Werewolf CCXII: Fur

[Wagonlitz]

And you'd important a latex document into the forum? Printscreen?

At the moment sadly yes.

 

[Wagonlitz]

And you'd important a latex document into the forum? Printscreen?

At the moment sadly yes.

 

[esemesas]

I was going to make a votecount, but seeing how some nice chaps went and made not one, but two, I shall make one around one hour to deadline. Toodles!

 

[Tornadoli]

That's right, just when my 'packmate' starts to gain some traction, I'm gonna obviously retract my alibi vote so everyone realizes that we're both actually wolves. Don't be dense, if you start getting nervous again you might be run up.

Yes, of course you'd jump ship just when your packmate is gaining traction, when else?

Thing is, your post where you explain why you change from jerman to jeray is... pointless, devoid of content. You basically say that you think jeray is suspicious because said something defensive to me (completely ignoring the fact that I pushed the jeray case yesterday). Then you focus on how you find jerman suspicious, and instead of voting jerman, you conclude that you will vote jeray "to put pressure on".

This seems like a twist of the "well, I find player A suspicious, but I won't vote him just yet" baddie tell - where they try to hide behind suspicions but without backing it up with a vote.
Also, your single vote isn't putting any pressure on jeray, at all. If you wanted to put pressure on someone, why not stick to the person you also found suspicious in your post - jerman? He already had a few votes, which would make it much more worthwhile to put pressure on him.

My theory is that you put an alibi vote on jerman, got cold feet when you saw that he is gaining some traction, wrote some absolutely bullshit baddie-sounding post about some flimsy excuse to vote jeray (while constantly noting how, of course, you still find jerman very, very suspicious), then switching votes hoping no one will notice.

 

[Kaisersohaib]

Yes, of course you'd jump ship just when your packmate is gaining traction, when else?

Thing is, your post where you explain why you change from jerman to jeray is... pointless, devoid of content. You basically say that you think jeray is suspicious because said something defensive to me (completely ignoring the fact that I pushed the jeray case yesterday). Then you focus on how you find jerman suspicious, and instead of voting jerman, you conclude that you will vote jeray "to put pressure on".

This seems like a twist of the "well, I find player A suspicious, but I won't vote him just yet" baddie tell - where they try to hide behind suspicions but without backing it up with a vote.
Also, your single vote isn't putting any pressure on jeray, at all. If you wanted to put pressure on someone, why not stick to the person you also found suspicious in your post - jerman? He already had a few votes, which would make it much more worthwhile to put pressure on him.

My theory is that you put an alibi vote on jerman, got cold feet when you saw that he is gaining some traction, wrote some absolutely bullshit baddie-sounding post about some flimsy excuse to vote jeray (while constantly noting how, of course, you still find jerman very, very suspicious), then switching votes hoping no one will notice.

I don't think so, an alibi vote is only good when the packmate isn't in danger, that way you can say you voted him in case he died, and if he didn't, you didn't put him in danger, it'd be not only stupid but useless to retract an already established case when it's clear/likely that said person is going to die, as a wolf, you miss the chance to gain some huge goodie points and only make yourself look like a suspicious idiot.

Not only that, 'putting pressure on someone' is a clear indicator that the voter wants more info from the voted person, which means the vote might or might not be permanent.

I can counter your half-assed defense of pushing jeray yesterday by saying it was an alibi; Jeray wasn't in any danger and you had nothing to lose.

Your theory is based only off hot air, while you desperately try to clear yourself off any suspicions you gained throughout the last few days, and it's not working well.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

much more active as a baddie than otherwise

That doesn't sound right. Perhaps you're more active postcount-wise, but I'm used to seeing solid analysis from you as a villager. Baddie points for the marsupial.

Then again, there were also these two very lazy posts by Jerman, attempting to start an analysis where there is nothing to be analyzed by wanting to 'take a closer look at Torn and Marshall's PM'.

This is a suspiciously good observation... so I do wonder why you unvoted Jerman.

Adding to the post above, it also looked as if Jerman could have been a strong third contender. This post by Kaisersohaib rings massive alarm bells.

We need to lynch Jerman today.

Unvote Spocky
Vote Jerman

I agree, there's something fishy going on here. What was the case on Jerman before all this? I assume those 3 votes weren't all throwaways?

 

[Kaisersohaib]

This is a suspiciously good observation... so I do wonder why you unvoted Jerman.

Because I wanted to hear from Jeray, which is why I pressure voted him. I don't have anything to ask Jerman because I created the case on him.

 

[johho888]

Still don't like lazy voters so lets try another one today, one that actually has some votes already:

vote F72Voyager

 

[madchemist]

Wagon's talking about LaTeX (which I'm sure he knows is written that way and is writing it as latex to be annoying) makes me want to kill him regardless of whether it's a good idea or not.


What's the count?

 

[jeray2000]

Because I wanted to hear from Jeray, which is why I pressure voted him. I don't have anything to ask Jerman because I created the case on him.

If you just wanted to hear from me, are you happy with my explanation and are ready to unvote me?

 

[Kaisersohaib]

If you just wanted to hear from me, are you happy with my explanation and are ready to unvote me?

I guess so.

UNVOTE JERAY
VOTE JERMAN

 

[Spockyt]

Me. Now I normally just do it in emacs as plain code, but if I wanted to do it more fancy, like Spock wanted, then I would use latex. You might remember that I in the past have done fancy counts, posts through latex. It's as easy to use as word, and looks much better.

Eh? Why bring me into this?


Anyway, I'm not sure what the case is against Jerman, but I do find him suspicious. I'll find the post that made me think that in a moment.

 

[johho888]

Spockyt - 5 - LatinKaiser, npstr, Audren, Yakman, Voyager
Cliges - 5 - Marshall, Nautilu, Jacksonian, Hax, Canadian
Hax - 3 - al-Aziz, j-L, Dragon
Health - 3 - Madchemist, Enkhuush, SPLIT
LatinKaiser - 3 - DutchGuy, JCan, EUROO7,
Voyager - 3 - Aedan, Jeray, johho
Jerman - 3 - Health, Tornadoli, Kaisersohaib,
Tornadoli - 2 - Ramius, Steed
Deathbywombat - 1 - Wagonlitz,

 

[De Chatillôn]

Spockyt - 5 - LatinKaiser, npstr, Audren, Yakman, Voyager
Cliges - 5 - Marshall, Nautilu, Jacksonian, Hax, Canadian
Hax - 3 - al-Aziz, j-L, Dragon
Health - 3 - Madchemist, Enkhuush, SPLIT
LatinKaiser - 3 - DutchGuy, JCan, EUROO7,
Voyager - 3 - Aedan, Jeray, johho
Jerman - 3 - Health, Tornadoli, Kaisersohaib,
Tornadoli - 2 - Ramius, Steed
Deathbywombat - 1 - Wagonlitz,

I voted Jacob. I was expecting a lot of people following me but I don't see that at the moment.

 

[Corman50]

I kinda agree with Aedan's argument right now, (once again I am just skimming most of the arguments right now)

Vote F72Voyager

 

[F72Voyager]

Still don't like lazy voters so lets try another one today, one that actually has some votes already:

vote F72Voyager

It's not lazy if a reason is supplied.

 

[Spockyt]

Ah, here it is.

So I did a quick vote analysis since the last vote count. The votes are as follows

Steed 5
Gen. Marshall 4
Rovsea 3
Spocky 3

Rovsea also forgot to unvote Steed before voting Jacksonian.

But yeah, Spocky looks like he's gasping for a reason here



Spocky is going off of Sham Voting to make a case. Which I find weird and wolfish.

Vote Spocky

Here Jerman votes me because apparently using Shamvoting to make a case is weird amd wolfish. He is right. But, he says it is me using Shamvoting as a case, not Tornadoli, or MC. I told him this, but got no responce.


Vote Jerman.

 

[madchemist]

I voted Jacob. I was expecting a lot of people following me but I don't see that at the moment.

If j-L's inactivity was atypical of his recent play (recent being a relative term), I might be more inclined to follow. It's not, unfortunately.


Honestly every case here feels kinda meh still. Nobody in the running (besides Hax, and perhaps not even him) is somebody without a decent reason to be voted, but there's nothing that pops out at me as a slam dunk lynch, either.

 

[Team Wombat]

Based on his Day 1 activity, I was all set to declare Jerman a villager. An active Jerman is a villager Jerman. Then he drops off the radar (two posts today, both really early in the day), and posts this...

Each night that goes without a hunt scares me for this reason.

The game I was turned (mc's big), I brought the possibility of someone being cursed up practically every time in my analysis. Couldn't help myself. Similar situation here?

Vote Jerman

 

[Team Wombat]

That doesn't sound right. Perhaps you're more active postcount-wise, but I'm used to seeing solid analysis from you as a villager. Baddie points for the marsupial.

You're used to seeing good analysis from me as a wolf or a JL member, when I feel an obligation to packmates/known comrades to actually try. You know, Catholic guilt and all.