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So....

Steed makes a rival claim of Torn. Torn denies it, and denies he has a rival. One of the two must be lying.

Yes, I want him dead for his obvious baddie tell. I don't have a rival. He is lying, which makes me think that he is 99% a baddie.

I wanted to see how he plays as don't know most players,, that's why ive sat back and watched.. Tornadoli was desperate to get rid of me as you have seen purely for
his own gain.. Seems odd to get rid of his rival straight from day one, but I suppose he just took his chance.

Further, Gen Marshall claims Torn requested a scan target from Marshall. Torn doesn't deny the PMs, but claims he's trolling. Hmm...

2 out of 3 ain't bad. Torn seems to be playing recklessly to me, like he did in tamius' ginormous Big when he got outed early by delta and managed to wriggle his way out of it for a day. And even if I'm wrong on Torn, we know steed was lying and can string him up tomorrow.

Vote Tornadoli

 

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What? Why? This seems like one of those posts by a wolf who hopes that his vote will just drown in other posts and not be noticed.

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What do you mean 'why'? Meta gaming is horrible and not a good way of making decisions, as most have pointed out already.

At this early stage, I'm more than happy to cast my vote on meta gamers.
 

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Surely, if a wolf would just ignore it, and I didn't ignore it, that means I am not a wolf?
You did ignore it. You gave a scan just in case and they you didn't bother to reply again.

I guess it's low level. Amplifiers, jω-method, Bode plotting, etc.
That actually was what I meant by high level. Low level is going to the fundamentals. I.e. looking at things like current density, potentials, inductions, etc.

How common is the surname Ohm in Denmark today?
As of January 1st this year: 84 persons. (While the databases of course have the numbers in real time they are only published once a year.)
That Green Butcher's clip wasn't funny, it was sad. A mentally challenged person wanting to see a butcher is not comedy.

You should knock off your jokes too Wagon, all of them are either lost in linguistic translation, the culture is too different for your jokes to be funny, or you're just not that funny.

I do like learning about the Danish state religion though, that stuff is fine.
There is more to that clip though. The mentally challenged man, Ejgil, is the twin brother of Bjarne (the man who avoids him). And Ejgil does not like animals getting killed in any way and at another time grabs some dead chickens he finds at the shop and runs away burrying them. And Ejgil is the direct cause of the death of Bjarne and his parents and of Bjarne's pregnant wife and their unborn child. There is a reason that Bjarne avoids him.
Though in the end Bjarne does save Ejgil when Sven (the man standing in the door talking to Ejgil) tries to make Ejgil into sausage.

With regard to the state church then as mentioned the constitution specifically singles it out. Similarly the monarch has to be a member of it, since the monarch is the head of the state church.
Also to be confirmed these days children have to visit church 10 times during the year up to their confirmation. Back when I got confirmed I talked with a now deceased relative about it and he told that back when he was a child in the 1920s there wasn't any requirements about children about to be confirmed had to attend x sermons, since people attended anyway. Instead the priest made a visit to the home of the child and took a talk with the parents.

This is not a bad case though. If that's true. And he was managing account details now. That is, kids, why you always hide your profile.

Unvote k59
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Hiding your profile doesn't do what you think; you want to hide your activity to prevent these meta arguments.

I actually did that from a few games ago when I was trying to do some sneaky sniping stuff. I thought I already reenabled it, apparently not. Should be good now though. So yeah people: this isn't as bad a case by Split as you're thinking, it actually is related to sneaky Werewolf activities, just not this game. The PM is a PM for a reason though, not sharing anything about that.
Ehm how did hiding your profile in any way hide sketchy things? Instead you want to hide your activity.

Btw, does it show my recent activity? When I press on my username it says it, but I don't know whether that's just because it's my own account. Not that I have anything to hide, I'm just curious.
It's because it's your account; we can't see anyway.

I understand, but again, unhiding his profile when called out, is rather incriminating.
He could have simply said, it's private - case closed. But no he unhides and lo and behold all conversations are deleted.
Ehm PMs never are shown on the userpage, so there is nohting deleted.

k-59 eventually came around to a Rovsea vote after some weird other votes (I'm not sure about him, but at the same time I really don't see why he's jumped out to such a massive lead today)
You are forgetting or deliberately disregarding that k-59 stating he found me a poor lynch and yet then went on to vote me into a TIE immediately afterwards. And kept that TIE despite being called out on it and shown he could TIE Spock and Rovs instead. Only when he was continued called out did he swing to Rovs.

That is what makes him really sketchy.




Vote k-59
 

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I also am surprised that Torn isn't chomping at the bit to lynch Spockyt, as he was a strong proponent of that case yesterday and Rovsea was a wolf as Torn suspected. The Torn I know would be castigating all y'all for not voting him by now. But he's voting jeray???
 

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I still think k-59 is the strongest case, but Spockyt and Torn need attention too, and all need to be lynched eventually. At least one of them should die today, if not more.
 

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I think lynching Tornadoli would solve two issues (the rivals and the sorc PM) that would otherwise be brought up again and again. Two for the price of one seems like a good enough bargain for day 2.

vote Tornadoli
 

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Sub too busy to play right now

Sorry, have to drop out- did not realize the volume of posts that a werewolf game generates- sadly don't have time to read them all. Hope everybody else has a good time, though!

Well, at least you managed to inform me. Now if only @Duke Dan "the Man" would rear his head in the thread...

Anyway, potential subs contacted by PM. Also, votecount incoming.
 

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Votecount, 9 hours 35 minutes to deadline

Tornadoli - 6 - ramius, Spockyt, DutchGuy, Jacksonian, deathbywombat, johho
k-59 - 6 - LatinKaiser, aedan, Yakman, Audren, al-Aziz, Wagonlitz

jeray - 3 - SPLIT, Tornadoli, enkhuush
SPLIT - 3 - EUROO, Marshal, JermanTK

Spockyt - 1 - madchemist
enkhuush - 1 - JCan

Not voted - 18
 
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Oh, I though SPLIT had more votes than that. I'm gonna put the all important 3rd vote on him. Meta gaming: no no no.

Unvote enkhuush
Vote THE_SPLIT
 

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Vote k-59

The case on SpockyT is ridiculous. If I'm not misunderstanding it, he said he didn't want Rovsea to die in the Day 0 shamvote. That's something no packmate would ever do, since they'd know it'd incriminate them horribly if their packmate ever died. A villager who just preferred Rovsea over Npstr might very well say that. Then thinking him getting angry over the weak case on him almost getting him lynched is proof he's a wolf is just as silly. It's a fine case back on Day 1 when there's nothing better to go on, but right now it's just silly. Torn and k-59 are both better. Also a wolf would want their packmate to get an extra trait, since they'd know their packmate wouldn't be hunted, or at least be more confident if there are multiple packs.

I'm not sure about Split, I definitely think his case on me is wrong and extremely dumb, but he may be playing another angle here wanting to see my reaction or wanting to see if anyone else goes for his meta-case. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and won't vote him.

For now I'm voting for k-59 in hopes he'll defend himself some more. Torn's posted a lot, relevant to the game for the most part too, and active players are better for the game.
 

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I also am surprised that Torn isn't chomping at the bit to lynch Spockyt, as he was a strong proponent of that case yesterday and Rovsea was a wolf as Torn suspected. The Torn I know would be castigating all y'all for not voting him by now. But he's voting jeray???
he's also getting run up.

gotta survive.
 

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A villager who just preferred Rovsea over Npstr might very well say that.
A villager wouldn't prefer anybody dying over somebody not themselves on day 0, since they know the allegiance of nobody. That is what makes it sketchy.
But I fully agree that Torn and k-59 are sketchier.
Also a wolf would want their packmate to get an extra trait, since they'd know their packmate wouldn't be hunted, or at least be more confident if there are multiple packs.
Firstly a game this size is bound to have multiple packs; three packs in fact are quite likely. Especially given that sms wants a back to the roots game you can be certain that there is multiple packs.
We started 40 man strong. If there are two packs johho's golden rule says there will be 13---perhaps 14 baddies. If there is three packs johho's golden rule says 16 baddies. Due to sms wanting a conventional game there is pretty much no chance of 4 packs or more.

Given the hard cap on PMs which mean that at most 6 people, i.e. GM and 5 baddies, can be part of a PM it is highly unlikely a pack has over 5 starting baddies. And due to problems with attachment when there already are 5 baddies in a pack (dead or alive, you still need to start a new PM and copy over content as needed) I would say 4 starting baddies a pack is more likely---though 5 a pack is pretty much needed if this is a two pack game.

If it is a two pack game there there probably was 5 baddies a pack. That would leave 3 or 4 unattached baddies which seems a reasonable number. If it was 4 baddies a pack that would mean 5 or 6 unattached baddies at start which is too much in my opinion, since it means that if one of the packs gets disproportionately hit early the baddies can block up and reach parity very fast. For the same reason I would assume only 1 cultist a pack no matter whether it's a pack of 4 or a pack of 5.

If we have 3 packs then three packs of 4, with 1 cultist in each, and 4 unattached baddies seems reasonable.



Also you need to remember that the sham vote winner is a likely scan; so a baddie wouldn't really want a mate to take it, since it brings needless attention for a minor trait.
 

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What was the case on k59? The vote switch?
He stated that he found the case on me really poor and that I shouldn't hang. Then very shortly afterwards he switched to me to make a TIE between Rovs and I thereby blatantly going against what he just had stated. And despite that being pointed out and it being pointed out that he could just as well TIE Spock and Rovs instead of Rovs and I he stayed put and kept the TIE. Only when he had been called out by several people and people had started to move to Rovs thereby making it clear the TIE wouldn't hold did k-59 switch to Rovs.
 

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And the split is back... And I see I got a couple of more votes, but ese your vote count is wrong . I should have 4 votes now...
I slept on my Jeray idea and will need to re-read this...