Werewolf CLXIII: The Last Council of Mankind

[Gen. Skobelev]

I'm not lying to you. In a race between J. Pass and Panzer, I'm voting Panzer.

Quite simplistic view when we have 3-way tie at 6 votes, 2 candidates at 5 votes and one 4-vote candidate. Though of course as the third 6-vote candidate you would like it to be two-party race...

edit: ah well, votes move around...

 

[Falc]

No interest in Puchas? Fine.

UNVOTE PUCHAS
VOTE ROVSEA

We really need a tie today, this thread needs more lebensraum.

 

[Arkasas]

Unvote Panzer
Vote Comm Cody

Four way TIEs are pretty.

 

[tonkatoy5]

The crackhead actually has a point here....

I'm not lying to you. In a race between J. Pass and Panzer, I'm voting Panzer.

why?

 

[THE_SPLIT]

Arkasas, dude, you are doing exactly what cracktoy said you would and not even blushing

 

[Arkasas]

why?

J. Pass hasn't played in a while. Panzer plays too much.

Watch as he says that's a stupid reason.

 

[Gen. Skobelev]

We really need a tie today, this thread needs more lebensraum.

Keep on going like that and the resident commies will start with you.

 

[johho888]

Only in 1 of the 14 games he's run, WW CXLIX.

As far as I'm aware this is the third game with such rules in the last three years.

Nope, I never bothered with "proper" unvotes in order to count a vote as long as the intention was clear.

 

[THE_SPLIT]

Actually looking at this, there are a good number of people who are jumping to me as possible baddies right now....
Also what Katije is doing - first with the fake bunny vote, and now with yakman vote stinks to high hell of a wolf move.....

 

[Kaetje]

So you just wasted your vote. Good job...

It's over 5 hours till deadline. Anything can happen still. And for this moment I'm not convinced panzer is actually a bad guy and I have no clue why the others are in the line up. But yakman trying to convince us madchemist is a baddie without any evidence for it us suspicious.

 

[tamius23]

Unofficial votecount​

Arkasas (6) - humancalculator [1459], Dr.Livingstone [1668], tonkatoy5 [1453 Panzer -> 1671], Cliges [1642 Puchas -> 1698], Wagonlitz [1451 Dr.Livingstone -> 1596 Rovsea -> 1768], snoopdogg [1619 randakar -> 1843]
Rovsea (6) - Panzer Commader [1464 Nautilu -> 1517], ShoGuL [1568], Kaisersohaib [1452 Puchas -> 1465* Arkasas -> 1504 EUROO7 -> 1602], Gots [1650], jcucc [1757], Falc [1822 Puchas -> 1882]
J. Passepartout (6) - tamius23 [1513 punkbob -> 1579], Rovsea [1455 ShoGuL -> 1495 Kaisersohaib -> 1556 unvote -> 1654], Daffius [1539 Falc -> 1744], Nautilu [1779], Ithvan [1749 Cymsdale -> 1813], AsdfeZxcas [1442 naxhi24 -> 1588 Kaisersohaib -> 1823]
Comm Cody (6) - madchemist [1655], Dadarian [1683 jonti-h -> 1688], randakar [1733 Gen. Skobelev -> 1740 snoopdogg -> 1740], Plank of Wood [1506 tonkatoy5 -> 1553 LatinKaiser -> 1752], johho888 [1754], Arkasas [1456 tonkatoy5 -> 1629 Puchas -> 1866 Panzer -> 1883]

Kaisersohaib (4) - EUROO7 [1502], enkhuush [1679], narref [1734], Gen. Marshall [1769 Arkasas -> 1770]
Panzer Commader (4) - THE_SPLIT [1440], Cymsdale [1460], LatinKaiser [1549], J. Passepartout [1574]

Yakman (2) - Lemeard [1540 Kaisersohaib -> 1620 Rovsea -> 1651], Kaetje [1724 jcucc -> 1739 Panzer -> 1879]

Puchas (1) - Gen. Skobelev [1449]
tamius23 (1) - Galbatorix994 [1450]
madchemist (1) - Yakman [1509]
aedan777 (1) - the_hdk [1512]
THE_SPLIT (1) - Teep [1559]
snoopdogg (1) - sbr [1593]
Gen. Marshall (1) - aedan777 [1652]
Dadarian (1) - Comm Cody [1571 Panzer -> 1693]
EUROO7 (1) - k-59 [1719]
punkbob (1) - jonti-h [1751]
k-59 (1) - Rascar Capac [1874]

How's this? Have I missed someone?

 

[THE_SPLIT]

madchemist is a baddie without any evidence for it us suspicious.

I do not think Yakman is trying to do this at all... and the standard it is X hours before the deadline, so I disclaim all responsibility for wasting my vote is not a really good argument...

 

[tonkatoy5]

J. Pass hasn't played in a while. Panzer plays too much.

Watch as he says that's a stupid reason.

Well you said this yesterday,

I don't. As aedan would tell you, I have a track record of killing my packmates. If Panzer and I were wolves together, I would be crowing about his wolfishness as fiercely as I am currently crowing about his innocence.

Better to kill someone at random than to kill someone trying to think about the game.

And once again, why would I be defending anyone if I was a wolf? If you are a wolf, you don't defend villagers, you hop on the bandwagon and save your own skins. You don't defend packmates, either, you either pull a throwaway or you jump on the wagon at the eleventh hour. If you ever had any skill at Werewolf, Tonka, it's been lost during your absence.

It's almost like you are doing exactly what you said a wolf should do yesterday if you and panzer were truly packmates...

 

[Arkasas]

Well you said this yesterday,

It's almost like you are doing exactly what you said a wolf should do yesterday if you and panzer were truly packmates...

I'm not trying to defend Panzer anymore. I'm trying to protect myself.

 

[AsdfeZxcas]

It's over 5 hours till deadline. Anything can happen still. And for this moment I'm not convinced panzer is actually a bad guy and I have no clue why the others are in the line up. But yakman trying to convince us madchemist is a baddie without any evidence for it us suspicious.

So I assume you'll eventually change your vote?

 

[tonkatoy5]

I'm not trying to defend Panzer anymore. I'm trying to protect myself.

okay but why not take the option that would solve both issues and go after Pass? Also you are making no attempt to save yourself as currently you are making ties so obviously if your goal is to save yourself you must be planning on breaking the tie that you are making. Which is actually normal behavior but I fail to see why you've suddenly taken such a weird turn on the panzer issue...

 

[AsdfeZxcas]

Well you said this yesterday,

It's almost like you are doing exactly what you said a wolf should do yesterday if you and panzer were truly packmates...

That is a good point, and I think I'm fully convinced now of what I shall do. Shall we tie the 2? I don't think we should have a massive tie, but I would be fine with a Panzer-Arkasas tie.

Unvote J. Passepartout
Vote Panzer

 

[Arkasas]

While we're on that subject, was I the only one who interpreted it thus? As a lot of my reasoning is based on that hypothesis, and I might have misinterpreted his post.

If I did, whoops.

I took the "I can't explain why part" as "I have inside info that i cannot disclose without getting me or someone else hunted"

I see. That changes things.

I'm still not sure that Panzer is a baddie, but I'm done defending him until Cymsdale shows up.

Because?

 

[Gen. Marshall]

May I propose another candidate for the TIE?

unvote panzer commander
Vote yakman

Yakman, you'd better give me a good reason to switch this vote to madchemist (the one whom you say is a vampire now) or it stays on you.

 

[Kaetje]

Actually looking at this, there are a good number of people who are jumping to me as possible baddies right now....
Also what Katije is doing - first with the fake bunny vote, and now with yakman vote stinks to high hell of a wolf move.....

What fake bunny vote? Toy mean the jjpuc or what's his name vote?
I made that vote this morning after reading the night update and before reading the 8 pages that where filled during the night. I still think his 2159 vote was suspicious. Even though it was a sham day 0 voting. But I can hold on to that suspicion for later on.
As for Panzer "knowing" stuff he wasn't supposed to know, Imho it's all still vague. And then yakman starts spouting unfounded accusations as well. So yeah I vote Yakman.