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Someone is either blissfully ignorant about the meaning of "throwaway", or said person has just busted himself into a pristine AOK drug stash.
For the others who may be getting funny ideas to run reis up (a bloody waste of time, make them have to hunt me and preserve the remaining goody roles), not only I voted early in the day, and was busy for most of the day, but I also voted someone who actually got lynched, so it wasn't even a throwaway. Alas, it was a villager, and I can't do miracles without information, which will probably continue to be rather scarce. I'd still take a look at the pileup voters as they could have a stake into whoever gets lynched (though the baddies are not alone in that).
And after another look, Hax does seem to, beyond zombie'ing, also fit the criteria of a bandwagoner.
Indeed and that's why I suggested maybe looking up some of those and I voted one of them. Not my fault if people follow my vote that fast.
Heresy, heresy! Burn the witch!
Though to be honest, most of the votes yesterday were not cast in tight situation - the vote Hax cast was second on seamus2008 and there were couple others with 2 votes. Real throwaway votes were only those late in the cycle where there was real race between couple of candidates but the vote landed on insignificant player not in the race. Early votes usually are throwaways and only in retrospect they may look like meaningful ones. Besides, if Hax activates he can defend himself but last game he was indeed disappointingly inactive, something I happen to frown upon if you haven't noticed.
Hax: 3
Gen. Skobelev [171]
reis91 [173]
alxeu [175]
videonfan: 3
johho888 [172]
Panzer Commader [174 Arkasas -> 180]
snoopdogg [181]
Panzer Commader: 2
Cliges [177]
videonfan [178]
Not voted: 10
Hax []
tonkatoy5 []
aedan777 []
Rysz []
Chieron []
Najs []
Daffius []
EUROO7 []
Wagonlitz []
Arkasas []
Gen. Skobelev [171]
reis91 [173]
alxeu [175]
videonfan: 3
johho888 [172]
Panzer Commader [174 Arkasas -> 180]
snoopdogg [181]
Panzer Commader: 2
Cliges [177]
videonfan [178]
Not voted: 10
Hax []
tonkatoy5 []
aedan777 []
Rysz []
Chieron []
Najs []
Daffius []
EUROO7 []
Wagonlitz []
Arkasas []
Well yes I think we should have two kinds of throwaways actually, those that are made intentionally, which are bad because whoever made them was actively trying to not participate in deciding who to lynch, and those that just happen to land on a non-major candidate, those are less worthy of blame but still pretty bad as it means you get no read info on whomever cast them
What is your opinion on this Gen. Skob?
Why would a villager want to run up the same person 2 days in a row?
Why would a villager want to run up the same person 2 days in a row?
I'm not familiar enough with the psyche of players so I can't say how I would read that. Unfortunately I don't know that much how videonfan plays so no idea if that's typical or not for him, if you find the comment odd maybe it's because you are voted there.
As for the second question, there can be plenty of answers. Sheer laziness, maybe he decided something you said is worth investigating, perhaps he's doing what sbr lamented at one point (the norm to either run again same candidates from day 1 or thos perceived to have "saved" them), maybe he thought your activity is suspicious, could be something else. Perhaps he will elaborate or not. *shrug*
I'll admit there may be some subconscious bias at work here because I am being voted.
As for the second part, the thing is, it's not that he voted me and it just so happened that I was run up yesterday. He voted me specifically because I was run up yesterday. So presumably, had someone else been run up, he would have voted someone else. Or at least so he says. Because somehow it's a good idea to vote the same person everyday. That's what I find odd
When I voted no candidate had more than 2 votes, so it wasn't really a throwaway.
And what is it with people mixing me up with others? Panzer says he always mixes me up with Tonka, and A few months ago Cliges mixed me up with Ithvan for a private outing to johho. Am I that unnoticeable?
I don't mix up Ithvan and aedan anymore.
But maybe you need an avatar for ready identification. I suggest a goofy one from March of the Eagles.
Or Old Glory if you want to be confused with seamus and the_split (when he's not in a Yugoslav mood).
I see panzer making an effort, so I'd say its a bad lynch for now. Of the two running candidates, I'd opt for Hax because of the low profile. He might not be wolf, but with minimal involvement its hard to tell.
Vote HAX
Also, we lynched an old guard yesterday. I'd bet the two remaining are on the other two wagons. And NO, I'm not one of them... but since we do not have a clue on the wolves yet, at least we can try to help the goodies, as that's the only information we have.
What we know is, whoever lynched seamus isn't an old guard: pretty reasonable Fact.
Vote HAX
Also, we lynched an old guard yesterday. I'd bet the two remaining are on the other two wagons. And NO, I'm not one of them... but since we do not have a clue on the wolves yet, at least we can try to help the goodies, as that's the only information we have.
What we know is, whoever lynched seamus isn't an old guard: pretty reasonable Fact.
Nope: villager seamus is hanged - the lost old guard was hunted on first night and the assassin used his extra assassination last night so he has one murder in reserve at the moment.
Reading through the entirety of yesterday didn't make anyone suspicious. If we then take a look on the voteflow of the three main contenders of yesterday:
post __ sea Pan alx
83 alxeu 0 1 0
85 seamus 0 1 1
86 Rysz 0 2 1
88 reis 1 2 1
94 Najs 1 2 2
99 Hax 2 2 2
108 Chieron 2 3 2
110 Panzer 3 3 2
112 EURO 3 4 2
114 snoop 3 4 3
118 johho 3 4 4
124 Skob 4 4 4
136 tonka 5 4 4
137 Skob 4 4 4
139 alxeu 5 3 4
140 seamus 5 4 3
142 Skob 5 5 3
144 snoop 6 5 2
146 snoop 5 5 2
149 Daffius 5 5 3
151 EURO 5 4 4
It mostly looks like people tried to maintain the tie to avoid a runaway bandwagon; Panzer does indeed seem hard to lynch, but there isn't really any information and one shouldn't run up people who was run up the previous day without good arguments. Of those who changed votes most appears to have done it to preserve the tie. The only one which seems a little strange is Daffius' change to alxeu, since 28 minutes before deadline may be a little late to try and reintroduce the third guy; it is possible to do though, so his actions aren't really suspicious.
In all the activity yesterday doesn't really reveal anything. Today there hasn't really been anything yet - alxeu bringing Hax to three votes when no one else had more than one could be suspicious, but one post normally doesn't make a lynch. Since there really isn't anything to go on I will take Gen. Skobelev's advice and vote on inactives. As mentioned I don't like people being run up several days in a row without good arguments - and Panzer is really active - and videonfan has often been active, so I will bring in a new guy. Arkasas fits the case of being inactive so
Vote Arkasas
Vote count:
Hax: 4
Gen. Skobelev [171]
reis91 [173]
alxeu [175]
Daffius [195]
videonfan: 3
johho888 [172]
Panzer Commader [174 Arkasas -> 180]
snoopdogg [181]
Panzer Commader: 2
Cliges [177]
videonfan [178]
alxeu: 1
najs [191]
Arkasas: 1
Wagonlitz [199]
Not voted: 7
EUROO7 []
tonkatoy5 []
Arkasas []
aedan777 []
chieron []
Hax []
Rysz []
By the way do people know of a way to make proper tables, since this ended up really ugly especially since the forum eats additional whitespace.
post __ sea Pan alx
83 alxeu 0 1 0
85 seamus 0 1 1
86 Rysz 0 2 1
88 reis 1 2 1
94 Najs 1 2 2
99 Hax 2 2 2
108 Chieron 2 3 2
110 Panzer 3 3 2
112 EURO 3 4 2
114 snoop 3 4 3
118 johho 3 4 4
124 Skob 4 4 4
136 tonka 5 4 4
137 Skob 4 4 4
139 alxeu 5 3 4
140 seamus 5 4 3
142 Skob 5 5 3
144 snoop 6 5 2
146 snoop 5 5 2
149 Daffius 5 5 3
151 EURO 5 4 4
It mostly looks like people tried to maintain the tie to avoid a runaway bandwagon; Panzer does indeed seem hard to lynch, but there isn't really any information and one shouldn't run up people who was run up the previous day without good arguments. Of those who changed votes most appears to have done it to preserve the tie. The only one which seems a little strange is Daffius' change to alxeu, since 28 minutes before deadline may be a little late to try and reintroduce the third guy; it is possible to do though, so his actions aren't really suspicious.
In all the activity yesterday doesn't really reveal anything. Today there hasn't really been anything yet - alxeu bringing Hax to three votes when no one else had more than one could be suspicious, but one post normally doesn't make a lynch. Since there really isn't anything to go on I will take Gen. Skobelev's advice and vote on inactives. As mentioned I don't like people being run up several days in a row without good arguments - and Panzer is really active - and videonfan has often been active, so I will bring in a new guy. Arkasas fits the case of being inactive so
Vote Arkasas
Vote count:
Hax: 4
Gen. Skobelev [171]
reis91 [173]
alxeu [175]
Daffius [195]
videonfan: 3
johho888 [172]
Panzer Commader [174 Arkasas -> 180]
snoopdogg [181]
Panzer Commader: 2
Cliges [177]
videonfan [178]
alxeu: 1
najs [191]
Arkasas: 1
Wagonlitz [199]
Not voted: 7
EUROO7 []
tonkatoy5 []
Arkasas []
aedan777 []
chieron []
Hax []
Rysz []
By the way do people know of a way to make proper tables, since this ended up really ugly especially since the forum eats additional whitespace.
I am not Somalian, I am Nigerian. And now..
.. anything you got belongs to me, understand?
edit: if you want to build up some sort of chart, Wagonlitz, you better use
Code:
tag to line it up nicely.