Werewolf CLXXVI: Village of the Damned

[LatinKaiser]

im done fuck all yall lynch me whatever i dont care

Oh no...

Guess we shouldn't lynch him then...

 

[Gorganslayer]

Why is the village running up the only people who seem to have any idea whats going on?
Unless I've missed something....
Unvote Sleepyhead
VOTE grim pagan

 

[Lemeard]

I just realised something.

Old Soldiers: Good. These three players fought together in the war long ago, and trust each other completely. But if two of them die, the third one will harden his heart and become a free agent Cultist.

Who might they be? If they are playing together to win, and the group happens to include EURO and Wagon (or maybe even Cliges), that might explain a few things...

We have a Village Martyr too, right? Was it Xarkan who claimed it?

 

[reis91]

I'm more bewildered myself.

I just remembered why I hate leaders so much. What point is there to be a villager in a game when you can't even lynch someone?

vote Cliges and randakar and Hax and marty and EURO and Wagon and maybe a few more

I have to agree with Johho here.

 

[reis91]

I'd like to bring this to your attention:

Leader: Once per game, may declare that someone else will be hanged instead of the mob's choice. He may not use his ability when he himself is the target of the lynch, and the person he selects for the lynch must have at least two votes. Using this ability will always reveal him as a Leader.

Randakar:
THE_SPLIT
Olaus Petrus
Gorganslayer

So, add a few more suspects to the enormous list we already have...

And EURO, we want the whole story, now that randakar has been cleaned. Spill the beans.

 

[Rovsea]

I just realised something.



Who might they be? If they are playing together to win, and the group happens to include EURO and Wagon (or maybe even Cliges), that might explain a few things...

We have a Village Martyr too, right? Was it Xarkan who claimed it?

Yes, we have at least one village martyr, and Xarkan claimed to be the Village Martyr.

Besides the Wolves, Vampires, Villagers, and Seer, no role is guaranteed to be included in the game. The GM decides how many there are to be of each role and then hands them out before the game starts. Significant changes in green.

• Villager: Good. Has no special abilities.

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  As to the Old Soldiers, this could still apply, although since IR5 dredged them up, I assume that they're probably around here somewhere. Are the Old Soldiers aware of their compatriots (do all three start with knowledge of each other), or not? Or is that not-to-be-disclosed?

 

[Dr.Livingstone]

I'm sorry to say, but Euro needs to be lynched. This last blunder of his is just too spectacular otherwise. Its a shame too, I was starting to have doubts.

Vote Euro

 

[k-59]

Sleepy is the mold?

Which color mold is he?

@GM: Does this means a seer can scan for both werewolves and vampires or that a seer can only scan for werewolves or vampires. If it's the latter do the seer(s) know that is how it works?

Damn English's lack of an exclusive "or"

Why is the village running up the only people who seem to have any idea whats going on?
Unless I've missed something....
Unvote Sleepyhead
VOTE grim pagan

Because most of what's been going on is dead goodies?

 

[al-Aziz]

Wow!

I'll just return to CAWZ/others being lame if that's all right with you all.

Vote Yakman

And to the person to whose PM I could not respond: I don't have any thoughts and sure, let us do so. I don't have restless until tomorrow night though. Try to clear your PM box.

Oh and Wagon was not out last night.

I have my doubts, but I assume Hax and EURO are all right because only one of them can be a baddie, not both. (My spying and only one no hunt.) This means that I trust both of them because they are together.

Wait. It's a good thing I checked the thread before posting this. Oh crap. My brain just exploded. This means either could be a (turned) member of the pack not scannable by their seer. And double scanned people need to be quadruple scanned (because I'm assuming we have double priests as well).

Since we have two goodie scanners I reckon we have two sorcs for two powers as well. So be careful with scans because of obfuscation.

Now that I know EURO and Hax are the only or primary mediums through which crucial information is traveling, I don't know about lynching either. A liar spokesperson is worse than none at all though, especially if we need information to be valid.

Somewhat relatedly, I would like the full story from EURO (and would from Hax, but there is no story from him):

1) Who leaked Oristoles?
2) What was all of this about giving different stories to different people?
3) Why did you lie about a witness to the village? Was Cliges the leader you were talking about?
3) Why did you suspect randy enough to leader lynch him?
4) Why did you vote and place suspicion on Sleepy then immediately tell us off him?
5) Why don't you want these guys lynched?
6) What did you tell Hax that made him trust you?

We know neither Hax nor EURO can be original wolves because of my spying (but you should not trust me too easily- I trust my scans but you might not want to) but either could be turned.

I have a handy list thingy:

Option 1: Neither of them was turned. Tok bad we can't assume this.
Option 2: Hax is turned Vampire OR EURO is turned Wolf.
The other's seer can scan.
Option 3: Hax is turned Wolf OR EURO is turned Vampire
Their own seer can scan them again.

Either way, we don't actually need to lynch either of them now.

Wagonlitz is a different matter, but I trust the JLJ somewhat, so I'm going to stay with Yakman.

So anyway, sorry for being a bit disorganized with this, but I hope it makes sense. And I hope EURO responds. :angry:

 

[madchemist]

I've said he does not. It was a fabrication to try to catch the mole. It worked, but not to find the baddie mole. Only to show that people should place more trust in me than they currently do. To do otherwise has proven lethal.

Whatever you've done, EURO, it's been horribly managed, if you are on the village's side. I'll leave it at that for now.

He's right. There's not much more I can do than repeat what he said, but it's almost guaranteed that there are more than one legitimate JLs in existence, and that there are probably even more on the way.

This seems too far-fetched to be the truth, but it's so far-fetched that I doubt a wolfpack would make up a lie like this.

Kaisersohaib contacts me with the word "serial killer". I find this a likely baddie password.

Bonus PM, Citizen answering a post I made:

There, that's all I have that isn't already posted. I'm a clean my inbox now and shake it off as Panzer Commader would.

Interesting. I'm game to try either of those.

MC, remember, this is euro we are talking about. He's hideously competent at being a deliberate saboteur and sowing chaos.

VOTE EURO

I am well aware of EURO's capacity for evil, thank you very much.

Vote Wagonlitz

We need a second contender as Euro could be sorc protected.

This is an excellent point in general: from this time on, we need to try to make sure, as best as possible, that the top two candidates are good choices for a lynch.

Stuff

My goodness.

More stuff

Seriously?

That's literally the least credible Justice League ever.

Yes.

Cliges you buffoon!

At this stage I'm beginning to bank my hopes on the packs fighting it out while I stand by helpless until everyone else is dead. That may be the only option.

That's how I'm feeling right now. I'd almost rather have no JL than this mess.

So... you're an unattached cultist? :ninja:

Read the rules - cultists start attached.

Don't you trust me? :laugh:

As Euro wrote there seems to be two seers in this game. One that scan werewolves and another one that can scan vampires. However this is a bit contradicting with the rules but there are so much stuff that points towards this theory.

I can kinda believe this. Maybe. Still doesn't explain the leak or any of that mess, but fine.

Luckily, we shouldn't have that problem (yet) anyway. We don't have any dead seers. We might have incompetent seers and untrustworthy JL members, but at least they're still alive!

True.



OK, so this mess is just too insane for me to make any actual sense of it. But for this to be a baddie gambit requires even more suspension of disbelief on my part than to believe that the incompetent JL(s?) have finally managed to get their separate acts together and actually have somewhat of a handle on things at last.

Accordingly, I'm going with this. We are not lynching EURO, Hax, Sleepy, or Wagon today. Which means I need to find someone else.

Vote Rovsea

Placeholder, for now.

 

[Cliges]

3) Why did you suspect randy enough to leader lynch him?

I could answer that, but I'll leave it to others due to JL security concerns.

 

[reis91]

So, as far as what I can gather from this mess, we should either lynch EURO or lynch one of his "cleared" targets, if we are to make any sense out of this. I don't see any other way.

And I call BS on the two seers scanning for different packs crap. It would make the baddies quite overpowered (could be argued that the Restless would balance things but they are not really so much reliable without further information.

 

[Ironhead 5]

Official Vote Count (14 hours 32 minutes until deadline)

Spoiler

EUROO7: 15
GrimPagan
Hax
Rovsea
the_hdk
LatinKaiser
Slinky*
THE_SPLIT
Lemeard
J. Passepartout*
Sedracus*
Raczynski
tamius23
The Super Pope
Nautilu
Dr.Livingstone

Sleepyhead: 4
k-59
skynet464
Adamus*
Sand3r205

Wagonlitz: 2
aedan777
Sleepyhead

Cliges: 1
johho888

Dadarian: 1
Xarkan**

al-Aziz: 1
Dadarian

Hax: 1
DutchGuy

the_hdk: 1
EUROO7*

GrimPagan: 1
Gorganslayer

Yakman: 1
al-Aziz

Rovsea: 1
madchemist

Not Voted:
Sleepyhead
Eternaly_Lost
reis91
Galbatorix994
Yakman
Falc*
Edzako
sexytoes*
Gen. Skobelev
Ithvan*
Kaisersohaib
drxav
Jensthemens
Rendap
Citizen1oo1
marty99
Daffius
Cliges
Olaus Petrus
Rysz
Korona**
JohnKjeken*
HJ Tulp**

@GM: Does this means a seer can scan for both werewolves and vampires or that a seer can only scan for werewolves or vampires. If it's the latter do the seer(s) know that is how it works?

The Seer can detect both Vampires and Wolves.

 

[Ironhead 5]

I am now recruiting subs for Korona & HJ Tulp. If you know someone who would make a good Werewolf sub, please send him or her my way. I will autolynch them at the end of the day if we cannot find a sub.

 

[aedan777]

Official Vote Count (14 hours 32 minutes until deadline)

Spoiler

EUROO7: 15
GrimPagan
Hax
Rovsea
the_hdk
LatinKaiser
Slinky*
THE_SPLIT
Lemeard
J. Passepartout*
Sedracus*
Raczynski
tamius23
The Super Pope
Nautilu
Dr.Livingstone

Sleepyhead: 4
k-59
skynet464
Adamus*
Sand3r205

Wagonlitz: 2
aedan777
Sleepyhead

Cliges: 1
johho888

Dadarian: 1
Xarkan**

al-Aziz: 1
Dadarian

Hax: 1
DutchGuy

the_hdk: 1
EUROO7*

GrimPagan: 1
Gorganslayer

Yakman: 1
al-Aziz

Rovsea: 1
madchemist

Not Voted:
Sleepyhead
Eternaly_Lost
reis91
Galbatorix994
Yakman
Falc*
Edzako
sexytoes*
Gen. Skobelev
Ithvan*
Kaisersohaib
drxav
Jensthemens
Rendap
Citizen1oo1
marty99
Daffius
Cliges
Olaus Petrus
Rysz
Korona**
JohnKjeken*
HJ Tulp**

The Seer can detect both Vampires and Wolves.

Well this adds even more intrigue to the pile. Wonder what our 'JL' will say to this. Nothing trustworthy I suspect.

 

[EUROO7]

Well this adds even more intrigue to the pile. Wonder what our 'JL' will say to this. Nothing trustworthy I suspect.

His phrasing is still odd.

IRONHEAD: Can there be a seer that scans and detects only werewolves or only vampires?

 

[Adamus]

When Euro goes batshit power crazy it usually means he's an evil role intent on destruction by confusion.

Vote Euro

 

[k-59]

The Seer can detect both Vampires and Wolves.

Does the definite article mean there is only one seer?

 

[Sleepyhead]

The Seer can detect both Vampires and Wolves.

And only idiots would believe otherwise!

 

[Sleepyhead]

When Euro goes batshit power crazy it usually means he's an evil role intent on destruction by confusion.

Vote Euro

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