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Gen. Skobelev

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That's just capitalist propaganda! All true soviets know that I would willingly sacrifice myself for them.

*your disagreement has been noted*

Lord Acton is above the name-calling propaganda.


It's a philosophical lesson.

Somehow I can see you giving that as answer in multitude of otherwise embarrassing situations you might be caught in. *cue lady Jonti*


Dont blame me for shooting you then....

So you are saying that you want the sham vote prize after all?
 

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Lord Acton is above the name-calling propaganda.




So you are saying that you want the sham vote prize after all?
he is saying that you are a class enemy to the proletariat and must be excorcised with the violence of the working mob!
 

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he is saying that you are a class enemy to the proletariat and must be excorcised with the violence of the working mob!

Liberty is not the power of doing what we like, but the right to do what we ought.
 

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Liberty is not the power of doing what we like, but the right to do what we ought.
A social policy founded on middle -class cowardice, which consists in always surrendering before the threat of violence, cannot fail to engender the idea that the middle class is condemned to death, and that its disappearance is only a matter of time. Thus every conflict which gives rise to violence becomes a vanguard fight, and nobody can foresee what will arise from such engagements ; although the great battle never comes to a head, yet each time they come to blows the strikers hope that it is the beginning of the great Napoleonic battle (that which will definitely crush the vanquished) ; in this way the practice of strikes engenders the notion of a catastrophic revolution.
 

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As a regular slightly retar... tired villager Greger moves himself towards a crowd of people as if he had just learnt how to stand on two legs. Almost like a zombie but without the constant cries for brains and drooling... perhaps a little bit of drooling but not for brains anyway. Once reaching this cheering crowd of people shouting out the name of Madchemist Greger has no clue what is going on, but likes how the name rhymes with bad merits, which is exactly what he has on his CV. He starts to shout along.

VOTE MADCHEMIST

(( hope it's not too late for this shamvote :) ))
 

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(( hope it's not too late for this shamvote :) ))

Still ~4,5 hours until deadline.




madchemist: 7
LatinKaiser [1002]
enkhuush [1110]
Falc [1148]
Nautilu [948 Nautilu -> 1210]
J. Passepartout [1017 Wagonlitz -> 1215]
Gen. Marshall [1200 Gen. Marshall -> 1264 THE_SPLIT -> 1265]
Gots [1287]

johho888: 5
Cliges [966]
Gen. Skobelev [982]
Rysz [1190]
AsdfeZxcas [954 Wagonlitz -> 1233 THE_SPLIT -> 1239]
tonkatoy5 [989 marty99 -> 1104 THE_SPLIT -> 1253]

THE_SPLIT: 4
Yakman [959]
snoopdogg [1070]
Ithvan [942 Heidegger -> 1226]
Daffius [1187 Wagonlitz -> 1240]

Wagonlitz: 4
Wagonlitz [924 Kaetje -> 935]
jonti-h [1183]
Comm Cody [965 Comm Cody -> 1219]
THE_SPLIT [1075 THE_SPLIT -> 1237]

Arkasas: 2
Arkasas [945]
johho888 [960]

aedan777: 2
aedan777 [939]
EUROO7 [944]

Panzer Commader: 2
Rascar Capac [983]
Panzer Commader [961 Gen. Skobelev -> 976 seer -> 981 Gen. Skobelev -> 987]

Cliges: 2
narref [1013]
jcucc [1101]

Rovsea: 2
Kaetje [955 Lemeard -> 1149]
Rovsea [951 Kaetje -> 997 Rovsea -> 1123 LatinKaiser -> 1204]

.: 2
Plank of Wood [974]
randakar [953 the bunny -> 1154 THE_SPLIT -> 1263]

Chieron: 1
madchemist [963]

Dr.Livingstone: 1
tamius23 [971]

He who shall not be named: 1
alxeu [973]

Plank of Wood: 1
Suirantes [978]

Humancalculator: 1
Humancalculator [979]

AsdfeZxcas: 1
Chieron [985]

ShoGul: 1
ShoGul [995]

the newbs: 1
Dr.Livingstone [937 Arkasas -> 1001]

k-59: 1
Dadarian [967 marty99 -> 967 madchemist -> 1115]
Cymsdale [1043 Wagonlitz -> 1260]

Kaiserohaib: 1
Kaiserohaib [1117]

Daffius: 1
Galbatorix994 [1193]

Gen. Skobelev: 1
the_hdk [1211]


not voted: 8
Lemeard
k-59
sbr
Naxhi24
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Walrus
Punkbob
Puchas
 

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Sherlock Holmes looked over the votes. He began to wonder if it was in everyones best interest to have more than one person get the blunderbuss. He figured that it was best to just have one blunderbuss hanging around, lest someone get shot accidentily.

"Whoever we give the blunderbuss to, we must give it to one, and only one."
 

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It would be perhaps a loss to the winner but it might be a boon for village. Brutal would be expended on the vote winner thus leaving one brutal less for JL. And if there has emerged JL by the time brutal wolf gets lynched the wolf would have to make a decision whether to whack JL spokesman (or try to hunt JL scanners or whatever) or to take out the day 0 vote winner hunter.
It is indeed a good villager sacrifice; I won't make it though, since I don't want to not really play in two bigs in a row. Had EURO not decided that it is fun as a goodie to just shoot a random player, then I might have considered it.

Not in this form, at least. And not as badly.
There are other, more subtle ways money corrupts government officials after they have risen into positions of power, though. Paid lobbying is one. Corporations giving ex-politicians cozy positions on their boards after they retire is another.
I cannot be entirely sure of course, but I also don't think we have much of that. Most former politicians either go back to doing what they did before being elected, or become political analysts for the media. I don't know how much lobbying there is, but considering that unions and nature preservation groups and similar things often have a large influence on things touching on their interests, there cannot be too much big business interferring with the politicians. The only example I can come up with is the late Mærsk McKinney Møller (chairman of APM Mærsk and son of APM), who when the right wing government was planning something (cannot remember what) threatened to move the administration of Mærsk out of Denmark---I think the proposal was adjusted. But Mærsk was a dinosaur who controlled the biggest shipping company in the world and a large oil business; he also were known for suddenly deciding that Denmark needed a gift, like when he around 2000 decided to give Copenhagen a billion $ opera house---it gave him legacy and earned him the elephant order as one of the only civilians ever, but otherwise it wasn't a profitable move at all. When he died analysts claimed that the heirs don't have the same kind of power and cannot just shell out a few billion for an opera house or some hundred million for a Danish school for the Danish minority in Schleswig even though the family fonds controlling the company still have more money than it can spend (Mærsk would have been among the richest on the Forbes list, if he and not the he completely controlled fonds had been the official owners---also the fonds were made to make sure control of the company stayed in the Mærsk family; not for tax reasons); if that is true then the heirs also shouldn't be able to threaten the politicians in the same way.
Other companies have sometimes complained that especially environmental regulations put them ot of business, but years after the laws are passed they still are there and still prosper.

There is also the possibility of creating a 4-way TIE, therefore making sure that nobody gets a hunter trait. However, I think one "sacrifice" to the wolves/brutal will be a good thing, especially if the wolves turn out to be gentlemanly and not hunt the vote winner.

Therefore,

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And how can we know you didn't just nominate yout packmate. If you propose picking somebody else, you cannot also propose this somebody else. That is actually a danger that the wolves could just propose one of their own to take the trait; although the threat of being hunted by other packs would perhaps be enough not to do it.

There are going to be so many zombies in this game.

It's hard to keep up with so many posts.
There indeed are many posts; I personally am glad university doesn't start again until late August.

Also, congrats to THE_SPLIT and Arkasas for somehow making over 100 posts in a WW thread before the game really starts. That's some kind of achievement. Either of their posts on their own are by this stage already bigger than some games. :wacko:
It truly is amasing; I also cannot believe I already have more than 80 posts before the night 1.
 

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Count:

madchemist: 7
LatinKaiser [1002]
Enkhuush [1110]
Falc [1148]
Nautilu [948 nautilu -> 1210]
J. Passepartout [1017 Wagonlitz -> 1215]
Gen. Marshall [1200 Gen. Marshall -> 1264 THE_SPLIT -> 1265]
Lemeard [1287]

johho888: 7
Cliges [966]
Gen. Skobelev [982]
Rysz [1190]
AsdfeZxcas [954 Wagonlitz -> 1233 THE_SPLIT -> 1239]
tonkatoy5 [989 marty -> 1104 THE_SPLIT -> 1253]
Naxhi24 [1292]
THE_SPLIT [1075 THE_SPLIT -> 1237 Wagonlitz -> 1293]

THE_SPLIT: 5
Yakman [959]
Snoopdogg [1070]
Ithvan [942 Heidegger -> 1226]
Daffius [1187 Wagonlitz -> 1240]
EUROO7 [944 aedan -> 1289]

Wagonlitz: 3
Wagonlitz [924 Kaetje -> 935]
Jonti-h [1183]
Comm Cody [965 Comm Cody -> 1219]

Arkasas: 2
Arkasas [945]
Johho888 [960]

Panzer Commader: 2
Rascar Capac [983]
Panzer Commader [961 Skobie -> 976 the seer -> 981 Skobie -> 987]

Cliges: 2
Narref [1013]
Jcucc [1101]

Rovsea: 2
Kaetje [955 Lemeard -> 1149]
Rovsea [951 Kaetje -> 997 Rovsea -> 1123 LK -> 1204]

k-59: 2
Dadarian [967 marty -> 967 madchemist -> 1115]
Cymsdale [1043 Wagonlitz -> 1260]

.: 2
Plank of Wood [974]
Randakar [954 The Bunny! -> 1154 THE_SPLIT -> 1263]

aedan777: 1
aedan777 [939]

Daffius: 1
Galbatorix994 [1193]

Chieron: 1
Madchemist [963]

Dr. Livingstone: 1
Tamius23 [971]

He who shall not be named: 1
Alxeu [973]

Plank of Wood: 1
Suirantes [978]

HC: 1
Humancalculator [979]

AsdfeZxcas: 1
Chieron [985]

ShoGul: 1
ShoGul [995]

The newbs: 1
Dr.Livingstone [937 Arkasas -> 1001]

Kaisersohaib: 1
Kaisersohaib [1117]

Gen. Skobelev: 1
The_hdk [1212]

Livingstone tried voting marshall in 946, but he had voted Arkasas
Livingstone tried unvoting marshall and voting newbs in 970, but he had voted Arkasas
jcucc tried voting madchemist in 1107, but he was already voting Cliges
kaetje tried unvoting Lemeard and voting johho in 1218, but she was voting Rovsea

Not voted: 7
K-59 []
Sbr []
Teep []
Walrus []
Punkbob []
Gots []
Puchas []
 

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"I still think it is unwise to give out 2 blunderbusses, instead of 1," said Holmes. "If we give out 2, it doubles the chance that someone will end up shot accidently. Too many cooks spoil the broth, and too many hunters may spoil the hunt."

Unvote johho
Vote madchemist
 

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I don't see why people are so certain that whomever will get the trait will be hunted immidiately. I mean, isn't that person the best GA/Padre target? It'd be pretty stupid for a pack to do this.


Though if no one else wants it this villager here will gladly "sacrifice" himself. My laptop just died too so until I get a new one I can only participate from a cellphone, which, especially for a game this size, is sub-optimal.
 

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I don't see why people are so certain that whomever will get the trait will be hunted immidiately. I mean, isn't that person the best GA/Padre target? It'd be pretty stupid for a pack to do this.


Though if no one else wants it this villager here will gladly "sacrifice" himself.
THE SPLIT would gladly sacrifice himself in the bold cause of proletariat revolution!
 

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I don't see why people are so certain that whomever will get the trait will be hunted immidiately. I mean, isn't that person the best GA/Padre target? It'd be pretty stupid for a pack to do this.

Hush now, you are spoiling our elaborate trap. Wolves will think of nothing more than getting rid of hunter easily while we have set up GA/padre rotation for the hunter and soon-to-be spokesman of JL. ;)


THE SPLIT would gladly sacrifice himself in the bold cause of proletariat revolution!

Glad to see how happily you are to sacrifice others in the name of people.