Werewolf CXCIV: There is No Game

[Wagonlitz]

So you think I'm a baddie but you still want to kill the person who outed me? Even on holidays you put in a full day at the idiot mine.

I believe the outing is genuine, since otherwise you would have tried defending yourself more. On the other hand kai is suspicious as hell given how he claimed not knowing it was Christmas despite talking about Christmas earlier in the day yesterday... Additionally even if it isn't Christmas you normally don't out that late and kai knows that; furthermore the seer was hunted immediately after contacting kai to out you.

 

[k-59]

I believe the outing is genuine, since otherwise you would have tried defending yourself more. On the other hand kai is suspicious as hell given how he claimed not knowing it was Christmas despite talking about Christmas earlier in the day yesterday... Additionally even if it isn't Christmas you normally don't out that late and kai knows that; furthermore the seer was hunted immediately after contacting kai to out you.

You want a possible JL spokesmen killed because he is wishy-washy on his attitude about Christmas??? And I thought the "funny hunt" thing was bad. The seer getting killed is fair point, clearly Kai is making me the fall guy for him hunting Kiwi.

 

[Wagonlitz]

You want a possible JL spokesmen killed because he is wishy-washy on his attitude about Christmas??? And I thought the "funny hunt" thing was bad. The seer getting killed is fair point, clearly Kai is making me the fall guy for him hunting Kiwi.

His story doesn't hold; he claimed not to have known it was Christmas---which is a fair point since he is a Muslim. But earlier in the day yesterday he participated in a Christmas discussion hence he must have known it was Christmas so his explanation simply doesn't hold.

 

[De Chatillôn]

His story doesn't hold; he claimed not to have known it was Christmas---which is a fair point since he is a Muslim. But earlier in the day yesterday he participated in a Christmas discussion hence he must have known it was Christmas so his explanation simply doesn't hold.

You don't need to look elsewhere. In the same outing kaiser said "In such a festive moment" or something similar.

 

[Kaisersohaib]

What a dumb argument, yes I terribly messed up the outing, but Christmas remains something I forget and ignore every year. Me participating in a discussion about it on an online forum won't alert me the whole day about it, and when I did realize, it was too late.
I hate to agree with a confirmed wolf, but the fact that you want to shoot a member of the j-L (as incompetent as his actions may have been) is stupid.

 

[Kaisersohaib]

Also, did I vote already?

VOTE K-59

 

[Wagonlitz]

Me participating in a discussion about it on an online forum won't alert me the whole day about it, and when I did realize, it was too late.

Kiwi was on when you talked about Christmas; so it seems unbelievable that you and him didn't talk about when to out. Kiwi is really meticulous and surely would have pointed out that you shouldn't out too late due to Christmas; and even in a normal game 5 minutes to deadline is way too late unless there is really high activity up to deadline.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

a member of the j-L

Are you though? Unless the Priest also contacted you (which would be... interesting) I don't think you are.

 

[Kaisersohaib]

Teaching me how to out will not undo what happened, Wagon. All that I needed to say has been said, and all that you asked me to answer, I did. The only thing you can do is wait until deadline, so that it reveals that K-59 is a wolf, therefore clearing me; unless you still believe in that Kai=Cultist scenario, which is very unlikely and wouldn't have brought any benefits to a pack, even less to an unattached cultist.

 

[k-59]

Kiwi was on when you talked about Christmas; so it seems unbelievable that you and him didn't talk about when to out. Kiwi is really meticulous and surely would have pointed out that you shouldn't out too late due to Christmas; and even in a normal game 5 minutes to deadline is way too late unless there is really high activity up to deadline.

So if his outing is moronic even for a normal game, how does the Christmas thing make him more suspicious?

 

[Kaisersohaib]

Are you though? Unless the Priest also contacted you (which would be... interesting) I don't think you are.

I should be the Priest's top scan priority for tonight.

 

[Wagonlitz]

so that it reveals that K-59 is a wolf, therefore clearing me;

No you most certainly won't be cleared no matter k-59's role. I really hope all important goodies are smart enough to realise this.

which is very unlikely and wouldn't have brought any benefits to a pack, even less to an unattached cultist.

How id you being cultist very unlikely? And as a baddie you don't have any choise if you are asked to out; if you don't do it you get outed yourself.

So if his outing is moronic even for a normal game, how does the Christmas thing make him more suspicious?

Because he claimed he messed up due to Christmas; which is really unlikely as I have pointed out.
And as mentioned I don't see Kiwi not specifying when kai should out meaning that kai most likely disregarded that.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

So if his outing is moronic even for a normal game, how does the Christmas thing make him more suspicious?

Shut up.

I should be the Priest's top scan priority for tonight.

Hate to say it, but there's no way to know if you were even in contact with Kiwi, so you could still be a wolf of the were variety. Unless you want to cite him being hunted as proof...

 

[k-59]

No you most certainly won't be cleared no matter k-59's role. I really hope all important goodies are smart enough to realise this.

Wagon confirmed for wolf.

Because he claimed he messed up due to Christmas; which is really unlikely as I have pointed out.
And as mentioned I don't see Kiwi not specifying when kai should out meaning that kai most likely disregarded that.

No, he said he didn't realize Christmas eve would change people's activity levels. But as you said, outing someone 5 minutes to deadline is a screw up every day of the year.

Shut up.

Marshall is also a wolf, clearly.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Wagon confirmed for wolf.

How so? The bloody seer died the instant he spoke to kai; remember?

No, he said he didn't realize Christmas eve would change people's activity levels. But as you said, outing someone 5 minutes to deadline is a screw up every day of the year.

Except it was talked about when kai participated that people would be occupied with Christmas in the evening.
And as mentioned kiwi is one of the most meticulous people here; and he most certainly will know what Christmas is even if kai don't---which I doubt. Just because he doesn't celebrate it shouldn't mean he doesn't know it is a big thing for most people.

So you are saying that kiwi, who was online when kai talked about Christmas, since I talked with kiwi about Christmas, stepped really out of character and didn't tell kai to out early?

 

[k-59]

Except it was talked about when kai participated that people would be occupied with Christmas in the evening.
And as mentioned kiwi is one of the most meticulous people here; and he most certainly will know what Christmas is even if kai don't---which I doubt. Just because he doesn't celebrate it shouldn't mean he doesn't know it is a big thing for most people.

So you are saying that kiwi, who was online when kai talked about Christmas, since I talked with kiwi about Christmas, stepped really out of character and didn't tell kai to out early?

Your mythical trust in Kiwi is touching.

 

[k-59]

And dead.

 

[happycats517]

Deadline

 

[k-59]

Geez, my ghost color is way too close to the GM's. Better change to this one.

 

[happycats517]

Feliz Navidad and Happy Holidays. Lazy flavor is lazy as I want to get back to watching Christmas movies with my little sister.

Day 4
k-59 the framer wolf of the orange pack was lynched

Night 4
kaisersohaib the one eye open villager was hunted . . .
but he took Jacksonian Missionary the brutal wolf of the red pack with him