Werewolf CXCIX: Invasion of the Cybermen

[Mder1]

That was the reason I said it is a 'BAD EXAMPLE'.

 

[Yakman]

That was the reason I said it is a 'BAD EXAMPLE'.

There's a reason I read every other word of most posts.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

I think there is a decent case against Luftwafer, however I don't like the current bandwagon on him. So I like to find another candidate to run up with him. Preferably one with a bad voting record.
JCan and Chieron have both one vote at the moment. Of them JCan has a terrible vote record with going after confirmed goodies and an unknown. So yes he qualifies.
Chieron helped in lynching Delta with a significant vote and voted against Kaisensohaib. That looks like he's a goodie.

Then I also had a look at the other candidates Jacksonian Missionary proposes with his analysis.
He voted today first for Johho and then for Nautilu.
Johho helped in lynching a wolf of both packs. Nautilu voted for Delta and help in the lynching of Kaisensohaib. Both are more likely goodie than baddie.

So Jacksonian is proposing candidates which are more likely goodie than baddie. Why ? Is he trying to lead the village in the wrong direction with bad analysis ?
I certainly have the feeling he's doing that and the only reason for such behaviour is that he's a baddie.

Vote Jacksonian Missionary

Joho was an emotion filled vote that I quickly realized was bad. Naut didn't help in the slightest in lynching Kai and it hurts my brains that people think he did. You are looking past my case on Cheiron even though he fits very well with the yellows. I'm sorry to inform you that voting has more than just voting records, but that's how the game is played.

Jumping from case to case, going for a tie this early

If I see multiple candidates I like, then yes I'm going to go for a tie. Terrible logic.

More on topic; Jackson has spent this game calling everyone idiots, after the fact, without putting in any relevant effort himself. That's of course highly suspicious, but since he has a lot of recent wolf games to analyse, I'd like to look at those first before voting.

I'm putting in effort, I don't know what else you want me to do besides making my cases and voting. Unless you really wanted me to run up Togee and Euro.

The behavior of Jacksonian is more suspesious. His vote on me clearly reeks of lazy research on my voting history. The question is why. Was he just being lazy and hoping to get away a vote on someone or was that a plot to drive attention away.

Lazy? That's absurd. I looked at your vote history and saw you made a throwaway on a red and that you are unlikely a yellow with voting Kai. That one vote looks more like an alibi vote than anything.

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

I will also say that is very common that wolves will vote their packmates who aren't in danger on day 1 for alibi votes later on, which is a good part of my vote Cheiron that AVN seems to have ignored.

 

[Nautilu]

Jacksonian a throw away vote is a vote for a candidate that has no chance of being lynched. I put two viable wolf candidates on the board early on and I am damn proud of this.

I vote early around 6:00am EST every day, and so according to you this is a sign of wolfishness.
Would you care to engligten me who I should have voted on day 2 and day 4 to appear less suspicious to you?

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

I will also say that is very common that wolves will vote their packmates who aren't in danger on day 1 for alibi votes later on, which is a good part of my vote Cheiron that AVN seems to have ignored.

Not only do I agree, but Chieron's voting record does support he is a Mondas wolf. He is a very, very unlikely wolf of the other pack.

So, I am going to join the vote on him.

Vote Chieron

 

[tamius23]

Although I'm a fan of running up Lufty, he has plenty of votes as it is. Given I managed to attract a fair few people to vote Cody the second time he was run up, I'd like to see if the same will occur with De Chat, whose posts I thought sounded very wolfish (I called him out a few pages back.)

Again, I can't be sure whether I'll be around for the deadline tonight. I can tell you I will definitely miss tomorrow's, though.

Vote De Chat

 

[Yakman]

unvote luftwafer
vote cheiron

double lynch? can we do that?

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

I won't be around for the deadline I believe, and I urge a Cheiron and Lufty tie today.

 

[Luftwafer]

Can we get a vote count?

 

[Team Wombat]

Votecount (3.5 hrs to deadline)​

Chieron: 4
Jacksonian Missionary (johho 1245 -> Naut 1247 -> 1267)
spockyt (1269)
Eternaly Lost (1286)
Yakman (1231 Luftwafer -> 1288)

Jacksonian Missionary: 2
AVN (1270)
Tornadoli (1248 Luftwafer -> 1271)

Luftwafer: 2
De Chatillon (1258)
Comm Cody (1260)

JCan: 2
Luftwafer (1252)
Nautilu (1275)

De Chatillon: 1
tamius23 (1287)

Not voted: many peeps

 

[Jacksonian Missionary]

Jacksonian a throw away vote is a vote for a candidate that has no chance of being lynched. I put two viable wolf candidates on the board early on and I am damn proud of this.

I will give you that it wasn't a throwaway, but you get no goodie points for voting him and then failing to kill him.

 

[Nautilu]

Unvote JCan Vote Luft
We have a few hours to go why not consolidate. I still think JCan is suspicious but with the vote spread so thin the wolfs have more leverage to change it.

 

[Luftwafer]

I agree with this sentiment, a large split vote like this is dangerous.
Jackson has been erratic and has a poor voting record.

UNVOTE JCAN
VOTE JACKSON

 

[Wagonlitz]

You guys are aware we have day 1 and this is just shm voting?

 

[npstr]

You guys are aware we have day 1 and this is just shm voting?

You are aware you are in the wrong thread? ^^

 

[Wagonlitz]

You are aware you are in the wrong thread? ^^

Must have misclicked from the subscriptions page. Well I'm an idiot then.

 

[johho888]

Right, lets look at the prime candidates and see what they've been up to

Chieron:
Day 1 - throw-away on kai (yellow) - not handing out goodie nor baddie points for this
Day 2 - in the tight race between Sleepy (yellow) and madchemist (red) voted Mder (unknown) - so could fit with either pack
Day 3 - 5th voter on Delta (red) - I think Delta might still have been possible to save at this time so some weak goodie points as non-red
Day 4 - In the TIE that lynched Kai (yellow) voted Euro (villager) and was the one that made the TIE - no goodie points here
Day 5 - voted Wagon2 (villager) in race against Togee (villager) and Luftwafer (unknown)

Especially the day 2 doesn't look good. More likely to be yellow than red.

Jackson:
Day 1 - lynched Wagon1 (villager)
Day 2 - jumped around from tamius (unknown) via Euro (villager) to Ike (villager) in the tight race between Sleepy (yellow) and madchemist (red)
Day 3 - voted CC (unknown) when we ended up lynching a red wolf
Day 4 - In the race between kai (yellow) and Euro (villager) voted Audren the seer
Day 5 - voted Wagon2 (villager) in race against Togee (villager) and Luftwafer (unknown)

Day 2 looking really bad, supporting almost every viable candidate except the wolves. Could fit with any pack.

Luftwafer:
Day 1 - throw-away on zombie Wagon2
Day 2 - voted AVN (unknown) in the tight race between Sleepy (yellow) and madchemist (red)
Day 3 - Still on AVN (unknown)
Day 4 - In the TIE that lynched Kai (yellow) voted Euro (villager)
Day 5 - voted by 6 unknowns and aedan (villager), voted Togee (villager) to save himself

Especially the day 2 doesn't look good.

JCan
Day 1 - voted AVN (unknown), not throw-away
Day 2 - throw-away on Euro (villager) in the tight race between Sleepy (yellow) and madchemist (red)
Day 3 - jumping around from Mder (unknown) via CC (unknown) to Euro (villager) when we lynched Delta (red)
Day 4 - In the TIE that lynched Kai (yellow) voted Euro (villager)
Day 5 - voted Wagon2 (villager) in race against Togee (villager) and Luftwafer (unknown)

Both day 2 and 3 look bad

De Chatillon:
Day 1 - vote Spockyt (unknown)
Day 2 - voted madchemist (red) so unlikely red
Day 3 - no vote because setting up a sniper shot
Day 4 - In the race between kai (yellow) and Euro (villager) voted Audren the seer
Day 5 - voted Luftwafer 8unknown) against Togee (villager)

Seems to me to be by far the worst candidate of the five candidates with 2+ votes (at the time I started to write this)

 

[Team Wombat]

Votecount (2 hrs to deadline)​

Chieron: 4
Jacksonian Missionary (johho 1245 -> Naut 1247 -> 1267)
spockyt (1269)
Eternaly Lost (1286)
Yakman (1231 Luftwafer -> 1288)

Jacksonian Missionary: 4
AVN (1270)
Tornadoli (1248 Luftwafer -> 1271)
Luftwafer (1252 JCan -> 1294)
JCan (1273)

Luftwafer: 3
De Chatillon (1258)
Comm Cody (1260)
Nautilu (1275 JCan -> 1293)

De Chatillon: 1
tamius23 (1287)

Not Voted:
@Hazbot
@johho888
@happycats517
@DeathNoteForCutie
@Mder1
@Gen. Marshall
@Chieron

 

[johho888]

Right I should vote. Analysis said I should go for JCan or Jackson but support for JCan has disappeared and I don't really get baddie vibes from Jackson so I'll go for #3 (I consider Chieron #4 in terms of shadiness) and

vote Luftwafer