCan #328 ->#403)
MadChemist (Emperor Ike #272 -> JCan #310 -> k-59 #380 -> #407)
Audren (Gen. Marshall #296 -> Unvote #304 -> MC #360 -> #411)

MadChemist 3:
EUROO7 (#276)
Emperor Ike (#288)
Rovsea (Wombat #284 ->#371)


Yakman 2:
DeathbyWombat (Aedan #267 ->#339)
Tamius (#341)

Emperor Ike 1:
Eternaly_Lost (#308)

Gen. Marshall 1:
Yakman (#317)

E_L 1:
JCan (Gen. Marshall #289 -> #312)

Rovsea 1:
Aedan (#268)

EUROO7 1:
Comm Cody (#270)

Kaisersohaib 1:
RepBentley (#266)

De Chatillon 1:
LatinKaiser (#300)

LatinKaiser 1:
JermanTK (#384)

Not Voted: @esemesas

no esemesas this day either.

GM's Smite Vote Count at Deadline

Ironhide 11:
Euro (Wagonlitz #503 -> #542)
Comm Cody (#564)
Johho (#581)
Kaisersohaib (#646)
DeathbyWombat (E_L #498 -> #694)
Wagonlitz (#697)
Eternaly_Lost (#736)
Rovsea (Wagon #511 -> #745)
MadChemist (Yakman #475 -> #749)
Audren (Ironhide #487 -> E_L #625 -> #759)
Audren (Ironhide #487 -> E_L #625 -> #759)

Eternaly_Lost 7:
Hazbot (#559)
De Chat (Sleepy #505 -> #628)
Emperor Ike (Sleepy #547 ->#629)
RepBentley (Wagon #563 -> #724)
JermanTK (#726)
Cliges (Wagon #699 -> #743)
LatinKaiser (IG #562 ->#750)

De Chat 2:
k-59 (Cody #496 -> #631)
Sleepyhead (Hazbot #568 -> #)

Wombat 2:
Yakman (#492)
Marshall (Hazbot #565 -> #731)

JermanTK 1:
Tamius (#648)

Wagonlitz 1:
Aedan (#502)

Euro 1:
Ironhide (#484)




Not Voted: Ithvan esemesas

Esemesas will be subbed out.

And again no esemesas.

Ironhide will be subbing for Esemesas

Ironhide subbing in immdiately after day/night 2 update.

GM's People Are Impatient Vote Count at the Deadline:

RepBentley 9:
Wombat (#816)
Habot (#823)
Aedan (#833)
Ithvan (#855)
Kaisersohaib (#859)
Hack GM (#876)
Hack GM (#876)
JermanTK (#970)
LatinKaiser (Bentley #897 -> Jerman #969 -> #971)

JermanTK 9:
Tamius (#813)
Sleepyhead (#838)
Emperor Ike (Jerman #839 -> LK #850 -> #856)
Comm Cody(#844)
De Chat (Wombat #840 -> #861)
k-59 (#903)
Cliges (#905)
Wagon (Bentley #817 -> #968)
RepBentley (PM)

LatinKaiser 4:
Eternaly_Lost (#841)
Johho (#884)
Euro (Ironhide #773 -> Bentley #880 -> #898)
Madchemist (Wombat #780 ->#933)

Wombat 3:
Ironhide (#782)
Rovsea (#805)
Marshall (Jerman #818 -> #912)

Any objections?

Here would be Ironhide's first scan. Making that on madchemist would make sense.

GM is Sick and Doesn't Feel Like Posting vote # at Deadline

MadChemist 12:
Ironhide (#1022)
De Chat (Wagonlitz #1015 -> #1043)
Johho (Tamius #1021 -> #1036)
Wagon (#1050)
Audren
Audren
Aedan (#1053)
LatinKaiser (#1057)
Rovsea (#999)
Wombat (#1016)
Ithvan (#1009)
Euro (#1052)


LatinKaiser 2:
Hazbot (#1014)
Tamius (#1038)

Cliges 2:
Marshall (#994)
Comm Cody (#1008)

Ironhide 1:
MadChemist (#1048)

Ithvan 1:
Sleepyhead (#1004)

Euro 1:
Emperor Ike (#1026)

Here would be Ironhide's second (and last scan), aparantly on Audren. Also this day would be when a priest had had a chance to scan him and when other goodies should have made contact.

Vote Count:

Audren is dead

And Ironhide got eaten. Not surprisingly since he should have been GA protected the night before and te doc is dead. Any padre worth his prayerbook should have sat by his bed here though.

So no, esemesas doesn't seemed to have played at all. Irohide didn't do the outing until after one night when he could scan.

So either esemesas did set a standing order and then disappeared, weird but I guess not unthinkable, or he had a starting apprentice. In case of the latter then maybe the GM allowed the apprentice to set the scan orders?

 

[De Chatillôn]

So either esemesas did set a standing order and then disappeared, weird but I guess not unthinkable, or he had a starting apprentice. In case of the latter then maybe the GM allowed the apprentice to set the scan orders?

I don't think the GM would allow that but if esemesas had a starting apprentice (I didn't know that's possible) then Ike's story could make sense

 

[Team Wombat]

Wait wait wait... A starting apprentice that Ironhide somehow forgot to mention?

 

[Wagonlitz]

I don't think the GM would allow that but if esemesas had a starting apprentice (I didn't know that's possible) then Ike's story could make sense

GMs have allowed apps to set orders in case of master being zombie before; it prevents screwing the game too much up.

 

[johho888]

Wait wait wait... A starting apprentice that Ironhide somehow forgot to mention?

Just trying to find some way either of your stories could check out. If a seer had an apprentice (starting or not) that should be the very last thing he would spread around, even within the JL.

GMs have allowed apps to set orders in case of master being zombie before; it prevents screwing the game too much up.

Yes, it has happened before. I just wonder if Jacksonian would think of that.

 

[EUROO7]

I'm here if needed.

 

[Cliges]

I'm going to assume that Ike is lying.

Probably got witnessed or something.

Vote Ike

 

[De Chatillôn]

I'm going to assume that Ike is lying.

Probably got witnessed or something.

Vote Ike

And where's the witness? Nobody claimed anything