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Naive goodie would have been "yay, I caught a baddie" and happily brought up the issue in thread and outing the fisherman. But if it was obviously fishing attempt that was noticed, why bring it up like that? It's somewhat suspect way that's been used to handle it. Eternaly_Lost seems like above average scan target. Hilarious scenario PMs, by the way.
I don't know, PM boxes do tend to fill up fast, especially (no idea if this is true) if Marty is rather vanilla goodie - he'd not expect much in the way of PMs soon, especially such a barrage of fishing PMs and such.
Well, I wouldn't necessarily use this iteration of hunter shot being wasted but I can understand the RP logic. He's not armed with some modern rifle, he only has ancient (plasma) matchlock. And to be sure he kills without getting killed he has burning match when entering the lover's room. However, it's empty and while waiting the match burns out. Since he has no replacement, it's now useless gun.
[video=youtube;2KTS8PQ06Qo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTS8PQ06Qo[/video]
I thought it was rather obvious from the get go it's fishing. Then again, if he didn't know Hax had done that in previous game he might have thought it could work on newer players.
I don't know. I would be perfectly happy to keep hunter in reserve and just get Euro lynched today. But feel free to agitate for somebody else.
Only when one has a Dane in the same pack or JL...
Yep, Wagonlitz tends to be rather talkative.
But why not put out the match when noticing there is nobody. Or at least after having waited for quite a while?
It's hard to keep up... How did I ever have enough time to keep up with these last year?
Either way, I think we should let Sed shoot Euro. As a rule I tend to ignore anything an outed wolf says, and therefore don't believe his claim that he can't be shot. I'd leave him to be useful for later, *if* hunter was also OEO, but as it's not, I don't suspect he'd live till then. Even though he's an obvious protection target, I don't think we could protect him everyday. Protect him today, they get him tomorrow.
Now that it is known that he is a hunter, he needs to use his shot quick or die, and Euro is the best target we have.
Then the question is, who should I vote instead? I can't imagine why a goodie EL would post that in the thread, but then again, I can't picture why a baddie EL would do it either. The theory of warning his packmates doesn't really make sense, I tend to reply to PMs only after having read all the ones I've gotten. If anything, it's the thread I'm likely to not check.
Then again, he could have been warning *other* baddies, but would a baddie risk making himself look suspicious just for that?
Either way, I think we should let Sed shoot Euro. As a rule I tend to ignore anything an outed wolf says, and therefore don't believe his claim that he can't be shot. I'd leave him to be useful for later, *if* hunter was also OEO, but as it's not, I don't suspect he'd live till then. Even though he's an obvious protection target, I don't think we could protect him everyday. Protect him today, they get him tomorrow.
Now that it is known that he is a hunter, he needs to use his shot quick or die, and Euro is the best target we have.
Then the question is, who should I vote instead? I can't imagine why a goodie EL would post that in the thread, but then again, I can't picture why a baddie EL would do it either. The theory of warning his packmates doesn't really make sense, I tend to reply to PMs only after having read all the ones I've gotten. If anything, it's the thread I'm likely to not check.
Then again, he could have been warning *other* baddies, but would a baddie risk making himself look suspicious just for that?
Stop talking as if I'm not going to shoot someone tonight. People will die, captain's orders.
Focus on analysis, and lynching who we believe to be a baddie as per normal democratic procedure.
And zombies, kindly unvote Euro and vote whomever you believe is most suspicious.
As has been pointed out before: If nobody is shot tonight, I die tomorrow.
So, we have an outting and now the wolves are trying to save their packmate, by bandwagon me.
That the only reason I see to not vote for Euro. So, should they manage to pull it off, I am sure we have quite a few good lynches when you all see that I am a villager here.
That the only reason I see to not vote for Euro. So, should they manage to pull it off, I am sure we have quite a few good lynches when you all see that I am a villager here.
Unvote EURO Vote Eternaly_Lost
The case on E_L is bogus, completely. But he could yet be a wolf anyway - his response was someone that isn't really dependent on role so much. And since he seems to be most likely to be getting votes in EURO's stead he gets my vote for now to try and get a decent voting cycle. If I can get more votes off EURO, we can try out different candidates too.
No reason not to take Sed's word at face value. He is obviously a hunter, even though that doesn't clear him of being a baddie 100%.
The case on E_L is bogus, completely. But he could yet be a wolf anyway - his response was someone that isn't really dependent on role so much. And since he seems to be most likely to be getting votes in EURO's stead he gets my vote for now to try and get a decent voting cycle. If I can get more votes off EURO, we can try out different candidates too.
No reason not to take Sed's word at face value. He is obviously a hunter, even though that doesn't clear him of being a baddie 100%.
Ask yourself this. What wolf would make it easier for the other pack?
Cultist would know Iron is lying if they got PMed. So they don't matter.
So, who am I helping most by posting that?
It not the wolves, but rather the villagers themselves.
Wolves live on incorrect information and confusion. By pushing Iron's PM out, I make it clear that he is trying to play a game here in the background. One that might be a villager fishing for wolves, but it might also be a wolf fishing for cultists or other wolves.
It be different if he was claiming a goody role, but by claiming a baddie role, there is no danger to the village to push it out to the thread unless he was a goodie roll that decided to draw attention to himself.
Best case we have at the moment, imho.
Agreed, I'm open to other people being analysed and possibly lynched as well.Marty said:
Votecount as of #468
Euro 15 - Arkasas (316), DutchGuy (317), Panzer (318), Rysz (320), Broh (322), Ese (323), Sander (325), Tamius (354), Nautilu (355), E_Lost (370), Adamus (403), Falc (407), Skob (413), Ironhead (384,396,414)
Wagon 7 - Sleepy (324,335), Yakman (340), Johho (342), Rovsea (356), GUG (331,364), Kaisersohaib (435), Marty (426 Euro -> 468)
Rysz 2 - Kiwi (362), Madchemist (379)
E_Lost 4 - Daffius (409), Randy (405,416), Sedracus (453), Wagon (319 Euro -> 455)
Sleepy 1 - Alxeu (336)
Dexander 1 - Happycats (337)
Madchemist 1 - al-Aziz (341)
Ironhead 1 - Hax (366)
Arkasas 1 - Aedan (380)
Not voted: Dexander, Euro
Unvote EURO vote Sedracus
My suspect is you.I have the feeling you lying about your trait.
My suspect is you.I have the feeling you lying about your trait.
There is almost no conceivable chance Sed would lie about his role here. He has NOTHING, NOTHING to gain from lying about it. And he has literally EVERYTHING to lose. If he lies about it, he gets lynched within 48 hours, guaranteed.
Actually, seemingly Wagon has more votes on him, going by Sed's votecount. I find him a marginally better candidate than E_L.
Unvote EUROO7 Vote Wagonlitz
Unvote EUROO7 Vote Wagonlitz
Sorry, I'd take attention to that in a normal voting cycle. But here I just need someone that isn't Euro (or Wagonlitz) and as you seem to be the most likely to be lynched, I'll roll with it.
If he is, we'll kill him tomorrow.
Wait... You want us to lynch Sed today? So Euro lives and with no one to hunt him? Aren't you the one who outed him?
Why?
Plus if we lynch him he won't shoot EURO, since he is dead. That really is a retarded vote.