Werewolf CCXXXII: Sannikov's Land

[OrangeYoshi]

Vote Rovsea

Yes, this is my same vote as yesterday. But on top of my reasonings from then, there are the more from above. Let's say hi to Rovsea and Alexeu.

 

[Rovsea]

Run me up if you'd like, but I still stand by both of my votes. There's still not a ton to go off of, mostly because we don't have any real information on baddies yet, once we do a lot of possibilities should open up (we did at least get a decent amount of voting information yesterday). Avernite saving OY is at least a possibility, one that I'd like to lead off with.

We still have a couple people skirting by in the background, namely k-59, who has been very quiet.

Vote Avernite

 

[k-59]

I actually forgot k-59 was even playing to be honest.

Also, that may be aedan's first missed vote ever.

That makes two of us.

Vote OY

Placeholder...hopefully....

 

[beartjah]

So we have alxeu and Rovsea on both of the lynched villagers. Enough for an early case.

VOTE alxeu

Casually leaving Alynkio off the list of "only voted villager"?

Anyway,I don't think "was wrong" is really a case. Especially when there was basically nothing to Base a vote on, this basically turns into "you voted for people that died" more than actual evidence of wolfishness.

Ok, despite wanting to vote Yakman, I do acknowledge that maybe having 10 candidates is a bit too many, so let me be the first to start consolidating.
Yvanoff still hasn't replied since he was called out on his Sleepyhead vote, so why don't we start there.

Unvote Yakman, Vote Yvanoff

So first you say you want less candidates and then you push the fourth guy to two votes?


I'm kinda weirded out be the way the tfw votes sprang up so quickly. Though we should remember that it were only two votes(randy was on tfw for quite some time already by the ), so not truly a bandwagon, but still suspiciously quick after another.

Both rovsea and tus seem to be involved with at least somewhat suspicious stuff again, after already being involved in the day 1 votesnipe it might deserve a bit more attention.
Tus was sort of in the running yesterday, but those were only two votes that melted away, not sure that really tells us much.
Rovsea already has votes I think?
VOTE TUS3

 

[aedan777]

So the way it went down yesterday in the last hour or so was Tus, OrangeYoshi, Yvanoff, and I tied for the lead at two votes each with less than an hour to deadline. Dedonus then tries to consolidate on Yvanoff, ok. Then Beartjah pushes OY back into a tie. Then Sleepyhead votes Fatwombat for voting me shortly beforehand with a poor case and an already saturated field (Fatwombat already had a single vote from Randy). Tus then comes in and also votes Fatwombat and likewise points out the lack of a case on me (and OrangeYoshi). Alxeu then votes Yvanoff, breaking the threeway tie at the time, while also defending Fatwombat. So at this point the votecount is Yvanoff 4, OY 3, Fatwombat 3, Tus 2, and myself 2.

And into this comes Hax switching from Tus to myself, with about half an hour to deadline, widening the field of three vote candidates. Arkasas then also votes OY shortly afterwards, tying it up again. Arkasas basically says he was voting for OY since OY missed a vote previously, but Hax gives no reasoning on me. Suspicious from both of them, not over any possible protection, lead candidate Yvanoff was a villager, but for pushing things into a close race that might end up in a tie, particularly with Hax since I know he was pushing up a villager.

Avernite then breaks the tie again, and pushes Yvanoff up to 5, while also switching off OY leaving no one on 4, and then Capibara pushes me up to four with nary a reason why. Capibara's vote was with just 6 minutes til deadline, so he was risking a possible tie with his vote, for no good reason. It was past the time where "keeping it close" had purpose and to the point where it was dangerous. This reckless risk of a tie makes me suspect that Capibara is a wolf.

Vote Capibara

 

[randakar]

Sorry, slept in and missed the deadline. Surprised to see I nearly got lynched on day 2, and for what? Being the first to put a second vote on someone? It had to be done sooner or later. And the attempt to connect it with the hunt on Brovahkiin is stupid, no wolf is going to try and get a player lynched on day 1 and then hunt them when it doesn't work out. That's just silly.

Yeah, it is. It is used as an argument suprisingly often for something that is almost never accurate.

Utter lack of action is more indicative of time they have for playing, not really role indicative in my opinion.

In the case of Caillean I know for a fact how much is going on with her and where her priorities lie. Besides, the early deadline kinda screws with her ability to vote in time because she isn't used to that.
I'd like to see a vote from her today, I'll poke her about it later.

So we have alxeu and Rovsea on both of the lynched villagers. Enough for an early case.

VOTE alxeu

Easy, easy case. A bit too easy, hax. You can do better.

Vote Hax

We still have a couple people skirting by in the background, namely k-59, who has been very quiet.

K-59 is usually like that.
Not saying it exonerates him or anything. On the contrary, people who do not talk could use some pressure.

So the way it went down yesterday in the last hour or so was Tus, OrangeYoshi, Yvanoff, and I tied for the lead at two votes each with less than an hour to deadline. Dedonus then tries to consolidate on Yvanoff, ok. Then Beartjah pushes OY back into a tie. Then Sleepyhead votes Fatwombat for voting me shortly beforehand with a poor case and an already saturated field (Fatwombat already had a single vote from Randy). Tus then comes in and also votes Fatwombat and likewise points out the lack of a case on me (and OrangeYoshi). Alxeu then votes Yvanoff, breaking the threeway tie at the time, while also defending Fatwombat. So at this point the votecount is Yvanoff 4, OY 3, Fatwombat 3, Tus 2, and myself 2.

And into this comes Hax switching from Tus to myself, with about half an hour to deadline, widening the field of three vote candidates. Arkasas then also votes OY shortly afterwards, tying it up again. Arkasas basically says he was voting for OY since OY missed a vote previously, but Hax gives no reasoning on me. Suspicious from both of them, not over any possible protection, lead candidate Yvanoff was a villager, but for pushing things into a close race that might end up in a tie, particularly with Hax since I know he was pushing up a villager.

Avernite then breaks the tie again, and pushes Yvanoff up to 5, while also switching off OY leaving no one on 4, and then Capibara pushes me up to four with nary a reason why. Capibara's vote was with just 6 minutes til deadline, so he was risking a possible tie with his vote, for no good reason. It was past the time where "keeping it close" had purpose and to the point where it was dangerous. This reckless risk of a tie makes me suspect that Capibara is a wolf.

Heavily tempted to follow this one, but given my Hax vote and your other argument I'm sticking to that one .. for now.

 

[Yakman]

vote @Rovsea

 

[Sleepyhead]

I agree that the rather baseless aedan votes are suspicious enough to motivate votes. Coin flip of the latter two gave the following:

Vote Hax

 

[Hax]

Casually leaving Alynkio off the list of "only voted villager"?

Anyway,I don't think "was wrong" is really a case. Especially when there was basically nothing to Base a vote on, this basically turns into "you voted for people that died" more than actual evidence of wolfishness.

I'm only looking at final votes. Did alynkio vote one of Claude or Yvanoff on day 1 but later switched?

And into this comes Hax switching from Tus to myself, with about half an hour to deadline, widening the field of three vote candidates. Arkasas then also votes OY shortly afterwards, tying it up again. Arkasas basically says he was voting for OY since OY missed a vote previously, but Hax gives no reasoning on me. Suspicious from both of them, not over any possible protection, lead candidate Yvanoff was a villager, but for pushing things into a close race that might end up in a tie, particularly with Hax since I know he was pushing up a villager.

"Let's make the day more interesting." -> give us more vote information for later days

Easy, easy case. A bit too easy, hax. You can do better.

Vote Hax

I agree it's easy but please tell me the difference between an easy and a difficult case on day 3 with no dead waffle seen. What's the difference between my "case" and yours "case", that is, your vote on me?

 

[beartjah]

I'm only looking at final votes. Did alynkio vote one of Claude or Yvanoff on day 1 but later switched?

From the day 1 count:

brovahkiin: 5
beartjah [84]
aedan [90]
yakman [91]
alynkio [111]
claude LC [122]

He also voted villager day 2, so if you're taking that as a criterion then Alynkio ought to be on the list as well(not that I think "he was wrong twice" is a good case to begin with, but that's a different story).

 

[OrangeYoshi]

Talk about a wild ride of all the votes being spread out thinly. And then if you happen to not be around when things are consolidating so you can't change your vote, you're said to be a wolf who did a throwaway vote. Oi.

How about Rovsea, Hax, and Capibara? They're all looking good right now.

 

[Capibara]

How about Rovsea, Hax, and Capibara? They're all looking good right now.

How about just the first two? I really like the last guy.

 

[alxeu]

How about just the first two? I really like the last guy.

I dunno, it sounds like you're trying to protect the third guy with a statement like that.

(Please bear with me today, Tuesdays and Thursdays are terrible days for me in being able to participate. I'll try and get a vote out eventually.)

 

[esemesas]

Votecount, 3 hours to deadline

OrangeYoshi - 2 - Avernite, k-59
Hax - 2 - randakar, Sleepyhead
Rovsea - 2 - OrangeYoshi, Yakman

alxeu - 1 - Hax
Avernite - 1 - Rovsea
Tus3 - 1 - beartjah
Capibara - 1 - aedan

Not voted - 9 -

 

[Hax]

From the day 1 count:

He also voted villager day 2, so if you're taking that as a criterion then Alynkio ought to be on the list as well(not that I think "he was wrong twice" is a good case to begin with, but that's a different story).

Alright let's add alynkio, but hey it's an "easy case" so let's forget about this.

Talk about a wild ride of all the votes being spread out thinly. And then if you happen to not be around when things are consolidating so you can't change your vote, you're said to be a wolf who did a throwaway vote. Oi.

How about Rovsea, Hax, and Capibara? They're all looking good right now.

What about OrangeYoshi?

 

[OrangeYoshi]

What about OrangeYoshi?

I have it from a very trustworthy source that he is a goodie.

 

[Hax]

I have it from a very trustworthy source that he is a goodie.

I believe you. That doesn't sound too easy.

Unvote alxeu
Vote Yakman

 

[Tus3]

Avernite then breaks the tie again, and pushes Yvanoff up to 5, while also switching off OY leaving no one on 4, and then Capibara pushes me up to four with nary a reason why. Capibara's vote was with just 6 minutes til deadline, so he was risking a possible tie with his vote, for no good reason. It was past the time where "keeping it close" had purpose and to the point where it was dangerous. This reckless risk of a tie makes me suspect that Capibara is a wolf.

Seems convincing to me.

Vote Capibara

 

[Arkasas]

Seems convincing to me.

Vote Capibara

Gosh, what a lazy explanation. You must die for this! DIE, FETCHER! /s

But I am going to vote you, to make the list of mildly-serious candidates bigger and see what sticks, and also to incentivize not doing what you just did.

vote Tus3

 

[Capibara]

There isn't much to go on and no solid suspects. So, I'll like to revisit the Tus3 case, specially concerning his Day 1 vote, something that beartahj has already mentioned as well.

VOTE TUS3