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Seems like Narref is getting some resistance in voting. I like that. Will vote Narref. Firstly he is a zombie. Secondly I want to see if there is going to be a push to save him.
Vote Narref
Vote Narref
That is funny, but not what I referred to. I was reffering to episode 11 of Matador, which takes place in 1936 ,where colonel Hackel, upon hearing that the man he just met is a political refugee from Germany, asks: Why are you enemy with mr. Hitler? The colonel really is a special character and likely would have bought Hillah's statement of not being a NAZI.
It is a Danish TV series which ran for 4 seasons ~35 years ago; there is 24 episodes in total. It is something from an age gone by and likely wouldn't have been made---at least not in the same way---if Denmark hadn't had a TV monopoly at the time---the national TV company was sure that people watched what they aired, so ratings didn't really play a role in deciding what to air/produce, since even if people disliked it they would still watch it. And it surely wouldn't be able to be made today.
I don't think there are two episodes from this show that are of the same length, since what decided the length was how much material there was (the show portrais a provincial Danish town between 1929 and 1947) and the difference in length between the shortest (~50 minutes) and the longest episode (~90 minutes) is around 40 minutes---most episodes are 60--70 minutes long. There is also really cared for the details and all the best actors were recruited for the show.
It is possible to get with English subtitles, so if you have some time it is highly recommendable to watch, although you probably wouldn't be able to catch all referrences.
If people are interested I can post the clip where pig seller Oluf Larsen is arrested, because some German soldiers discover the picture of Hitler the pig seller has nailed to the underside of his privy lid.:rofl:
There originally also was a picture of Mussolini in the privy, but it was taken down earlier by his wife, who thought it unwise to have those pictures in the privy when occupied by the Germans---the picture of Stalin was taken down by the pig seller and put on the kitchen wall when Germany invaded Russia.
Lemeard's actions still infringe multiple people.
Indeed.
Sniping to Arkasas? Some people did that, but kaetje didn't even snipe.
So true.
That is a very good point.
I doubt we can today, since he most likely is protected by the nihilist.
Well Skobie has already taken some of my arguments; but not all of them.
We still need to look at the day one snipes for two reasons: Lemeard's sniping and Panzer voting himself.
As I already mentioned in days past when going after Lemeard, he either broke a threeway or made any kind of TIE less likely.
With 50 minutes left Lemeard changes from Cody to Arkasas and makes a twoway between Arkasas and Panzer.
With 25 minutes left Lemeard changes from Arkasas to Cody and makes a twoway between Cody and Panzer. In both instances he made a noTIE into a twoway.
Now we are 1 minute from deadline. Rovsea, Panzer and Arkasas has 9 votes each, whereas Cody has 8.
When Lemeard snipes Arkasas has just sniped to Panzer; we don't know if Lemeard has seen this at the time of his snipe. Either way sniping from Cody to Panzer makes a TIE less likely---a TIE he has remade multiple times for at least an hour. Lemeard also never voted Rovsea besides once during the early hours of the day.
He was a baddie and baddies should seek as much death and carnage, so his actions seems really strange. Just look at THE_SPLIT wolf, who makes an attempt at reTIEing later during the sniping minute.
This was likely an attempt at self preservation, but it still is somewhat strange, since Rovsea at that time is completely sidetracked and out of danger; it is also made so late that Rovsea without a doubt knows he isn't in danger anymore.
As already mentioned Panzer's selfvote could be a red herring, but if it wasn't then it most likely was an attempt to save Arkasas, who would have been TIEed with Panzer had Panzer sniped to Arkasas and not himself.
Lemeard is from a different pack than Panzer. Considering how he again and again reTIEed until the sniping minute, it appears that he tried to save someone. Combine that with him TIEing Arkasas and Panzer 50 minutes before deadline---a TIE which reasonably could have stood until deadline---and him never voting Rovsea later in the day and Rovsea appears as the most likely save out of Arkasas and Rovsea. Furthermore Rovsea posted those posts towards kaisersohaib that seemed strange---I will maybe dig them up later. In all Rovsea looks like a good suspect for a member of the NSDAP; he also most likely isn't lynch protected by the nihilist, since he hasn't really been a suspect since day 1.
Vote Rovsea
Sorry marty for not unvoting; I had forgotten my RP vote on Herr Hitler.
Count:
narref: 4
tamius23 [3243]
Dadarian [3256]
sbr [3317]
Nautilu [3342]
snoopdogg: 3
k-59 [3305]
enkhuush [3311]
Gen. Marshall [3336]
Falc: 2
Hax [3274]
Kaiserohaib [3235 kaetje -> 3283]
Rascar Capac: 2
AsdfeZxcas [3281]
randakar [3332 narref -> 3332]
Rovsea: 2
ShoGul [3318]
Wagonlitz [3266 Falc -> 3345]
Rysz: 1
Kaetje [3233]
tamius: 1
narref [3278]
k-59: 1
snoopdogg [3252 sbr -> 3304 narref -> 3306]
kaetje: 1
Humancalculator [3314]
punkbob: 1
madchemist [3333]
Not voted: 27
J. Passepartout []
Rovsea []
Arkasas []
Walrus []
Falc []
Ithvan []
johho888 []
EUROO7 []
Gen. Skobelev []
Cymsdale []
Rysz []
LatinKaiser []
tonkatoy5 []
Cliges []
alxeu []
jonti-h []
Plank of Wood []
Daffius []
Chieron []
jcucc []
Gots []
Rascar Capac []
Teep []
Galbatorix994 []
Punkbob []
Dr.Livingstone []
naxhi24 []
Count:
narref: 4
tamius23 [3243]
Dadarian [3256]
sbr [3317]
Nautilu [3342]
snoopdogg: 3
k-59 [3305]
enkhuush [3311]
Gen. Marshall [3336]
Falc: 2
Hax [3274]
Kaiserohaib [3235 kaetje -> 3283]
Rascar Capac: 2
AsdfeZxcas [3281]
randakar [3332 narref -> 3332]
Rovsea: 2
ShoGul [3318]
Wagonlitz [3266 Falc -> 3345]
Rysz: 1
Kaetje [3233]
tamius: 1
narref [3278]
k-59: 1
snoopdogg [3252 sbr -> 3304 narref -> 3306]
kaetje: 1
Humancalculator [3314]
punkbob: 1
madchemist [3333]
Not voted: 27
J. Passepartout []
Rovsea []
Arkasas []
Walrus []
Falc []
Ithvan []
johho888 []
EUROO7 []
Gen. Skobelev []
Cymsdale []
Rysz []
LatinKaiser []
tonkatoy5 []
Cliges []
alxeu []
jonti-h []
Plank of Wood []
Daffius []
Chieron []
jcucc []
Gots []
Rascar Capac []
Teep []
Galbatorix994 []
Punkbob []
Dr.Livingstone []
naxhi24 []
I agree with the CAWZ voting, but we shouldn't let that get in the way of lynching wolves. I suggest a TIE between narref and someone else. Taking my own advice, I will
vote snoopdogg
vote snoopdogg
I would pronounce it with an æ, but pronunciation is mainly dependent on your language/accent, right? So different people from different countries may pronounce it differently.
Argumentation? Voting without presenting arguments is nearly useless; even if you aren't sure the arguments are watertight, it is still better to present them.
Pronunciation indeed is depending on especially language. Although given the only living languages æ is used in are the Scandinavian ones, we might pronounce æ similarly.
This game is so huge, I'm feeling a lot of analysis paralysis with the sheer number of players. I think the biggest threat at the moment is the sorcerer, because I do not like the sound of that lynch protection one bit. Which means we can't afford to make it too obvious who we will focus on the next day. I don't recall who said it above, but it does make some sense that they might protect Ark even if he was a goodie, simply to disrupt the village. Unfortunately, we have very little to go on to root who HDK's master might be.
I'm going to scan through the colored vote count and just report my random observations as I go along...
Day One
Arkasas: Biggest defender of Panzer, eventually votes for him near the end. It's difficult for me to believe that he would be defending his packmate as strongly as he did, but he pretty much doomed himself into being a lynch candidate until he ends up dead. On the bright side, he probably made himself hunt-immune.
jcucc: No activity until he jumps onto Panzer at the end because he "hates ties". Could be an alibi vote, could be he just hates ties. If he didn't want a tie, he probably should have made an argument for it instead of just zombieing until sniping at the end though.
Rovsea: New player, but has shown to be pretty good at taking stabs at analysis... before this game. Now, just kinda goes wild, votes Panzer ONLY after he outs himself, and then kinda goes radio silent from that point forward (presumably busy over the weekend, and I have no reason to not believe this). However, I note that while Rovsea was a hovering as a top candidate during that day, his previous votes were for none of the other top ones. Avoiding voting for Panzer AND avoiding Ark, even though both would have been solid choices for self-preservation. Honestly, Rovsea's behavior has been different enough from when he was a villager last game that I'm inclined to put him at the top of my suspect list.
Kaetje: A lot of unexplained vote switching near deadline. Likes Panzer, doesn't like Panzer, likes Panzer again, how about Comm Cody, ultimately lands on Arkasas. There should be a term for a vote switcher who alternates a lot and then ultimately lands on someone they never considered an option up until the end. So why ultimately land on Ark? Was it just to go for a tie? Why the schitzo voting on and off Panzer? This does not seem like villager behavior to me, it reeks of serving multiple agendas (get an alibi, spread some confusion AND try to save a packmate (or tie him)?) I'd be happy seeing Kaetju and Rovsea be run up I think.
I will think on this more later, but I want to get this in now so the forum doesn't eat it.
EDIT: Sigh, this game moves too quick, lots of posts while I was typing that... better get caught up, AGAIN!
I'm going to scan through the colored vote count and just report my random observations as I go along...
Day One
Arkasas: Biggest defender of Panzer, eventually votes for him near the end. It's difficult for me to believe that he would be defending his packmate as strongly as he did, but he pretty much doomed himself into being a lynch candidate until he ends up dead. On the bright side, he probably made himself hunt-immune.
jcucc: No activity until he jumps onto Panzer at the end because he "hates ties". Could be an alibi vote, could be he just hates ties. If he didn't want a tie, he probably should have made an argument for it instead of just zombieing until sniping at the end though.
Rovsea: New player, but has shown to be pretty good at taking stabs at analysis... before this game. Now, just kinda goes wild, votes Panzer ONLY after he outs himself, and then kinda goes radio silent from that point forward (presumably busy over the weekend, and I have no reason to not believe this). However, I note that while Rovsea was a hovering as a top candidate during that day, his previous votes were for none of the other top ones. Avoiding voting for Panzer AND avoiding Ark, even though both would have been solid choices for self-preservation. Honestly, Rovsea's behavior has been different enough from when he was a villager last game that I'm inclined to put him at the top of my suspect list.
Kaetje: A lot of unexplained vote switching near deadline. Likes Panzer, doesn't like Panzer, likes Panzer again, how about Comm Cody, ultimately lands on Arkasas. There should be a term for a vote switcher who alternates a lot and then ultimately lands on someone they never considered an option up until the end. So why ultimately land on Ark? Was it just to go for a tie? Why the schitzo voting on and off Panzer? This does not seem like villager behavior to me, it reeks of serving multiple agendas (get an alibi, spread some confusion AND try to save a packmate (or tie him)?) I'd be happy seeing Kaetju and Rovsea be run up I think.
I will think on this more later, but I want to get this in now so the forum doesn't eat it.
EDIT: Sigh, this game moves too quick, lots of posts while I was typing that... better get caught up, AGAIN!
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:rofl: Think you are missing an 'n', or do you actually want the forum to eat your posts?
I have some suspicions that Arkasas might be a baddie in a different pack than Panzer. I think it fits the strange defending behavior. A villager is not going to be sure about much of anything this early in the game, and is certainly not going to want to SEEM to be sure as well. Defending a packmate that obviously is also a bad move for a packmate. But.. a baddie from a different pack is not going to know Panzer's role, but might find it to be a good opportunity to score goodie points by defending someone he thinks Cymsdale is just being stupid about.
Who is for targeting Arkasas, Rosvea, and Narref today? We get two prime candidate and a zombie with all the possible benefits to analysis and so on and so forth that doing this might provide.
VOTE ROSVEA since I've got to vote sometime.
VOTE ROSVEA since I've got to vote sometime.
We are not targeting Arkasas today, since he is the by far most likely person to be lynch protected by the nihilist today. Other frontrunners from yesterday might also be a bad choise to run up, but Arkasas by far is someone that shouldn't be run up.