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To be quite honest, it was clear that JohnKjenken was a villager, but as always no one cared about the points I made yesterday, let's look at the past day and it's fruits :
vote Arkasas
From my experience either he gets lynched early in the game or manages to sweep under the radar and get a win as a wolf, I would like to see more of him this time, which will hopefully increase the possibility of actually getting some information out of him.
By the way, I think we're dealing with three Packs here. Because, if we're being honest, how likely is Mr. GM to confuse Mirror Demons with Communists?
Rovsea creates a fairly solid vote against JK, which is also the first vote against him, until of course :
The TIE was 5-5, so his defense would have been that he is not guilty of actually making the TIE, and that going off Rovsea's theory we should lynch the other nine involved in the TIE too, or at least that's what I think he meant.
JohnKjenken storms quickly and agrees with Kai's explanation, adding some logic and solid defense:
Precisely. That is, I am not alone responsible for making it. The timestamp on my post is 23 mins before deadline. The only one willing to break the tie was apparently Daffius, but his sniping skills need work (or was it something more sinister than incompetence?)
23 minutes is a lot of time, enough time for many vote switches to break this unpopular TIE created by him, which ended up killing two villagers, after the accusations made against Daffius were dismissed by his response :
Nothing. Bro's comment came off as not wolfish to me and I decided to let him live, but I was too late apparantely. To be fair, I clicked at .59:57 according to my stop watch.
Anyway, it doesn't bother me that much to be honest and if I were a baddie I would have had nothing to gain by doing it apart from drawing unnecessary questions.
Daffius defends himself using a sort of : "I am not that stupid of a wolf and I wouldn't have gained anything from it."
Now, after a few hours the situation has developed, with EURO still the front runner and Arkasas, my candidate at the time, was runner up with 3 votes, John was at this moment not that threatened.
This was mostly the most eventful time of the past day, showing the evolution of the JK up-run ( not an actual word ) and his lynching, in spite of the clear evidence that he was a villager and that the case against him was a little bit weak.
Looking at the vote count at the end of the day :
al-Aziz: 3
Gen. Skobelev [333]
randakar [336]
aeden777 [392]
esemesas: 2 JohnKjeken [367] johho88 [373]
Daffius: 1
Falc [359]
Dexander: 1
tamius23 [368]
Sedracus: 1
Sand3r205 [353 JohnKjeken -> EURO 358 -> 395]
My main candidates have to sadly be the same as yesterday, here is a small analysis to help you get the reasons behind my vote :
EURO : Fairly inactive, although could probably be because of the current trip he is making, I don't quite remember the case against him, so I have to hear more from him.
Arkasas : Although I now have more information and evidence against him, I would rather not try to lynch him for 2 days in a row, which seems quite unhelpful, however, this does not mean that I will not go back to him.
Dexander : Fairly good candidate, has been either jumping into bandwagons followed by stuff like this :
I would have to conclude and vote Dexander for the moment. His defense seems quite weak and my vote shall remain until he decides to come up with something more solid or convincing, which he has failed to do until now.
To be quite honest, it was clear that JohnKjenken was a villager, but as always no one cared about the points I made yesterday, let's look at the past day and it's fruits :
Rovsea creates a fairly solid vote against JK, which is also the first vote against him, until of course :
First, nice to see substancial post by you. I've been expecting you to step up.
Secondly, kindly leave the links to the quotes you make (unless it's from one big post when there's just link on the topmost quote). It's annoying to go back manually to see what's being said and in what context.
And thirdly, I don't see how that vote was "fairly solid" unless you mean the case was good (hint: it wasn't).
JohnKjenken storms quickly and agrees with Kai's explanation, adding some logic and solid defense:
23 minutes is a lot of time, enough time for many vote switches to break this unpopular TIE created by him, which ended up killing two villagers, after the accusations made against Daffius were dismissed by his response :
Then again, it's well to remember that most would be afraid of jumping because 1) if they picked wrong candidate (should the saved one turn out later turn up as baddie) they'd be accused on that note, 2) they don't want to draw unwanted attention to themselves no matter the role, 3) it's no matter which one or both get lynched (no packmates or from villager point no info on either) or 4) not being around or not even caring.
This was mostly the most eventful time of the past day, showing the evolution of the JK up-run ( not an actual word ) and his lynching, in spite of the clear evidence that he was a villager and that the case against him was a little bit weak.
Looking at the vote count at the end of the day :
I believe you should have included the links. Moreover, this might be even better point of reference. ~40 minutes to deadline and Euro still solid lead, with 2 other candidates trailing behind 2 votes and then long train of other lesser candidates.
Scroll down a post or three and you'll see quick move to JK right before deadline. Mind you, it could be killing JK instead of Euro, could be saving packmate or could be something else. But I find those later votes just as important if one is to look at who is to blame for JK lynch.
My main candidates have to sadly be the same as yesterday, here is a small analysis to help you get the reasons behind my vote :
EURO : Fairly inactive, although could probably be because of the current trip he is making, I don't quite remember the case against him, so I have to hear more from him.
Arkasas : Although I now have more information and evidence against him, I would rather not try to lynch him for 2 days in a row, which seems quite unhelpful, however, this does not mean that I will not go back to him.
Dexander : Fairly good candidate, has been either jumping into bandwagons followed by stuff like this :
Rovsea? Al-Aziz? The quiet ones? Mind you, it's good that you make a post there but I'd like to hear more of your opinions on some other suspects, too.
Going back to yesterday, at the time, EURO seemed a much more sensible lynch than JohnKjeken. It's not like JK sniped the tie. I'd've voted EURO if I'd been around at the right time.
With that in mind, I think there could be a wolf among the JK voters. Rysz and Dexander make a lot of sense here.
Randy, although he didn't vote JK, has been acting abnormally too.
That's very unlike you Randy. You are 'moving with the flow' way too much in this game... going on a bandwagon yesterday (and more importantly not even noticing it), going with the vanilla villager claim today and now going for Al-Aziz. Not that I don't agree with Al-Aziz being a candidate, it's more of you trying to take the easier route, as if not putting the effort in to actually look... something a person in the know does (aka: wolf).
randakar - Sort of lame in his analysis. I concur but as he says, there is not a lot to go on yet. I'm not going to help lynch such a good analyzer on such a flimsy evidence.
I'm quite curious on the role you have played the past days. Apparently you like the way you take put your vote on popular 'subjects'.
a) Even if you would have less time to play, you would still be able to make your own opinion. So this option looks not possible to me.
b) Could be, but I don't see any villager not caring who gets lynched. Looks bit like wolf behavior.
Yes General, you should be concerned. You summarize and judge people good. However this doesn't necessarily have to mean that persons would vote with you, without reason.
I like the way you talk to me like I'm your growing up child.
