Perhaps someone has a guilty conscience?Madchemist, walrus, arkasas?
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But yes, anyway - we lynch Split tonight, and yes, he will be the sorcerer. Then if a hunter doesn't hunt madchemist we lynch him tomorrow. Once they're both dead we resume normal service.
Madchemist, walrus, arkasas?
Ah. Well, Madchemist doesn't really count. He's a dead duck as far as I'm concerned.
Perhaps someone has a guilty conscience?
Always .. not about this thing, though
I'd be really surprised if there's another hunter. There's already been way too many landmines for the wolves, with three known one eye opens, two witnesses, and two hunters already.
No you are not lynching split the villager today.... I am not the sorc and I will not have this village blindly following this reatrded outing.....
With the High sorcerer being able to curse people I agree he should be our priority. Also that would confirm Arkasas' source.
We should aim for a TIE and any remaing hunter/van Helsing should have a conditional order to shoot however escapes the nose (or is it noose?)
unvote madchemist, vote THE_SPLIT
We should aim for a TIE and any remaing hunter/van Helsing should have a conditional order to shoot however escapes the nose (or is it noose?)
unvote madchemist, vote THE_SPLIT
It's noose. Why you would have SPLIT or madchemist in your nose is a question I'm not sure I want answered.
Why do I even bother.... almost every game I try my best for the village only to get fake outed, lynched.... every fcking game....
[video=youtube;6Dakd7EIgBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Dakd7EIgBE[/video]
.. and if that one doesn't work, like it does for me at the moment:
[video=youtube;a_0qZm2dZpU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_0qZm2dZpU[/video]
Big post is big, and uh...
Yeah, okay, that's more likely.
Or maybe he just doesn't want to get hunted, as being a goodie apprentice is a good target for a sorc curse -> hunt combo?
Well there was that one time where I was a seer and I went around and convinced the entire baddie side that I was a sorc... That took some manipulation. I mean, for the most part you're right. Just look at the attempted snoopdogg outing for me for example. But I think thinking like that is a bit too black and white, because then you can look at the example of Panzer attempting to be the sorc apprentice in PMs to fish for information, or see how people might react to information like that...
For example, if Arkasas got fed that information and the next couple of nights you find Panzer dead from a hunt, well, the guy who fed him information just gained a lot of stuff on Arkasas.
Would have to check.
I was leading the spearhead to get Snoop lynched over his false outing the previous day. Snoop attempted a last minute bid to save himself by sending information to Panzer in PMs, partially quoting a conversation between myself and Snoop in PMs, and getting Panzer to think I was a cultist and should be lynched. Panzer proceeded to do an outing of me, which actually worked, because I ended up tied with Snoop, but then I sent Panzer PMs as well and got him to recant on the outing, at which point people took their votes off me and lynched Snoop as they should've.
Which now that I think about it only points to me and snoop being packmates, but that's a discussion for another time.
Also this, yeah. We don't actually know if there is a source.
In case you didn't actually see it, Panzer was doing a mockery of the whole 'trust me just because I say words' thing. Which is what Randy is sorta doing by thinking Arkasas -has- to have a source... plus what we always do when there is an official outing. He isn't actually saying he has proof Randy is a wolf, he's just making a mockery of the whole system, basically.
I seem to have missed where Arkasas' source claimed SPLIT was a sorc?
Well your postings in the thread have been... occasionally simply unthruthful, like the one point where you go 'I've never done anything to insinuate I'm anything but a villager!' or something to that effect.
Right, nevermind, I continued reading and now I see all the Arkasas stuff...
However, I find it difficult to believe that Arkasas would just up and give Randy the name of his source, if there even is one, in a PM. There is... seriously no reason to do that. At all.
Now we need a vote count...
Yeah, okay, that's more likely.
Or maybe he just doesn't want to get hunted, as being a goodie apprentice is a good target for a sorc curse -> hunt combo?
Well there was that one time where I was a seer and I went around and convinced the entire baddie side that I was a sorc... That took some manipulation. I mean, for the most part you're right. Just look at the attempted snoopdogg outing for me for example. But I think thinking like that is a bit too black and white, because then you can look at the example of Panzer attempting to be the sorc apprentice in PMs to fish for information, or see how people might react to information like that...
For example, if Arkasas got fed that information and the next couple of nights you find Panzer dead from a hunt, well, the guy who fed him information just gained a lot of stuff on Arkasas.
Would have to check.
I was leading the spearhead to get Snoop lynched over his false outing the previous day. Snoop attempted a last minute bid to save himself by sending information to Panzer in PMs, partially quoting a conversation between myself and Snoop in PMs, and getting Panzer to think I was a cultist and should be lynched. Panzer proceeded to do an outing of me, which actually worked, because I ended up tied with Snoop, but then I sent Panzer PMs as well and got him to recant on the outing, at which point people took their votes off me and lynched Snoop as they should've.
Which now that I think about it only points to me and snoop being packmates, but that's a discussion for another time.
Also this, yeah. We don't actually know if there is a source.
In case you didn't actually see it, Panzer was doing a mockery of the whole 'trust me just because I say words' thing. Which is what Randy is sorta doing by thinking Arkasas -has- to have a source... plus what we always do when there is an official outing. He isn't actually saying he has proof Randy is a wolf, he's just making a mockery of the whole system, basically.
I seem to have missed where Arkasas' source claimed SPLIT was a sorc?
Well your postings in the thread have been... occasionally simply unthruthful, like the one point where you go 'I've never done anything to insinuate I'm anything but a villager!' or something to that effect.
Right, nevermind, I continued reading and now I see all the Arkasas stuff...
However, I find it difficult to believe that Arkasas would just up and give Randy the name of his source, if there even is one, in a PM. There is... seriously no reason to do that. At all.
Now we need a vote count...
I'll go along with the tie if we want to try it.
UNVOTE MADCHEMIST VOTE THE_SPLIT
UNVOTE MADCHEMIST VOTE THE_SPLIT
Frankly, despite wanting to lynch Panzer, I'm not convinced he's a baddie. This is a perfect way to settle that whole discussion by lynching you instead of him, and thus confirming if the other side of the coin is being truthful or not.
Totally unbiased and 100% accurate votecount
Panzer: 1
Madchemist
Teep: 1
Comm. Cody
Randakar: 1
The Super Pope
Madchemist: 12
leksu
tamius23
Teep
Panzer
Eternaly_Lost
Wagonlitz
Gen. Skobelev
THE_SPLIT
the_hdk
Randakar
Hax
aedan777
THE_SPLIT: 5
Najs
Arkasas
walrus
johho888
J. Passepartout
Panzer: 1
Madchemist
Teep: 1
Comm. Cody
Randakar: 1
The Super Pope
Madchemist: 12
leksu
tamius23
Teep
Panzer
Eternaly_Lost
Wagonlitz
Gen. Skobelev
THE_SPLIT
the_hdk
Randakar
Hax
aedan777
THE_SPLIT: 5
Najs
Arkasas
walrus
johho888
J. Passepartout
That one kind of surprised me too, I will tell you. I mean, even given that he might trust me, there's still the little matter of sorcerers putting curses on people.
With that sorcerer in play .. but ah well, I won't lie and say I'm not happy to have a little more information than the average joe here ;-)
Even if I don't buy it, I'm willing to kick its tires and give it a test drive around the parking lot.
Not to be an advocate of the devil here, but even if we assume SPLIT is a sorcerer, it doesn't necessarily mean that Panzer is a sorcerer's apprentice. Remember that the original claim wasn't that he was an *evil* apprentice ..
After SPLIT dies he might be a sorcerer, though .. ;-)
:rofl:
You know, I really like your style. Too bad we're on opposing sides here..
Well as a villager it might make more sense to lynch a confirmed wolf then a fellow villager....Even if I don't buy it, I'm willing to kick its tires and give it a test drive around the parking lot.
One good reason would be that Randy is Arkasas's claimed Apprentice or the other way around. Then Arkasas would know 100% for certain what role Randy has, and it will be his. Meaning there is no reason NOT to tell him everything he gets.
The other good reason is that both Randy and Arkasas are in the same pack of wolves. Then, likewise.
Well I agree both Split and madchemist need to die, it going to be tricky to do so at the same time in a lynch. If they are both evil, they would snipe to save one or the other. It would be better to lynch Split then madchemist due to the orders at night, if we have a hunter that could shoot madchemist.
But even more ideal would be to lynch them both now, so I am going to leave my vote and check back near the deadline and move it to make a TIE if needed between the two.
Well the sorc can't curse his source anyway. So that's not an issue.
The issue is whether you're a goodie or not and what things you could do with that name.