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unvote marty99
vote euroo7
 

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Do any restless players have any info on what EURO was doing last night? Did anyone see him? From what I've been told privately, he was out of his house, however given that he's restless and it's an even night that says almost nothing.
 

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It has to be. SoL knew he was getting outed and he had osteles' name. I had told only one person his name: Euro.

It's possible osteles was talking to other people and gave something away but I sort of doubt that.

Prety damning, if true.

Let's vote EURO untilhe can come up with reasonable explanation.
 

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By all reasonable odds, Randakar is the more likely baddie out of the two, given that EURO is double scanned. The only way EURO could be a wolf is if he was turned on that one no-hunt night. I've established that's possible, but I remember specifically asking for protection on EURO that day. If EURO was turned we have incompetent protectors. I also feel like the wolves may not have took that chance.
Then again. Randakar was the one who revealed the info, and if his plan was to give SoL this information, then do this, it wasn't a very good one as he's going to die at some point. Could be a play to get vampires in touch with the Sorc, and get rid of EURO, before sacrificing himself. Randy generally doesn't have much time these days so he could consider that the best option.
Still though, I'm not sure I see him doing this. EURO's perhaps more likely to give away this information as a baddie.

And there's also the fact EURO has done it as a goodie as well. Last year I was scanned by the JL and he told me I was going to be outed. We were able to use this info to set up a fake JL and co-ordinate hunts with the other pack.
So there's lots of variables. No single explanation makes complete sense. However the most likely may be sleeping scanners who didn't bother protecting EURO, who then got hunted, by a pack who should have known that EURO was likely to be protected and spied upon, which would also have given away their identity, but hunted him nonetheless. And that EURO happened to be cursed.
It says a lot that that seems the most likely explanation...

I think we'll probably have to end up lynching EURO today, but I'll wait to see if he offers a defence.

Good point. And randy is still very much a viable cultist/sorc, by his own admission.

I just don't know what to do here, and I don't want to kill a double scanned player if he hasn't in fact been turned.

Unvote EUROO7

For now.
 

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You didn't use [ B ][ /B ] which is a sin in my eyes. As my vote count program not see that.

Not to discourage your attempt for count script but there's been plenty of votes in this game without bold.
 

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Good point. And randy is still very much a viable cultist/sorc, by his own admission.

I just don't know what to do here, and I don't want to kill a double scanned player if he hasn't in fact been turned.

Unvote EUROO7

For now.
I still think EURO may be the best bet though. Be prepared to vote him again at least (although I'm sure you were). I'm not trying to take votes off EURO here - unless he shows up and makes a very thorough defence. I'm just saying how baffled I am by all of this.

If he is turned though I'll be pretty disappointed with the protectors.
 

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Not to discourage your attempt for count script but there's been plenty of votes in this game without bold.

Then everybody should vote in bold :angry:
I shall find something for that in the future, though.
 

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I still think EURO may be the best bet though. Be prepared to vote him again at least (although I'm sure you were). I'm not trying to take votes off EURO here - unless he shows up and makes a very thorough defence. I'm just saying how baffled I am by all of this.

If he is turned though I'll be pretty disappointed with the protectors.

That's pretty much where I am too. Just confused.

If EURO is in fact a leader, as I think was claimed somewhere, that might at least explain something about why the protectors might have failed to do their jobs properly (or at least a doctor).


Oh, by the way, just to make things even more confusing, I got this message under my door yesterday.

EUROO7 said:
madchemist said:
Uh. Hi. I received what may be the biggest waste of a restless player's actions ever last night. But I'll go with it anyway.

Reaching out will help you greatly
Contact Yuroh and Wrandee quickly

So is there an actual reason either or both of you would want to talk to me, or do I just ignore this while silently cursing at the idiot who sent it?

Hey, once I send a note I can't take it back, ok?

Anyway, Randy and I are JL. We need you for reasons.

And I've gotten absolutely nothing from either one since, despite multiple inquiries.
 

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To all those asking if it could be random. No way. I mean he KNEW he will be outed, so he had inside info. The chances of him hitting a JL member after that by chance is negligible.

So we have a wolf amongst, Randy, Euro and a possible leader (if Euro confirms). I don't think Randy knows the seer either so he isn't fully cleared (given that it's weekend and I only skimmed the thread so might have missed something).

vote euro

Until he provides an explanation. If there was a leader I'll switch. However until we catch the wolf from this 3 the seer better stay put.
What do you mean "no way" We have SoL saying himself that Osteles died because of RNG. Which is a complete violation of Ghost rules.
 

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Anything interesting happen, while I was away?

I am going to eat dinner first and then dive into the thread

Vote Ithvan

For now, I will change this when I have caught up.
 

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And which could easily be a lie.
EIther way, it is a completely inappropriate comment for SoL's current position that needs to be removed at once.
 

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If EURO is in fact a leader, as I think was claimed somewhere, that might at least explain something about why the protectors might have failed to do their jobs properly (or at least a doctor).

Yeah. I was about to point it out but you were there first. I guess we'll learn about it later.


What do you mean "no way" We have SoL saying himself that Osteles died because of RNG. Which is a complete violation of Ghost rules.

If he's going to break the ghost rules what's to say he wouldn't say that in order to help beleaguered packmate? Better take what he said with with sceptical mind.

Anyways, we know JL was onto SoL and we know he brutalled one of the JL inside men. Does that sound random to you, especially as he outed himself and thus knew lynch was coming (so there's no chance he couldn't have just been relying on old rng based backup order)?
 

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You didn't use [ B ][ /B ] which is a sin in my eyes. As my vote count program not see that.
I do agree with everything you say though.

[video=youtube;9EHAo6rEuas]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHAo6rEuas[/video]

Good point. And randy is still very much a viable cultist/sorc, by his own admission.

I just don't know what to do here, and I don't want to kill a double scanned player if he hasn't in fact been turned.

Unvote EUROO7

For now.

Fairpoint, however until Euro gives a reasonable explanation my votes stays. If there indeed was a leader I'll switch, as a leader is less of a loss than a possible double cleared JL-er. Also if that's the case we'll be more sure tomorrow anyway.

What do you mean "no way" We have SoL saying himself that Osteles died because of RNG. Which is a complete violation of Ghost rules.

What is unclear in my post? He knew he was scanned. Then goes and kills the only person that knows who the seer is. Yeah, pretty much 'no way'.


Edit: @Marty: Bryan Adams - Please forgive me
 

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Anyways, we know JL was onto SoL and we know he brutalled one of the JL inside men. Does that sound random to you, especially as he outed himself and thus knew lynch was coming (so there's no chance he couldn't have just been relying on old rng based backup order)?
The universe is rarely so lazy.