Werewolf CCXXXII: Sannikov's Land

[aedan777]

Well I suppose that both raises and resolves several questions about Sleepyhead's outing.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Sad day for Norway, at least the rock lives on.

 

[Tus3]

Well, atleast now I have more time for playing computergames...
Good game everyone...

 

[esemesas]

Sad day for Norway, at least the rock lives on.

The strong winds dislodged the Norwegian flag from the rock sometime later and Swedish explorers claimed it for Sweden.

 

[Dedonus]

Day 1:

Spoiler

Claude LC: 6
Capibara [93]
Hax [100]
Alxeu [Arkasas 80 > 105]
brovahkiin [yakman 81 > 106]
rovsea [alxeu 112 > aedan 115 > 120]
Tus3 [arkasas 102 > 121]

brovahkiin: 5
beartjah [84]
aedan [90]
yakman [91]
alynkio [111]
claude LC [122]

Alxeu: 4
Dedonus [79]
Randakar [92]
k-59 [98]
Sleepyhead [Dedonus 83 > 117]

Alynkio: 1
Avernite [78]

Sleepyhead: 1
Wagonlitz [88]

OrangeYoshi: 1
Arkasas [95]

Beartjah: 1
Yvanoff [103]

yvanoff: 1
TheFatWombat [118]

aedan777: 0

Arkasas: 0

Yakman: 0

Dedonus: 0

Not Voted: OrangeYoshi, Caillean

Day 2:

Spoiler

Yvanoff: 5
Alynkio [148]
Rovsea [Yakman 161 > 166]
Dedonus [Tus3 139 > 170]
Alxeu [Sleepyhead 149 > UNVOTE > 175]
Avernite [OrangeYoshi 129 > 179]

Aedan777: 4
TheFatWombat [162]
Wagonlitz [165]
Hax [tus3 156 > 176]
Capibara [180]

OrangeYoshi: 3
Yakman [134]
beartjah [Caillean 138 > 172]
Arkasas [177]

TheFatWombat: 3
Randakar [Rovsea 135 > 140]
Sleepyhead [Wagonlitz 141 > 173]
Tus3 [174]

Rovsea: 1
OrangeYoshi [137]

Sleepyhead: 1
Yvanoff [144]

Caillean: 0

Tus3: 0

Wagonlitz: 0

Yakman: 0

Not Voted: aedan777 k-59 Caillean

Day 3:

Spoiler

Tus3: 7
beartjah [204]
capibara [220]
alxeu [224]
caillean [237]
Wagonlitz [258]
OrangeYoshi [rovsea 201 > hax 225 > 282]
Hax [alxeu 200 > yakman 217 > Sleepyhead > Hax 234 > OrangeYoshi 261 > Hax 274 > OrangeYoshi 278 > Hax 283 >290]

OrangeYoshi: 5
K-59 [203]
arkasas [tus3 219 > 226]
tus3 [capibara 218 > hax 248 > 259]
sleepyhead [hax 208 > 284]
Avernite [OrangeYoshi 191 > tus3 250 > hax 272 > 289]

capibara: 3
aedan777 [205]
Rovsea [avernite 202 > 235]
TheFatWombat [266]

Hax: 2
randakar [206]
Dedonus [236]

Rovsea: 1
Yakman [207]

Wagonlitz: 1
alynkio [221]

Sleepyhead: 0

Avernite: 0

Yakman: 0

Alxeu: 0

Day 4:

Spoiler

TheFatWombat: 5
aedan777 [343]
Capibara [351]
alxeu [355]
hax [arkasas 358 > 377]
arkasas [alynkio 375 > 379]

alynkio: 4
Randakar [339]
tus3 [352]
Dedonus [arkasas 344 > 353]
TheFatWombat [arkasas 368 > 381]

Arkasas: 4
beartjah [361]
sleepyhead [alxeu 326 > 362]
Avernite [randakar 319 > arkasas 369 > alynkio 371 > 376]
alynkio [thefatwombat 367 > 382]

Dedonus: 1
k-59 [342]

Hax: 1
Yakman [350]

Randakar: 0

alxeu: 0

Not Voted: Caillean, Wagonitz

Day 5: Pre-Outing

Spoiler

Hax:
Yakman [402]

Tus3:
Aedan [404]
Wagonlitz [405]
Alxeu [412]
Arkasas [420]

Alxeu:
Beartjah [406]
Dedonus [407]

Yakman:
Sleepyhead [409]

Arkasas:
Tus3 [413]

Day 5: Post-Outing [424]

Spoiler

Capibara:
Sleepyhead [yakman 409 > 424]
Caillean/Claude LC [426]
Alynkio [428]
Dedonus [alxeu 407 > 430]
Hax [alxeu 427 > 431]
Beartjah [alxeu 406 > tus3 425 > alxeu 429 > 432]
Arkasas [tus3 420 > 434]
Tus3 [arkasas 413 > 435]
Alxeu [tus3 412 > 436]
Aedan [tus3 404 < 437]

Hax: 1
Yakman [402]

Tus3: 1
Wagonlitz [405]

Alxeu: 0

Yakman: 0

Arkasas: 0

 

[randakar]

Damn. Missed the vote.
Sorry about that. Though the village seemed to do fine today, thanks to Aedan

 

[Capibara]

I hate you, Sleepy

 

[k-59]

Yeah, I should be subbed.

 

[randakar]

Not sure how much the coloured vote count helps us.

We have three dead people from the yellow pack. Not sure how big the packs are. We know there is more than just the one, and this is not a big game. At all.

 

[randakar]

Vote k-59

Just because I do not have great ideas I'm going for an inactive. Not Caillean - doubt she would forget about this game so completely if she had pack conversations to draw her attention back. So K-59 will have to do.

 

[esemesas]

Yeah, I should be subbed.

Anyone interested?

 

[esemesas]

alynkio 2.0 will sub in for k-59

 

[aedan777]

Hmm, we're in a bit of a difficult situation here. While the yellows have been dealt a serious blow and we have a lot of info on them, it's likely not in our best interest to fully pursue this presently. Why you may ask? Because 1) We don't even know if the yellow pack is still alive and 2)If it is, they're not the threat, the other pack is. With 23 players in this game, there are probably eight baddies. We've not seen any dead unaligned baddies, and we've seen three dead aligned baddies, so I suspect we're looking at either three baddies from each pack and two unaligneds, or four baddies from each pack and that's it. Actually scratch that, since the cultist rules for this game state they must start attached to a wolf, so only the sorc can be unaligned. Could be a sorc and a starting apprentice though for the two unaligned baddies.

In that case it would actually be better for us if the Yellow pack is still alive, because if they're dead that's five baddies who can all count for parity together out of 11 remaining players, which would mean we're screwed, basically. At least if a yellow wolf is still alive they'll prevent parity and possibly, theoretically be on "our side" in trying to kill red wolves.

Still this all leaves us with the basic goal of trying to kill red wolves... without any information on them to work with. I don't think the vote count will be overly useful in this situation. Only useful thing I can think of is that we could use it to lynch somewhat who's certainly not a yellow. Counter-intuitive though that may seem, it would at least guarantee we're not killing the yellow pack and thus giving a marginally better chance than random guessing.

Actually, wait, that'd be me, wouldn't it, the most certain non-yellow. Nevermind, bad plan.

How about Arkasas, he's been doing a lot of following and staying under the radar, typical baddie behavior from him.

Vote Arkasas

 

[beartjah]

Hmm, we're in a bit of a difficult situation here. While the yellows have been dealt a serious blow and we have a lot of info on them, it's likely not in our best interest to fully pursue this presently. Why you may ask? Because 1) We don't even know if the yellow pack is still alive and 2)If it is, they're not the threat, the other pack is. With 23 players in this game, there are probably eight baddies. We've not seen any dead unaligned baddies, and we've seen three dead aligned baddies, so I suspect we're looking at either three baddies from each pack and two unaligneds, or four baddies from each pack and that's it. Actually scratch that, since the cultist rules for this game state they must start attached to a wolf, so only the sorc can be unaligned. Could be a sorc and a starting apprentice though for the two unaligned baddies.

In that case it would actually be better for us if the Yellow pack is still alive, because if they're dead that's five baddies who can all count for parity together out of 11 remaining players, which would mean we're screwed, basically. At least if a yellow wolf is still alive they'll prevent parity and possibly, theoretically be on "our side" in trying to kill red wolves.

Still this all leaves us with the basic goal of trying to kill red wolves... without any information on them to work with. I don't think the vote count will be overly useful in this situation. Only useful thing I can think of is that we could use it to lynch somewhat who's certainly not a yellow. Counter-intuitive though that may seem, it would at least guarantee we're not killing the yellow pack and thus giving a marginally better chance than random guessing.

Actually, wait, that'd be me, wouldn't it, the most certain non-yellow. Nevermind, bad plan.

How about Arkasas, he's been doing a lot of following and staying under the radar, typical baddie behavior from him.

Vote Arkasas

I mostly agree with this. I'm not sure we want to target Arky first though. The same case also holds for f.e. Wagon and Capibara. Arkasas was run up once already, we might want to diversify our targets to improve the odds of getting red wolves in the running.

For lack of better ideas and to another candidate
VOTE WAGON

Could you expain why you were gunning for the tie to actually go through? Having a tie close to deadline to force activity is good, but going though with a three way tie this early without having certainty any of them were wolves is rather bad I think.

I'd also still like @Hax to answer this.

 

[Yakman]

Day/Night 5

Capibara the cursed Villager with used seerish powers is lynched
Tus3 the formerly 2nd-in-command Werewolf of the NKVD pack is shot by aedan the hunter
Sleepyhead the hunter Cultist of the NKVD pack bound to Tus3 flies into a rage, but fails to kill anyone and dies
alynkio the 5th-in-command Villager is hunted​

oh wow.

okay. this is exciting....

the wolvies shoot themselves in the foot just as @aedan777 shoots them.

fun times.

well... anyhoo... @Sleepyhead and his false outing trick didn't pan out so hot.

VOTE @Arkasas

 

[Wagonlitz]

well... anyhoo... @Sleepyhead and his false outing trick didn't pan out so hot.

Considering that Sleepy would die with Tus no matter what (the cultist version we use has cultists die when their master dies) then it makes sense for it to have happened.

Also meaning that a fake outing well could happen again.

 

[Dedonus]

Hmm...yet another quiet day.

Of the candidate's today, I think I'm going to place my vote on K-59/Alynkio 2.0. Unless I made a mistake on the voting record, K-59 has yet to be run up. Besides this, he has missed two vote already and his day 4 vote looks not quite like a throw-away, but, when his case was not followed, he remained on that vote instead of switching to another player. Day 1 and 3 were better, but not quite enough to make up for the other side of the argument.

VOTE K-59/Alynkio 2.0

 

[Yakman]

Considering that Sleepy would die with Tus no matter what (the cultist version we use has cultists die when their master dies) then it makes sense for it to have happened.

Also meaning that a fake outing well could happen again.

it also means that villagers/scanners might have reached out to him and the JL is compromised.

 

[Hax]

Could you expain why you were gunning for the tie to actually go through? Having a tie close to deadline to force activity is good, but going though with a three way tie this early without having certainty any of them were wolves is rather bad I think.

Because alynkio, Arkasas and TheFatWombat are all zombies. In other words, they are deadweight to this village and the longer the game goes on it will be harder to know whether they are just zombies or evil lurkers. And they are not the only ones, Wagonlitz, Yakman, randy, k-59 and Caillean/Claude LC have all been quiet and not contributing that much to the game. Also what do you mean by "this early", better to do it on day 3 than in the end game when parity is closer.

Also meaning that a fake outing well could happen again.

Good point, something we should have in mind in case there is another outing.

it also means that villagers/scanners might have reached out to him and the JL is compromised.

I think it's quite obvious that the fake outing was a poor attempt to save his wolf master.

 

[Claude LC]

Caillean/Claude LC have all been quiet

Give me a break. I got here yesterday and there was an outing. And calliean missed a ton of votes. So I'm just trying to catch up and be useful