Werewolf CXCIX: Invasion of the Cybermen

[johho888]

Day 1

Spoiler

Wagonlitz1 - 8
Nautilu [245]
Jacksonian Missionary [308]
AVN [321 Wagonlitz2 -> 347]
Hazbot [355]
EUROO7 [317 Wagonlitz1 -> 371 Hazbot -> 394 Wagonlitz1]
DeathnoteforCutie [417]
Delta21 [448]
happycats517 [373 Hazbot -> 453]

AVN - 6
Gen. Marshall [253]
Sleepyhead [323]
JCan [352]
k-59 [265 Gen. Marshall -> 291 unvote -> 318 Wagonlitz1 -> 385]
Emperor Ike [428]
Wagonlitz1 [238 -> 440 DeathNoteforCutie -> 455]

DeathNoteforCutie - 4
npstr [241 happycats517 -> 382 Hazbot -> 396]
johho888 [377 k-59 -> 416]
madchemist [226 -> 438]
Audren [235 Wagon -> 278 Gen. Marshall ->383]

spokyt - 3
aedan777 [236]
Eternaly_Lost [351]
De Chatillôn [361]

aedan777 - 2
spokyt [316]
Tornadoli [293 Eternaly_Lost -> 358 Hazbot -> 430]

Emperor Ike - 1
Mder1 [420 blaze it]

Audren - 1
Togee [249]

Wagonlitz2 - 1
Luftwaffle [254]

Kaisersohaib - 1
Chieron [322]

Yakman - 1
Kaisersohaib [324]

EUROO7 - 1
tamius23 [372]

not voted:
Wagonlitz2
Yakman
Comm Cody

Day 2

Spoiler

Emperor Ike (7):
Jacksonian Missionary [493 tamius23 -> 510 EUROO7 -> 559]
Hazbot [595]
Togee [532 Jacksonian Missionary -> 564 unvote -> 633]
DeathnoteforCutie [642]
johho888 [616 madcehmist -> 624 Mder1 -> 647]
madchemist [507 EUROO7 -> 524 unvote -> 560 Sleepyhead -> 648]
happycats517 [578 Eternaly_Lost -> #618 Mder1]

Mder1 (6):
npstr [529]
Chieron [586]
Kaisersohaib [576 AVN -> 596]
AVN [525 Mder1 -> 583 -> AVN 620]
Audren [606 Sleepyhead -> 622]
Sleepyhead [543 madchemist -> 625]

madchemist (5):
Tornadoli [489 Comm Cody -> 541]
Yakman [483 Kaisersohaib -> 544]
De Chatillôn [547]
Emperor Ike [548]
Mder1 [584]

Sleepyhead (3):
Gen. Marshall [545]
AVN [525 Mder1 -> 583 -> AVN 620]
EUROO7 [508 madchemist -> 515 Jacksonian Misssionary -> 592 unvote -> 594]

AVN (3):
Luftwafer [573]
Comm Cody [496 Hazbot -> 577]
Delta21 [650]

Comm Cody (2):
aedan777 [485]
tamius23 [497]

EUROO7 (1):
JCan [531]

Jacksonian Missionary (1):
spokyt [590 Jacksonian Missionary -> Tornadoli 628]

Delta21 (1):
Nautilu [528]

DeathNoteforCutie (1):
Eternaly_Lost [542]

Not voted
Wagonlitz2

Day 3

Spoiler

Delta21: 10
AVN (703)
Wagonlitz2 (724)
johho888 (725)
Eternaly_Lost (748 madchemist -> 760)
Chieron (793)
spokyt (803)
Comm Cody (712 Yakman -> 785 AVN -> 820)
Kaisersohaib (763 Yakman -> 832)
happycats517 (874)
Mder1 (884)

Comm Cody: 5
tamius23 (790)
Nautilu (718 DeathNoteforCutie -> 791)
Jacksonian Missionary (715 Delta21 -> 801)
aedan777 (778 Eternaly_Lost ->810)
madchemist (711 Yakman -> 900)

johho888: 3
Hazbot (851)
EUROO7 (792 Comm Cody -> Delta21 -> 857)
Gen. Marshall (734 Sleepyhead -> 802 Comm Cody -> 896)

EUROO7: 3
Tornadoli (730 aedan777 -> 784)
Togee (692 madchemist -> 819)
JCan (756 Mder1 -> 812 Comm Cody -> 827)

AVN: 3
Sleepyhead (773)
Yakman (681 madchemist -> 740 Tornadoli -> 780)
Luftwafer (787)

Mder1: 1
Audren (719)

Eternaly_Lost: 1
DeathNoteforCutie (861)

Not voted:
Delta21

Day 4

Spoiler

Kaisersohaib: 8
Nautilu (973)
DeathNoteforCutie (989)
Mder1 (993)
Eternaly_Lost (1003)
johho888 (1014)
Hazbot (1018)
happycats517 (1023)
Yakman (947 Wagonlitz -> EUROO7 -> 1051)

EUROO7: 8
Tornadoli (922 Comm Cody -> 960)
Gen. Marshall (956)
Togee (971 Comm Cody -> 975)
Comm Cody (976)
JCan (978)
Luftwafer (1017)
Kaisersohaib (990 tamius23 -> 1022 EUROO7 -> 1040 Audren -> 1049)
Chieron (998 happycats517 -> 1058)

Audren: 4
De Chatillôn (966)
Jacksonian Missionary (968)
AVN (980)
Wagonlitz2 (1034)

Wagonlitz2: 2
spokyt (979)
Audren (1013 Kaisersohaib -> Wagonlitz2 1054 -> 1059 EUROO7 -> 1060)

JCan: 1
aedan777 (981)

Luftwafer: 1
tamius23 (1006)

Day 5

Spoiler

Togee: 8
Nautilu (1124 JCan-> 1128)
Wagonlitz2 (1150)
Eternaly_Lost (1153)
Yakman (1080 Wagonlitz2 -> 1155 Eternaly_Lost -> 1157)
Mder1 (1161)
Luftwafer (1179)
Hazbot (1193)
johho888 (1084 Chieron -> 1219)

Luftwafer: 7
aedan777 (1117)
AVN (1121)
tamius23 (1141)
Comm Cody (1079 Mder1 -> 1151)
happycats517 (1187)
De Chatillôn (1159 Yakman -> 1198)
spokyt (1208)

Wagonlitz2: 5
Gen. Marshall (1095)
Jacksonian Missionary (1097)
Chieron (1102)
DeathNoteforCutie (1200)
JCan (1122 Tornadoli -> 1204)

Yakman: 1
Togee (1176)

JCan: 1
Tornadoli: (1119)

Day 6, pre-outing

Spoiler

Chieron: 5
Jacksonian Missionary (johho888 1245 -> Nautilu 1247 -> 1267)
spokyt (1269)
Eternaly_Lost (1286)
Yakman (1231 Luftwafer -> 1288)
johho888 (1300 Luftwafer -> 1306)

Jacksonian Missionary: 5
AVN (1270)
Tornadoli (1248 Luftwafer -> 1271)
Luftwafer (1252 JCan -> 1294)
JCan (1273)
Gen. Marshall (1301)

Luftwafer: 5
De Chatillon (1258)
Comm Cody (1260)
Nautilu (1275 JCan -> 1293)
happycats517 (1306)
Chieron (1309)

De Chatillon: 1
tamius23 (1287)

Not Voted:
Hazbot
DeathNoteForCutie
Mder1

Day 7

Spoiler

spokyt: 7
johho888 (1365 tamius23 -> 1374)
Tornadoli (1375)
DeathNoteforCutie (1382)
Luftwafer (1367 tamius23 -> 1401)
Nautilu (1411)
happycats517 (1412)
Comm Cody (1357 Chieron -> 1369 Luftwafer -> 1428)

Luftwafer: 5
Mder1 (1381)
Jacksonian Missionary (1356 JCan -> 1384)
De Chatillon (1388)
Gen. Marshall (1389)
Chieron (1407)

johho888: 3
Hazbot (1391)
JCan (1405)
spokyt (1408)

JCan: 1
tamius23 (1361)

Tornadoli: 1
Yakman (1354)

Day 8

Spoiler

tamius23: 7
Jacksonian Missionary (1452 JCan -> 1471 tamius23)
JCan (1476)
Comm Cody (1495)
Torndaoli (1480 Chieron -> 1500)
Nautilu (1503)
Mder1 (1515)
Chieron (1523)

Comm Cody: 7
Gen Marshall (1465 JCan -> 1473)
happycats517 (1493)
Hazbot (1496)
De Chatillon (1497)
DeathNoteforCutie (1470 tamius23 -> 1511)
Luftwafer (1519 Comm Cody -> 1533 tamius23 -> 1539)
tamius23 (1546)

Chieron: 1
johho888 (1466)

Day 9 - pre Outing

Spoiler

Gen Marshall: 5
Jacksonian Missionary (1565)
JCan (1568)
happycats517 (1581)
DeathNoteforCutie (1583)
Mder1 (1584)

happycats517: 3
Nautilu (1571)
Gen. Marshall (1589)
Chieron (1588 Nautilu -> 1592)

Nautilu: 1
De Chatillon (1567)

Mder1: 1
Tornadoli (1573 JCan -> 1587)

Not Voted
Hazbot
johho888

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

See, this is why people should listen to me when I say someone is a baddie. I've now hit on Cheiron, Lufty, and Tamius. Yet only one of my votes has led to them being lynched the original day.

 

[Tornadoli]

See, this is why people should listen to me when I say someone is a baddie. I've now hit on Cheiron, Lufty, and Tamius. Yet only one of my votes has led to them being lynched the original day.

Ok, what do you think about Mder? I'm pretty sure he is a baddie.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

Ok, what do you think about Mder? I'm pretty sure he is a baddie.

I think he's an awful candidate. He's put important votes on 3 yellows and 2 reds.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

Happycats is most certainly not a yellow, and I could see him as a red but definitely not the best candidate. All in all Marshall's defense of his accusations were very poor, and I don't really think he's any less wolfish now.

Vote Marshall

 

[Delta21]

Like someone said most of us has not been involved in lynching or smoking out reds. I looked at four new names as suggested above Nautilu, happycats, Marshall and Mder. Not going to type out everything on all days because with regards to reds the only days that matters (as far as we know are day 2 - mc in the running - and 3 - Delta lynched)

Nautilu:
made a throw-away on Delta day 2 but didn't follow it up on day 3 when he actually was lynched but instead chose CC. It was on day 3 that mc outed himself and called for unattached baddies. I guess Nautilu could fit with that. OTOH after Delta got lynched he suggested looking for who Delta snipe saved day 1 and it was AVN the eventual red cultist. He didn't follow up that euther but why bring up both AVN and Delta if he was a red?

happycats:
On day 2 was on Ike (villager) and on day 3 was a very late voter on Delta (red).

Marshall:
On day 2 was on Sleepy the yellow on day 3 jumped around on several alternative candidates against Delta the red. Day 3 could be seen as trying to save Delta but wouldn't that have been a bit obvious?

Mder:
On day 2 was on madchemist (red) and stayed there when mc was in the running the whole day. He himself was a candidate but still hard to see Mder and mc as packmates.

And I see Chieron is brought up again. IIRC I had him as fits with any pack when I looked at his case two days ago. Since no new info on reds have surfaced I guess that must still hold true.

If I were to rank them in order of most likely red I'd say Marshal, Chieron, happycats, Nautilu and Mder.

vote Gen. Marshall

So much Delta in this post. Yes, more ME!

 

[Tornadoli]

I think he's an awful candidate. He's put important votes on 3 yellows and 2 reds.

We are looking for reds now, so the votes on yellows are irrelevant. I can't find those 2 important votes on reds? His votes seem to either be throwaways, not present, or on villagers/yellows

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

We are looking for reds now, so the votes on yellows are irrelevant. I can't find those 2 important votes on reds? His votes seem to either be throwaways, not present, or on villagers/yellows

5th vote on MC and 10th on Delta.

 

[Delta21]

Delta.

More!

This ghost is pleased.

 

[Tornadoli]

5th vote on MC and 10th on Delta.

Your analysis seems to be pretty poor, is it possible that I've identified one of your packmates?

His votes are exactly consistent with a red wolf.

You are not giving the entire picture, you are trying to use "analysis" to manipulate the village. Let's see:

His 5th vote on MC was when the other alternative was Mder himself. Of course he is going to vote MC to save himself, the red pack doesn't want to lose two wolves. How suspicious would it be if he had not voted MC to preserve himself? Also, at this point, wasn't MC a dead man walking? Entirely consistent with a cover vote.

You can't seriously suggest mder's 10th vote on delta was an important/crucial one? This is exactly what a red wolf would do when he knows that his packmate is certain to die... maybe if second place has 8 or 9 votes, this vote could be considered important. But the second placed player had only 5 votes.

I'm convinced Mder is a wolf - if he is, I would seriously consider jacksonian to be his packmate because of this faulty "analysis".

 

[De Chatillôn]

I agree with Jackson, Mder's voting record fits really bad with the Red Pack. Also we can't reject the idea that we have a yellow wolf still out there. That no-hunt night we don't about could be a cursed one but obviously we're looking for reds better. My best candidate by far is Marshall, after Chieron didn't vote against him and looking his voting record that fits really well with the Red Pack. My other prime suspects looking his voting records are Happycats, Nautilu and JCan.

Vote Marshall

 

[Tornadoli]

I agree with Jackson, Mder's voting record fits really bad with the Red Pack.

How? Did you read my post? Or is it enough for one person to say the someone's voting record is good/bad, and everyone repeats it without double-checking?

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

His 5th vote on MC was when the other alternative was Mder himself. Of course he is going to vote MC to save himself, the red pack doesn't want to lose two wolves. How suspicious would it be if he had not voted MC to preserve himself? Also, at this point, wasn't MC a dead man walking? Entirely consistent with a cover vote.

He had other candidates to choose from, yet he chose MC. I don't see how he was a dead man walking, especially since by that time MC wasn't a dead man walking.

You can't seriously suggest mder's 10th vote on delta was an important/crucial one? This is exactly what a red wolf would do when he knows that his packmate is certain to die... maybe if second place has 8 or 9 votes, this vote could be considered important. But the second placed player had only 5 votes.

Fine, not an important vote, but not a damning one either.

I'm convinced Mder is a wolf - if he is, I would seriously consider jacksonian to be his packmate because of this faulty "analysis".

If I were a red, why would AVN try to kill me so hard? He obviously had nothing to gain from starting the ball. That notion is absurd.

Your analysis seems to be pretty poor, is it possible that I've identified one of your packmates?

Look how many wolves I've voted for, and how many you have. If anyone's analysis has been poor its been yourself. The only reason I've stopped myself from voting you is that you've been scanned.

 

[De Chatillôn]

How? Did you read my post? Or is it enough for one person to say the someone's voting record is good/bad, and everyone repeats it without double-checking?

I made the same analysis yesterday that Jacksonian. That 5th day Ike was lynched so seems more logic that Mder would vote against him and not against a packmate who was really really close for being lynched. Also MC wasn't a dead man then.

 

[Tornadoli]

He had other candidates to choose from, yet he chose MC. I don't see how he was a dead man walking, especially since by that time MC wasn't a dead man walking.

Wasn't that the day mc spoke to hazbot claiming seer? Wouldn't surprise me if he told his packmates to vote him if he wasn't in danger to provide cover.

Also, look at that day (Day 2) again. Look at whom delta is voting. He is voting his packmate AVN. Why couldn't Mder vote MC that same day?

Look how many wolves I've voted for, and how many you have. If anyone's analysis has been poor its been yourself. The only reason I've stopped myself from voting you is that you've been scanned.

I checked your vote record again. You haven't voted a single red wolf in the entire game. Not a single one.

In fact, Day 1: you are second voter on Wagonlitz when AVN (red wolf) was a viable candidate.

Day 2: You vote the villager Emperor_Ike. Who was second place that day who narrowly avoided getting lynched? Mder. How convenient.

Day 3: You vote comm cody instead of the red wolf Delta.

Day 4&5 : throwaway votes. No known red wolves in danger.

Day 6: You vote Chieron, the master. Likely that you didn't know he was the master + self preservation.

Day 7 &8: you vote yellow wolves. Fair enough, I give it to you that you are not a likely yellow wolf.

Day 9 pre outing: you vote marshall, unknown.


Your vote record is atrocious if we just want to show that you are a red wolf. In fact, you and mder being red packmates would fit perfectly in both your vote records.

 

[De Chatillôn]

AVN created a case in order to lynch Jacksonian his last day before he was outed. I think Jackson is one of the worse candidates for being part of the Red Pack too.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

I agree with Jackson, Mder's voting record fits really bad with the Red Pack. Also we can't reject the idea that we have a yellow wolf still out there. That no-hunt night we don't about could be a cursed one but obviously we're looking for reds better. My best candidate by far is Marshall, after Chieron didn't vote against him and looking his voting record that fits really well with the Red Pack. My other prime suspects looking his voting records are Happycats, Nautilu and JCan.

Vote Marshall

Aren't you forgetting something?

 

[npstr]

Ayy @Rendap, I'll help myself to some of that crispy popcorn of yours if you don't mind.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

I checked your vote record again. You haven't voted a single red wolf in the entire game. Not a single one.

You forget I was almost killed by a red (AVN), therefore making me quite unlikely to be a red, especially since there were other candidates up for voting. How about we break down your piss poor voting record?

Day 1: Aedan the villager
Day 2: MC (who, by your definition, you shouldn't get any goodie points since he was "a dead man walking"
Day 3: Euro the obvious villager
Day 4: Euro the obvious villager again
Day 5: Throwaway on JCan the unknown
Day 6: Me the villager (after switching off of Lufty the wolf. Looking bad there)
Day 7: Spockyt the villager
Day 8: Tamius the yellow
Day 9: Throwaway on Mder.

So by your logic, only points you get are for voting Tamius. Congrats you fit well with the red pack.

Also, my day 4 and 5 votes are not throwaways you moron.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

*facepalm*

Everyone here fits well with the red pack. The fact that you're all looking at voting records while we're potentially looking at 2 cursed players is counterproductive at best.