Werewolf CLXVII: Seven Cities of gold

[Kaisersohaib]

She got lynched because she was bandwagoning Dexander based on a fairly thin piece of speculation.
Not a bad result for a day that started off rather badly, honestly. That bandwagon on Dex was not a good start.

Fixed it for ya

 

[brovahkiin]

Today you spotted that Moorish guy with the long name doing Muslim stuff! so you killed in the name of Christ!
you lynch al-aziz the wolf of the maya pack
in seems you have angered the native spirits though as aedan777 the nondescript man was found with one of these crushing his body

aedan777 the vanilla ice cream village was hunted

 

[2kNikk]

Can we get an official end if day vote count?

 

[marty99]

[video=youtube;rog8ou-ZepE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE[/video]

 

[aedan777]

Sub. Cowards.

 

[brovahkiin]

al-Aziz: 7
alxeu [332]
aedan777 [324 madchemist -> 451]
Rovsea [325 Sleepyhead -> 334 Dexander -> 454 alxeu -> 455]
2kNikk [307 randakar -> 398 Dexander -> 447 Falc -> 456]
madchemist [338 Rovsea -> 430 alxeu -> 457]
Leondark [468]
Dexander (Pm)

Dexander: 4
johho888 [333]
Otto of England [345]
Gorganslayer [358]
Sleepyhead [371]

Rovsea: 3
Kaisersohaib [367]
Falc [388]
al-Aziz [321 Cymsdale -> 383 Dexander -> 389]

alxeu: 3
Dr. Livingstone [328]
Cymsdale [327 Dexander -> 391 2kNikk -> 449]
JohnKjeken [326 2kNikk -> 387 Rovsea -> 453]

2kNikk: 1
Xarkan [417]

GorgonSlayer: 1
pjnlsn [288] (Valid?)

Xarkan: 1
Gen. Skobelev [308]

Falc: 1
Kaetje [322]

Cymsdale: 1
randakar [323 Gen. Skobelev -> 386]

Leondark: 1
tamius23 [431]

 

[madchemist]

There was a pm vote on Al-aziz as well but I lost it to make space in inbox

By whom? Or does the voter not get revealed?

 

[brovahkiin]

it was Dexander, sorry I had to dive into the inbox catacombs and there a lots of corpses in there

 

[Rovsea]

Technically you're not dead yet. With PM voters in the mix you might yet live. Or not.
Of course, since you've now basically incriminated yourself, that will just mean you get to live for 24 more hours before we kill you anyway




He got lynched because he was bandwagoning Dexander based on a fairly thin piece of speculation.
Not a bad result for a day that started off rather badly, honestly. That bandwagon on Dex was not a good start.

*Cough* She *cough*.

 

[JohnKjeken]

I have scanned sleepyhead and he is not a wolf

 

[Dr.Livingstone]

I have scanned sleepyhead and he is not a wolf

Confirmed for Sorc?

 

[madchemist]

I have scanned sleepyhead and he is not a wolf

Excellent. So either that's true or you're probably packmates, with the former somewhat the likelier of the two. Good to know.

 

[al-Aziz]

Sub

 

[madchemist]

Sub

Wolves subbing is generally frowned upon, as they have lots of information, like who their packmates were.

 

[randakar]

Fixed it for ya

Right.
Does Al'aziz him/herself wish to be adressed like that?

[video=youtube;rog8ou-ZepE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE[/video]

:rofl:

Sub. Cowards.

Hmm. I guess that you were hunted by these mayans because you were arguing against Al'Aziz, then.
So, mayans hunt odd nights, probably. If we have two packs, that is.

it was Dexander, sorry I had to dive into the inbox catacombs and there a lots of corpses in there

:rofl:

Confirmed for Sorc?

Err, what do you mean with this?

Excellent. So either that's true or you're probably packmates, with the former somewhat the likelier of the two. Good to know.

.. or it's true *and* they're packmates.
Aziz could still be a cultist ..

Sub

Since you have knowledge of your pack, you subbing for anyone is impossible.

 

[pjnlsn]

al-aziz is a girl, is she?

 

[Gen. Skobelev]

Plenty of more or less typical day 1 votes. Then

Vote dexander

We should resolve this rival nonsense right away so we're not distracted by it on more critical days.

Starts the trend on Dexander. Now, with the claims Sleepyhead has done it's reasonable to assume Dexander might be a baddie.

Hmm. Get a couple more people behind you and we'll see. Until then, my vote stays.

A bit odd to wait others do the decision for you. Then again, I can't remember you being the leader earlier, either.


2kNikk questions immediately the votes on Dexander, then backtracks a bit.

I am intrigued by how quickly Dex got to 3, especially at Rovsea flipping from one rival to another.

Yeah I guess. Then again, at that point it was the best lead (even if rather weak) so it's good to call it out.

I don't like this eliminate my rival for me voting, it will make the game a lil' bit boring, for now I shall vote Rovsea

Here's where the Rovsea starts to rise up in votes. Also interesting how Kai seems to ignore the trait stuff that seems to indicate higher than average chance of Sleepyhead's rival being baddie.

I'm rather partial to lynching Dexander but I'd like to see where the votes are.

And I think we can now safely say Dexander isn't packmate of al-Aziz's.

Well, if mr. sleepyhead is serious about wishing to be JL spokesperson, I suggest you use that on him and tell us the results in the morning.
Normal procedure is a double scan of the volunteer, but given our history with that let's be safe rather than sorry ;-)

Sleepy has always been a bit of a loud player but this sounds like too much suicidal tendancies even for him. Anyways, who waits for double-scan before starting a JL, right?

You're one of those 'down with seers' people, aren't you? Wolf.

Anyway, I seriously do not approve of this dexander bandwagon nonsense. Sure, he could easily be evil, but let's not forget our newbie GM with an alledgedly-crazy setup here. We can't assume anything. And if he really is evil there are too many people voting him for us to get any information out of this lynch.

## Unvote Gen. Skobelev
Vote Cymsdale

Consolidating the vote a little.

Consolidating by putting the first vote to Cymsdale? Tut tut Randy... anyways, good point about the setup. It's more than fair to consider the setup isn't necessarily typical or balanced or anything so lynching somebody because his rival claims certain traits could be assuming too much.

You missed al-Aziz changing his vote. Yours is the only vote on cymsdale.

Unvote 2kNikk
Vote Rovsea

In the interest of getting another candidate up there

Hmm. Rovsea goes up again.

VOTE ROVSEA

Bandwagons are bad, ties are good

And up... with interesting reasoning.

Do we need to Unvote in this game? :blink:

Oh well then.

Unvote Cymsdale, Vote Dexander.

But we should probably try for another candidate for information.

Unvote Dexander, Vote Rovsea

And I think we can rule Rovsea out as packmate of al-Aziz, too.

Unvote Dexander
Vote 2kNikk

New candidates are fun.

Again new candidate brought up who has no votes. What's with the attemps of raising new candidates by voting previously 0-vote candidates?

You make a poor town leader. You need more caps and size 7 font.

Also I think Dex not claiming is bad enough for a vote

Unvote: Randakar
Vote: Dexander

Dexander back in solid lead over Rovsea.

Why does Rovsea have 5 votes?

And 2kNikk shows tendency to question the current votes while keeping Dexander solidly in the lead.

Vote 2knikk

From what I've read, this tie went up too easily.

This is a good observation. Not sure 2kNikk is the worst offender of it, though, as others point out.

Why won't al aziz vote for you. Is she your packmate?

And hits might be significant.

Then look at al-Aziz, not Toucan.

And this is where al-Aziz gets the first attention. Alxeu had vote on al-Aziz but it was throwaway from the start of day. Her name hasn't been mentioned previously, at least not seriously.


However, Rovsea also keeps on pushing Dexander.

What was this about bringing him down with you, then? People, this is suspicious. Vote Dexander!

I'd guess it's self defense at this point, 20 minutes to deadline.


Again switch attempt, to Falc this time.

Unvote: Dexander
Vote: Falc

Switch!

Some follow until aedan777 makes the rather sensible suggestion to look at the worst bandwagon offender voting Dexander there.

I don't see any real case on Rovsea, and I don't think the rival mess makes dexander as likely a wolf as others think. However I think al-Aziz is an excellent candidate.


At this point it was 6 votes on Dexander to 2 votes on the nearest candidate. Such bandwagoning is not warranted. She then quickly follows this up with running up rovsea for no real reason. The most likely possibilities I see are wolf directing the village to 'safe' candidates, or wolf defending packmate dexander by driving him up so high, voters will go looking for other candidates, to counter the bandwagon. I don't see why a villager would act like that though.

Unvote Madchemist Vote al-Aziz

Also, we know aedan777 got hunted the same night he made the case here. I would be almost tempted to say tonight was the blue pack turn to hunt but of course we can't know for sure.

Vote Falc then!

Dex PM Vote Falc to prove yourself!

2kNikk keeps going for lengths to push his candidate (which isn't al-Aziz)

Alxeu also got votes but this here turns the tide to al-Aziz:

Scratch that, it seems that Aedan has emu'd a case I agree with before my post.

unvote Alxeu, Vote Al-Aziz

2kNikk, madchemist and Dexander all follow.

One minute to the deadline - and is this just taking time for typing or is that your typical "oh dear, packmate gets lynched in any case, better put my vote in there for alibi"

Unvote Rovsea
Vote Al-aziz

right here? Dexander tried some pretty odd move to Falc also but the deadline was passed. Kindly explain the reason for it? Oh wait, PM vote explained by GM later.

I really hope we did the right thing, que dios nos perdone.

"We"? Your vote wasn't needed there, smells like you are trying to ingratiate youself to the lynch of wolf and getting some credit there.

Sub

You can't really sub in. You know your pack stuff, hunt orders etc. and even if your entire pack is wiped out you subbing in would signal that the pack is indeed wiped out (and you'd still know hunt order etc.).



Now, some thoughts. 2kNikk is asking tons of questions from various players and attempting lots of switches. While activity is good, that struck me as slightly odd. Could be because mostly they were directed at the new, mafia-familiar players. Odd but he ended up voting al-Aziz on rather crucial point so I guess he's just eager.

Dexander & Rovsea are unlikely packmates of al-Aziz. I'm almost tempted to think both Sleepyhead and Dexander to be villagers unless Sleepyhead lied about his traits. Then again, his behaviour would have drawn scans so unless is SA baddie and knows he's been scanned on night 0 which will result in his outing (so he's dead man walking) and he just hopes to draw other scans and potentially get scanner names (as seer/priest making outing on day 1 would be suicidal for them) it would be suicide for baddie. So, I'm leaning towards villager/villager pair here.

I found Leondark behaviour slightly odd there, too, but he's new player and I'm prone to overreading stuff so I'll give him a pass now.


Too many players that barely blip on radar. More info is needed, I think.

 

[Gen. Skobelev]

Maya pack
normal goodie

DAY 0/NIGHT 0

Spoiler

Kaisersohaib: 5
2kNikk [185 Physical Therapists -> 196]
Leondark [198]
Gorganslayer [208]
Dexander [209]
Kaisersohaib [194 Kaisersohaib -> 212]

JohnKjeken: 5
madchemist [199]
johho888 [190 International Red Cross -> 233]
Lemeard [241]
JohnKjeken [192 Hillary -> 197 Kaisersohaib -> 252]
Gen.Skobelev [193 johho888 -> 271]

Pineapples: 2
Rovsea [202]
al-Aziz [204]

Eight Amendment: 1
Dr.Livingstone [175]

johho888 1
Cymsdale [201 Gen. Skobelev -> 240]

aedan777: 1
aedan777 [195]

pjnlsn: 1
pjnlsn [200]

Otto of england: 1
Otto of england [203]

tamius23: 1
tamius23 [211]

Falc: 1
Falc [215]

madchemist: 1
randakar [218 johho888 -> 218]

randakar: 1
Kaetje [220]

Sleepyhead: 1
Sleepyhead [225]


not voted: 2
Xarkan
alxeu

JohnKjeke wins sham voting and gets seerish power.

NIGHT 0

There is no hunt.

DAY 1/NIGHT 1

Spoiler

al-Aziz: 7
alxeu [332]
aedan777 [324 madchemist -> 451]
Rovsea [325 Sleepyhead -> 334 Dexander -> 442 Dexander -> 454 alxeu -> 455]
2kNikk [307 randakar -> 398 Dexander -> 447 Falc -> 456]
madchemist [338 Rovsea -> 429 alxeu -> 430 alxeu -> 457]
Leondark [406 Rovsea -> 468]
Dexander [465 al-Aziz -> PM vote]

Dexander: 4
johho888 [333]
Otto of england [345]
Gorgonslayer [358]
Sleepyhead [371]

Rovsea: 3
Kaisersohaib [367]
Falc [388]
al-Aziz [321 Cymsdale -> 383 Dexander -> 389 Dexander -> 389]

alxeu: 3
Dr.Livingstone [328]
Cymsdale [327 Dexander -> 391 2kNikk -> 449]
JohnKjeken [326 2kNikk -> 387 Rovsea -> 453]

Falc: 1
Kaetje [322]

Xarkan : 1
Gen.Skobelev [308]

GorgonSlayer: 1
pjnlsn [288]

Cymsdale: 1
randakar [323 Gen. Skobelev -> 386]

2kNikk: 1
Xarkan [417]

Leondark: 1
tamius23 [431]


not voted: 1
Lemeard []

Dexander tried to vote Falc on post 469 but the deadline was already passed.

al-Aziz the wolf of the maya pack is lynched.


NIGHT 1

aedan777 the villager is hunted.

 

[Rovsea]

Right.
Does Al'aziz him/herself wish to be adressed like that?



:rofl:



Hmm. I guess that you were hunted by these mayans because you were arguing against Al'Aziz, then.
So, mayans hunt odd nights, probably. If we have two packs, that is.



:rofl:



Err, what do you mean with this?



.. or it's true *and* they're packmates.
Aziz could still be a cultist ..



Since you have knowledge of your pack, you subbing for anyone is impossible.

She is a girl. You should know this, you've played with her before. Also, technically she should be able to sub in for one of her packmates, although doing so would probably be gamebreaking.

 

[Lemeard]

Vote Leondark