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Kaisersohaib

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I read it more as telling you to go fck yourself, but each to his own.

If you have an actual case against Kai please present it, otherwise you and him going at it like knives is an irritating if somewhat entertaining distraction.
As you have done it in both your incarnations I presume you must have some evidence so now would be a great time to post it.
Jonti-h, how do you know me so well? Have you been spying on me while I was sleeping?
And yes, that was indeed a post made to make it clear that he was getting on my nerves and that he should sod off.
 

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I know I know, I have become very forceful when it comes to Yakman

I'm sure Jonti will love you for that.


I said it one minute before you actually, see, we are meant to be together, as your powers fade away, mine become stronger. I SHALL BE THE NEW SKOBIE :p

Uh oh...


I never thought people would look up to me in Werewolf :D
See, voteswitches, from my experience, are taken as a "hesitant wolf" move and not considered as productive activity, making small analysis is much better.

Nope. And it wasn't voteswitch which caused you to get votes. Clearly you missed the argument then.


I find it interesting that people seem to have completely lost interest/forgotten about Panzer and Kaisersohaib. I understand that we might want to try new candidates but I'm suspicious of people who escape the noose.

I suppose and I think I remarked on it. Then again, running same guys up time and again isn't necessarily the best way to go. Oh and by the way, why omit Arkasas from the list?


:rofl:
Do you seriously think that was an outing? If that's the case then I won't even bother paying attention to you anymore.

Well, it could be read like that. Also, like Split says, you do/did protest quite vehemently there. Could be annoyance at your new playstyle being challenged, could be... something else.


O RLY?
That is the exact same reason I was run up, and if my memory doesn't fail me, you jumped on my bandwagon for that reason exactly.

No. That started when Randy remarked you sounded like hesitant wolf, I concurred and dug up couple of posts from you in that exact vein and then you started getting votes.


...wait just a second here. Cymsdale, if you really were the van Helsing, you would have KNOWN your role got stolen, it would have said so in your role pm (or else said nothing at all). Either we have read the roles wrong and you still have van Helsing, or you are lying about your role.

Which is it?

Et tu, Marty? :rofl:


Lovely weather we're having. What's the buzz, tell me what's happening...

Wait, no philosophical thoughts tonigt? :(


Marty, you're the umpteenth person to fall for this. Please go read the robber rules.

:laugh:


You wanted to save EUROO7, as you trusted he was a guild-member.

Um - you might want to realise he was in a guild after all. And goodie on top of that...


Werewolf moves as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, forum without end. Násië.

Ah, there it is.


I read it more as telling you to go fck yourself.

Mmyeah. It could be read indeed that he got annoyed when his playstyle change (to the better, I'd like to say) got immediately challenged. Then again, he did protest a bit excessively. *shrug*
 

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Marty, you're the umpteenth person to fall for this. Please go read the robber rules.
What have I fallen for? Being robbed demotes you to basic villager status. But Cymsdale, the person being robbed, apparently didn't know this. He claimed he still has van Helsing.
 

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Mmyeah. It could be read indeed that he got annoyed when his playstyle change (to the better, I'd like to say) got immediately challenged. Then again, he did protest a bit excessively. *shrug*

I write quite some strong posts so that didn't really register, but you could be right.
I dunno what Kai is, but Cyms going for him after he changed his playstyle (after nearly getting lynched, something I was keen to take part in) pissed me off purely from the message it sends out.

For now I'd rather lynch Yakman and someone else instead of returning to the Panda/Kai runners up.
 

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What have I fallen for? Being robbed demotes you to basic villager status. But Cymsdale, the person being robbed, apparently didn't know this. He claimed he still has van Helsing.

I think he said that DG had been van Helsing but had lost that to robbery Cymsdale did. And the confusion rose when people (myself included) were wondering where the van Helsing went as he's now villager/cultist.


I write quite some strong posts so that didn't really register, but you could be right.
I dunno what Kai is, but Cyms going for him after he changed his playstyle (after nearly getting lynched, something I was keen to take part in) pissed me off purely from the message it sends out.

For now I'd rather lynch Yakman and someone else instead of returning to the Panda/Kai runners up.

Yeah, sure. I'm not advocating lynching Kaisersohaib today, either. I suppose I was just trying to say I can kind of see both sides of the argument (pissed off vs too defensive). I guess Cymsdale just has a Kaiserohaib fetish in this game, I think quite many players get fixated on another at one point or another.
 

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What have I fallen for? Being robbed demotes you to basic villager status. But Cymsdale, the person being robbed, apparently didn't know this. He claimed he still has van Helsing.
So, yeah, again, what have I fallen for?

I think he said that DG had been van Helsing but had lost that to robbery Cymsdale did. And the confusion rose when people (myself included) were wondering where the van Helsing went as he's now villager/cultist.
No, he did not say that. He said the exact opposite.
I believe robbery just steals traits, and not roles.
So, he either believed he still had van Helsing, or he was lying in some way.
 

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I suppose and I think I remarked on it. Then again, running same guys up time and again isn't necessarily the best way to go. Oh and by the way, why omit Arkasas from the list?
No real reason. Picked the two that came to mind.

I guess running up new people is a good thing, as long as we keep the names of those previously run up in mind for future days.
 

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Were my posts aggressive to you? I mean they look pretty normal to me, I was told many times that my posts come out as threatening and aggressive, however, it's just how I write, I could still start writing....... softer?
 

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No, he did not say that. He said the exact opposite.

So, he either believed he still had van Helsing, or he was lying in some way.

Hmm. I suppose I better reread what was going on back there as I was confused myself about the robbery/trait/van Helsing stuff. You could be onto something there (though I thought so before I reread the rules & got corrected on my assumption).


No real reason. Picked the two that came to mind.

I guess running up new people is a good thing, as long as we keep the names of those previously run up in mind for future days.

That's very much true. Something to return to tomorrow, perhaps, after seeing how today goes? Or perhaps scanners can work their wonders there. And fair enough, it'd be too excessive to run simply all candidates from previous day again, it'd be rather superfluous and outright silly.
 

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Read the rules on the first post if things are still unsure to you.

Marty, I would like you to comment on the interaction between me and Kaiser over the past two days, you usually have an opinion about lots of things, but you have been completely ignoring this.
I have read them. Being robbed makes you lose your roles. But in your post, you were clearly unaware of that. If you got robbed of van Helsing, you would have got told so in your role pm and wouldn't have made that mistake, I would've thought.

Also, I don't think the case on Kaisersohaib was ever particularly strong. I think it's good he's being more active.
 

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You wanted to save EUROO7, as you trusted he was a guild-member.

That still doesn't qualify as bandwagoning, though.

Cymsdale, the person being robbed, apparently didn't know this. He claimed he still has van Helsing.

No, he claimed he found out that his new role used to have that role when he subbed back in...
 

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No, he claimed he found out that his new role used to have that role when he subbed back in...
Randy, listen. He said he thought, and the quote is right there, that robbing doesn't lose roles. If he knew his role had been robbed, why would he say that robbing didn't take away roles? That's all I want to know.
 

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Yeah, sure. I'm not advocating lynching Kaisersohaib today, either. I suppose I was just trying to say I can kind of see both sides of the argument (pissed off vs too defensive). I guess Cymsdale just has a Kaiserohaib fetish in this game, I think quite many players get fixated on another at one point or another.

So can I, suppose as I can be fairly aggressive my sympathy tends to go towards him slightly and IIRC I've been on the back end of a Cyms-obsession at some point too.
 

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So can I, suppose as I can be fairly aggressive my sympathy tends to go towards him slightly and IIRC I've been on the back end of a Cyms-obsession at some point too.

Fuck this "obsession" bullshit. I noticed a strange change in behavior that I found suspicious yesterday, and I poked him to test it. As a result, I decided to vote for him today because of his reaction.
 

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Randy, listen. He said he thought, and the quote is right there, that robbing doesn't lose roles. If he knew his role had been robbed, why would he say that robbing didn't take away roles? That's all I want to know.
I don't see what he'd gain from lying though?
 

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Fuck this "obsession" bullshit. I noticed a strange change in behavior that I found suspicious yesterday, and I poked him to test it. As a result, I decided to vote for him today because of his reaction.

Now now, don't start reacting aggressively....
 

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Randy, listen. He said he thought, and the quote is right there, that robbing doesn't lose roles. If he knew his role had been robbed, why would he say that robbing didn't take away roles? That's all I want to know.

Well, yeah, he worded it weirdly seeing he should know. Not sure if it's mistype/thought or if it's genuine slipup aka lie. Because, let's face it, quite many players (myself obviously included) are prone to making tons of mistakes in their language.


Also, I don't think the case on Kaisersohaib was ever particularly strong. I think it's good he's being more active.

I believe I said that even when he got run up - then again, I didn't have any better ideas then, either, so less than stellar case was better than no case at all.


So can I, suppose as I can be fairly aggressive my sympathy tends to go towards him slightly and IIRC I've been on the back end of a Cyms-obsession at some point too.

Yeah.


Fuck this "obsession" bullshit. I noticed a strange change in behavior that I found suspicious yesterday, and I poked him to test it. As a result, I decided to vote for him today because of his reaction.

It does look a bit obsessive to vote same guy in two different roles. ;)


I don't see what he'd gain from lying though?

Yep, that's a good point. Why bring up the van Helsing in the first place since nobody knows about it either way, especially if it's just a lie? I think some wording error is the most likely explanation.
 

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Fuck this "obsession" bullshit. I noticed a strange change in behavior that I found suspicious yesterday, and I poked him to test it. As a result, I decided to vote for him today because of his reaction.
This is however not the first time you are "obsessed" or "fixated" at me, you have wanted me out of Werewolf for a long time and you have been against me in almost every game we were in, so I find that very stupid of you, I normally just ignore you, but this is too much.
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(( Seriously though I am sick and tired of this crap, let's move on and find some probable wolves ))