Werewolf CLXXIV: Trouble on The Stockholm

[Hax]

And I think Adamus did have a good reason to out Hax. Adamus was being lynched. It was really his only hope of surviving.

What kind of reason could that be according to you?

He didn't have any scan trait and if somebody else has scanned me why haven't they then outed me yet? The answer is simple: I'm a villager.

 

[marty99]

What kind of reason could that be according to you?

He didn't have any scan trait and if somebody else has scanned me why haven't they then outed me yet? The answer is simple: I'm a villager.

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I stated the reason, like, literally from the next word onwards.

 

[Hax]

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I stated the reason, like, literally from the next word onwards.

o Yeah.. I misread your comment, I thought you meant that he was hiding something.

 

[esemesas]

What kind of reason could that be according to you?

He didn't have any scan trait and if somebody else has scanned me why haven't they then outed me yet? The answer is simple: I'm a villager.

I think he was implying that having a reason to make the outing does not make it a valid outing. See every IJL outing ever made.

Also, I think we're focusing too much on Hax and Hax is focusing too much on that Ironhead outing debacle. I mean, come on, did people forget about this:

We are not lynching Hax tonight!

I think if the Priest's apprentice wanted him alive, that means he is in some way useful to the JL, no?

Vote DutchGuy

For following Hax's tunnel-vision. Especially since you didn't switch to I5 either.

 

[Sleepyhead]

I think johho was on the right track with ese, madchemist, Al-Aziz, Arkasas and you. Lynching you would net us the most info though.

Vote Al-Aziz

Ese already has votes, Hax was run up yesterday and of the remaining three, I feel Al-Aziz has gotten the least attention. I recall happycats calling her out.

 

[marty99]

Has Daffius ever received significant votes in this game? I'm honestly not sure if he has, so I'll throw one on him to see if it sticks. Hopefully the JL can give me a cultist or something tonight, or at least out them properly. And fucking scan me tonight please. If you've done so today, then contact me. I can't fool a double-scan (not in this set-up anyway).

Vote Daffius

 

[Daffius]

Medic or scan?

Sure, and my bank account number (with cc code) is... why is it important that you really want to know? Afraid of being outed?

Thanks for giving me a break and yeah we should look on some of those flying under the radar like esemesas, al-Aziz and madchemist.

At least we agree on that. So who's your bet from these 3? I'm open to any of them really.

It could also be that we have eliminated the communists and now the Aliens hunts alone. Ironhead did complain on the amount of wolves.

Unlikely. We've killed 2 communists, the likelyhood of having 4 wolves (2 of each pack) in a 35 player game would be slim (or unbalanced). It could be 3 pack, but then the possibility of coordinated hunt is even more disturbing.

It's possible, but ala Occam's Razor it can just as easily be explained by Ironhead being outed for over 24 hours. A cultist from the Communist pack (remember the Communist pack has not lost any cultists yet) could have contacted him and he would've told them everything he knew. If Ironhead knew the identity of the seer somehow, the question is how did he get the other pack to hunt them. Well, if it's an ABAB hunt order, they would have hunted Nautilu first time and could've told the Communists to do it second time. If it's ABBAABB, then the Aliens would have hunted both nights Nautilu got hunted.

The question is how Ironhead would've known. I still don't think there's any leak in the JL which could have lead him to knowing the Seer; not that I know of. So now, we may have to assume a sorcerer is in contact to explain the apparent knowledge of the Seer. It could just have been luck, perhaps. And maybe after the first hunt they decided he was likely to be important and hunted him again. Still, it's a question I've spent a long time pondering over the course of this game.

And I think Adamus did have a good reason to out Hax. Adamus was being lynched. It was really his only hope of surviving.

I could have been convinced that the seer was a lucky hit from their part. However since then they've hunted the GA and the priest apprentice one after the other. It doesn't seem like random luck to me at least. It would all make sense if there was another sorc merrily scanning around and coordinating the pack hunt lists. I can't really see how else they could get that info (unless there is a leak) and still coordinate.

I'm still not sold on the Adamus was saving himself 4 minutes to deadline and was adamant seconds before his lynch. I do know myself enought that I have a tendency to tunnel, so I'll drop it, but I'm not convinced.

I think he was implying that having a reason to make the outing does not make it a valid outing. See every IJL outing ever made.

Also, I think we're focusing too much on Hax and Hax is focusing too much on that Ironhead outing debacle. I mean, come on, did people forget about this:



I think if the Priest's apprentice wanted him alive, that means he is in some way useful to the JL, no?

Vote DutchGuy

For following Hax's tunnel-vision. Especially since you didn't switch to I5 either.

He was (emphasis on was) useful as Wagon himself mentioned he made use of his medic trait.

Has Daffius ever received significant votes in this game? I'm honestly not sure if he has, so I'll throw one on him to see if it sticks. Hopefully the JL can give me a cultist or something tonight, or at least out them properly. And fucking scan me tonight please. If you've done so today, then contact me. I can't fool a double-scan (not in this set-up anyway).

Vote Daffius

Votes yes. Significant vote? I don't think so.

 

[madchemist]

So what's going on today? Vote looks really spread out at first glance.

 

[tamius23]

I'm going to put my vote on Rysz. He's often been following others, most of the time posting things like "I agree" and seemingly afraid of making his own case.

Vote Rysz

esemesas: Voting DG is definitely tempting right now. He's not really contributed since he outed EURO at a ridiculous time.

 

[madchemist]

I'm going to put my vote on Rysz. He's often been following others, most of the time posting things like "I agree" and seemingly afraid of making his own case.

Vote Rysz

esemesas: Voting DG is definitely tempting right now. He's not really contributed since he outed EURO at a ridiculous time.

Voting DG is always tempting. I'm surprised I've managed to resist the temptation for this long, except that I almost forgot he's still playing.

Unvote Hax
Vote DG

 

[Sedracus]

So what's going on today? Vote looks really spread out at first glance.

All's quiet on the western front.

I'll see if I can't get a vote count up after dinner if nobody beats me to it.

 

[madchemist]

Lazy vote count:

Aedan: 2
Sed
DrL

ese: 2
Aziz
Hax


DG: 2
ese
MC

Sleepyhead: 1
DG

Aziz: 1
Sleepy

Daffius: 1
marty

Rysz: 1
tamius

 

[Sedracus]

Lazy vote count:

Aedan: 2
Sed
DrL

ese: 2
Aziz
Hax


DG: 2
ese
MC

Sleepyhead: 1
DG

Aziz: 1
Sleepy

Daffius: 1
marty

Rysz: 1
tamius

Whoa.

Some loving for everyone but you, it seems.

 

[Daffius]

Just realised, I haven't voted yet. I don't like the votes on DG by MC and Ese, unless you are claiming he's an alien. I mean the guy did net us Euro after all, so he is unlikely cultist and communist wolf, which makes him less likely baddie than others.

I'll go with Sleepy on Aziz. She hasn't really participated much, has throwaway votes. Apart from the Rysz case she has been coasting along candidates without giving much thought.

Vote Al-Aziz

 

[Sleepyhead]

Seems we've had sort of a reset, is it day 1 or something?

 

[Rysz]

Seems we've had sort of a reset, is it day 1 or something?

If so, it is fitting to make it a super-tie (which probably will get broken anyway, at least, I hope it is). But this way many people are kept in the running.

Vote Sleepyhead

 

[aedan777]

Vote DG

For being useless, he was rather determined earlier on to say he was cleared, and a little bit of self-preservation.

 

[Arkasas]

Vote Daff-Daff

I must learn things about him. Does he eat MREs or villagers with his cheese ration?

 

[Hax]

Sure, and my bank account number (with cc code) is... why is it important that you really want to know? Afraid of being outed?

I didn't ask how or when you used it, just what kind of trait it was.

At least we agree on that. So who's your bet from these 3? I'm open to any of them really.

I would say esemesas but I would also add Rysz to that list.

Unlikely. We've killed 2 communists, the likelyhood of having 4 wolves (2 of each pack) in a 35 player game would be slim (or unbalanced). It could be 3 pack, but then the possibility of coordinated hunt is even more disturbing.

We shall however not forget that Rendap has recently returned so maybe he has another way of distributing roles than the "normal" one.

 

[Sleepyhead]

If so, it is fitting to make it a super-tie (which probably will get broken anyway, at least, I hope it is). But this way many people are kept in the running.

Vote Sleepyhead

Any particular reason as to why you chose me over Daffius?