Werewolf CLXXXVIII: Werewolf Live

[k-59]

It would be nice if you could address who wrote what.

I was reading it as just alternating and it made sense. In anycase, there is no reason a goodie should be sniffing for the names of the buddies. As such

Unvote Ironhead Vote Hazbot

Until more information is given.

 

[AvatarOfKhaine]

Um, well take the first "PM" to be Haz, alternate to me and alternate from there.

I can't really edit the post now sorry as that would be highly suspicious.

 

[AvatarOfKhaine]

Anyways, I want to see if Hazbot was actually the spy pretending to be a proxy or if we can flush the erstwhile spy out regardless:

VOTE HAZBOT

 

[aedan777]

So you're claiming to be a buddy, and were contacted by Hazbot asking for the names of your buddies because he was asked to by a spy. One of your buddies then said Kiwi was a spy, and so you went to the thread accusing Kiwi of being a spy and trying to kill you? I don't know why you'd go off on that tenuous link, when Hazbot is the immediate one in issue. And this seems too complex and stupid to be made up.

Unvote AvatarofKhaine Vote Hazbot

 

[Hax]

Hazbot said you were a buddie and asked for the other two buddies? Am I correct?

Another spy had asked Hazbot to ask you Avatar?

 

[happycats517]

Unvote AvatarOfKhaine

Also, to people voting Hazbot, he's new and just got subbed so I highly doubt he put together a whole strategy of pretending to be a proxy to a spy while actually being the spy. Also, he's currently our only source of information and lynching him probably helps the spy dispose of his loose ends without getting his hands dirty.

 

[tamius23]

Can't see Avatar as our best bet for a lynch after that.

Vote Hazbot

 

[k-59]

Unvote AvatarOfKhaine

Also, to people voting Hazbot, he's new and just got subbed so I highly doubt he put together a whole strategy of pretending to be a proxy to a spy while actually being the spy. Also, he's currently our only source of information and lynching him probably helps the spy dispose of his loose ends without getting his hands dirty.

The spy could be his packmate.....

 

[happycats517]

The spy could be his packmate.....

He could, but he also could be an innocent goodie being used by a baddie and by lynching him we're letting the spy get away.

 

[Team Wombat]

Hazbot subbed for EUROO7, correct?

 

[AvatarOfKhaine]

Hazbot said you were a buddie and asked for the other two buddies? Am I correct?

Another spy had asked Hazbot to ask you Avatar?

That is correct, and I originally assumed the spy to be Kiwi, but realised that didn't really work.

Any other questions about the PM chain?

 

[Hazbot]

All right then, I suppose my own inexperience and stupidity has gotten me into this mess, so I might as well recount things as honestly as possibly.

I am a villager spy, and I spied on AvatarofKhaine last night as they seemed to be acting suspiciously in previous nights. The results suggested two things 1. that AvatarofKhaine was one of the buddies and 2. that he may be a wolf. Since buddies are not limited to villagers, I wanted to see if I could get into contact with the other buddies to confirm or deny the possibility of a forgery, since the buddies would know for sure.

Since the buddies still win with their respective sides, I figured it would be in their best interests to clarify the issue so that I could know for sure whether Avatar is a wolf or not. I pretended to be a bit clueless about everything to see if I could get any information but clearly I could not, and I only managed to get myself further into trouble.

 

[AvatarOfKhaine]

All right then, I suppose my own inexperience and stupidity has gotten me into this mess, so I might as well recount things as honestly as possibly.

I am a villager spy, and I spied on AvatarofKhaine last night as they seemed to be acting suspiciously in previous nights. The results suggested two things 1. that AvatarofKhaine was one of the buddies and 2. that he may be a wolf. Since buddies are not limited to villagers, I wanted to see if I could get into contact with the other buddies to confirm or deny the possibility of a forgery, since the buddies would know for sure.

Since the buddies still win with their respective sides, I figured it would be in their best interests to clarify the issue so that I could know for sure whether Avatar is a wolf or not. I pretended to be a bit clueless about everything to see if I could get any information but clearly I could not, and I only managed to get myself further into trouble.

So, who do you think we should lynch then if not you?

 

[aedan777]

All right then, I suppose my own inexperience and stupidity has gotten me into this mess, so I might as well recount things as honestly as possibly.

I am a villager spy, and I spied on AvatarofKhaine last night as they seemed to be acting suspiciously in previous nights. The results suggested two things 1. that AvatarofKhaine was one of the buddies and 2. that he may be a wolf. Since buddies are not limited to villagers, I wanted to see if I could get into contact with the other buddies to confirm or deny the possibility of a forgery, since the buddies would know for sure.

Since the buddies still win with their respective sides, I figured it would be in their best interests to clarify the issue so that I could know for sure whether Avatar is a wolf or not. I pretended to be a bit clueless about everything to see if I could get any information but clearly I could not, and I only managed to get myself further into trouble.

Post your spy result that you claim suggests Avatar is a buddy and a wolf.

 

[Hazbot]

So, who do you think we should lynch then if not you?

With all due respects, since I haven't had anything to dispel my suspicions, you.

unvote Ithvan
vote AvatarofKhaine

 

[k-59]

All right then, I suppose my own inexperience and stupidity has gotten me into this mess, so I might as well recount things as honestly as possibly.

I am a villager spy, and I spied on AvatarofKhaine last night as they seemed to be acting suspiciously in previous nights. The results suggested two things 1. that AvatarofKhaine was one of the buddies and 2. that he may be a wolf. Since buddies are not limited to villagers, I wanted to see if I could get into contact with the other buddies to confirm or deny the possibility of a forgery, since the buddies would know for sure.

Since the buddies still win with their respective sides, I figured it would be in their best interests to clarify the issue so that I could know for sure whether Avatar is a wolf or not. I pretended to be a bit clueless about everything to see if I could get any information but clearly I could not, and I only managed to get myself further into trouble.

Huh you are right that buddies are a trait not a role in this game. That complicates things.

 

[Hazbot]

Post your spy result that you claim suggests Avatar is a buddy and a wolf.

Thunder storm outside and the rain is pouring down like no tomorrow. It's even worse than the first day. You put on your raincoat knowing it's not going to be worth anything in such a weather and head out.

You walk down fence street and arrive at his house. You can hardly see a thing so you go closer to the window. You whipe your eye, but it doesn't really help. You are lucky, it seems avatar is out tonight, so you quickly make your way into the room.

You systematically start searching the room. The drawers contain nothing really, some underpants, socks, nothing special. You search the bathroom, well it seems he gave a lot for hygiene and is well groomed. You also see lot's of razors in the cupboard.
On the floor scattered around are mainly magazines, fashion predominantly and a few sports.

In the living room you find his wallett, it contains pictures of his parents and a cute girl. Girlfriend or sister probably. There is also a picture with him standing with two other fellow, it's an old picture and he was much younger on it. Probably his brothers.

You feel you've overstayed your welcome. You pull the hood over your head and make your way home.

Picture of three people and an overabundance of razors caught my eye.

 

[Hax]

He could, but he also could be an innocent goodie being used by a baddie and by lynching him we're letting the spy get away.

As I have nothing to hide I can say that I'm the spy that has been in contact with EURO/Hazbot but I didn't ask him to ask for the other buddies.

 

[Capt. Kiwi]

So let me get this straight Kiwi, as a spy you're using proxies to ferret out the buddies and decide to try lynching of the people you think is a buddie?

Also, as I understand Gen. Skobelev so far, he spent a post analysing a dead man's voting record and decides at the end to lynch me? If nothing else can I please have a better case that doesn't amount to "I have a feeling"?

Going from the insane amounts of cloak&dagger Kiwi is doing via PM and then deciding to go against what he is trying to find out behind the scenes makes me think that you fit the Transylvania pack better.

As such:

VOTE CAPT KIWI

I should probably explain my accusations against Capt. Kiwi with a bit of the PMs that I accused him of being behind:

So, very early today I received a PM from Hazbot that read as follows:

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Hello! So, I have taken over the spot of one of this game's players and as usual with people joining halfway into something, I think I may be somewhat confused by the ... everything that's going on.

So apparently the person who previously played had an ongoing correspondence with a spy, and the person whose job I took over seemingly went around and asked people the questions that the spy wanted to ask them (they told me it's because it's not safe for them, I wouldn't know, this is my first game of Werewolf). So, this spy (who has asked me to withhold naming them on pain of getting lynched immediately) seems to think that you are one of the three buddies (I don't know why they think this, they seemed not to trust the last player very much and refused to quote the message they got for me too), and has asked me to ask you whether you could provide me with the names of the other buddies. Of course they didn't tell me why they need them, just that they do.

If you could answer before the deadline (as they asked me to tell you to) that would be fantastic.

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I was curious at first and thought it over, and after talking it over with my buddies, some of whom had also been accused by a spy who had found them out. One of them name-dropped Capt Kiwi as being the spy who had starting chasing after them.

I then saw people start to vote me, I then posted my thing in which I claim Capt. Kiwi was the spy using Hazbot. After realising that he would need to be playing a very deep game to be trying to press me for buddy info and also be lynching me I realised that Kiwi probably wasn't the spy controlling Hazbot. Thinking on this I sent the following reply to Hazbot:


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Well, sorry to be unable to help you, but I'm not one of the buddies.

If you don't mind me asking, why do you need the names of the buddies? If I understand the rules right the buddies are meant to be a secret mini-council helping the village. Don't we as villagers want them to remain secret?

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It had seemed wolfish to me to be asking after the buddies and I believe as I stated in the reply that I thought the buddies were meant to be a semi-JL missing a seer. I also lied claiming not to be a buddy to see what reaction that would garner. Hazbot eventually sent this in reply:

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I'm not entirely sure, as I've stated before I haven't played Werewolf much (at all actually) previously, so I'm really just doing what the previous player seemed to be doing. If it looks like whoever asked me to ask you means harm then I'll probably just go ahead and stop communicating with them, does it seem that way?

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Maybe I'm just terrible at reading things like this but this to me is slightly wolfish, and gave me the feeling that even if Hazbot was innocent that the spy controlling him was a wolf.

After reading all this, I realise that Capt Kiwi is likely not a wolf-spy trying to lynch the buddy he is pressing for information. I personally think that either aedan or Hax are likely wolves with Hax being a wolf spy or falsifying reports from a different wolf/spy. However I am not completely sure on any of the current cases(bar the one based on my idiotic mistakes in voting.) so for now I will simpy:

UNVOTE CAPT KIWI

 

[AvatarOfKhaine]

With all due respects, since I haven't had anything to dispel my suspicions, you.

unvote Ithvan
vote AvatarofKhaine

And also with all due respects, even trying to play extra clueless still makes me suspicious of you.