It's not the vote itself, it's that he jumped ship so quickly and his reasoning behind it was poor. I feel he's trying to hard to blend in, who cares if it's "an MC approved candidate"?
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I didn't necessarily say your assessment was wrong...
It sounded awfully like your accusatory voice. That's what I get for trying to interpret tone through a computer screen.
I am fairly skeptical of the accusation against JCan; ironically, it appears to be people jumping onto the first suspicious thing they see.
As for aedan's statements against me-
I also knew that you would make a concerted effort to counter it, because that is a thing that you predictably do. So that makes it far less likely that I would choose to throw out suspicion onto you.
There is the possibility that I knew this and was going to use me mentioning you as a defense if it was revealed that I was attempting to deflect attention from packmates. But mentioning you probably brought me more attention that simply deflecting attention from packmates in the first place, without mentioning you, would have done! So it was a net negative if it was part of a ploy to deflect attention from packmates. The explanation that makes more sense is that I suspected you and misremembered what your case was.
This is such a weird post, and I feel like it's an attempt to lend legitimacy to the Jerman case that just isn't there. Npster keeps doing things like this - like talking about how Spock was outed - that could be dismissed as jokes but which are also slightly misleading.
Unvote Yakman, Vote npster
As for aedan's statements against me-
I challenge the assumption that being defensive is a wolfish trait. It could easily be confounded- maybe people typically become defensive whenever accused, but wolves are accused most often. If I hadn't challenged this, then people would have said that I had never responded to accusations against me, and I would've had to go back and find them later.
The argument here was that, if I was trying to deflect suspicion from packmates by representing the case incorrectly, it made little sense to state that your case in particular was flawed. The most effective way - or at least what I see as the most effective way - would have been to simply ask voters to explain why, and continually state that there didn't seem to be any cohesive case. Instead, I made disprovable statements of fact about the case.
I also knew that you would make a concerted effort to counter it, because that is a thing that you predictably do. So that makes it far less likely that I would choose to throw out suspicion onto you.
There is the possibility that I knew this and was going to use me mentioning you as a defense if it was revealed that I was attempting to deflect attention from packmates. But mentioning you probably brought me more attention that simply deflecting attention from packmates in the first place, without mentioning you, would have done! So it was a net negative if it was part of a ploy to deflect attention from packmates. The explanation that makes more sense is that I suspected you and misremembered what your case was.
How would you know that they were talking to each other? Do you have PMs with Wagon to evince it?
As of yet, none of these players are dead, so how would you know if they were all baddies?
This is such a weird post, and I feel like it's an attempt to lend legitimacy to the Jerman case that just isn't there. Npster keeps doing things like this - like talking about how Spock was outed - that could be dismissed as jokes but which are also slightly misleading.
Unvote Yakman, Vote npster
So kaiser gets a little bit of attention, and Audren, JM, and kaiser are very quick to get jumpy.
Noted.
Noted.
Because Tornadoli is awesome. He had his shitty and wrong reads, now only the wolves are left in his list.
You ignoring my question about your avatar is noted.
Well, from an unbiased perspective, I feel like you can agree this 'MC-pushed' candidate is backed only by a weak to nonexistent case (aura). Which is very bizarre, by the way, since much more is expected from Madchemist as a Werewolf player.
I usually find that players who say these kinds of things get disabused of their wolf-finding skills rather quickly.
Ask him about penumbras sometime.
It is intriguing indeed.
Now, it's consolidation time. Since no one (not even npstr) seems to be interested in lynching Spockyt anymore, I'll move on to a candidate who has attracted a decent amount of attention before, only to have it melt away. Now he is receiving attention again, and immediately several players come out of the woodwork to defend him. Strange indeed.
Unvote Spockyt
Vote Kaisersohaib
What repercussions?? Why move off him to move back on if needed... Utter Rubbish
That's patently false. I beg of you to find one post where someone defends Kaisersohaib. If you can't see that my vote on JCan has nothing to do with Kaiser's wolfishness then I don't know what to tell you.
Edit: LK that silence is deafening.
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I'm not being defended, JCan is being attacked, there's a big difference.
EDIT: Emu'd.
The repercussions that Audren says I'll be subjected to, whatever they may be.
Wow, he sure managed to interact with a lot of people!
I know I tend to interact as little as possible with my packmates in the thread when I'm a wolf. That might just be me but for completeness here are the ones he never interacted with according to madchemist:
4. Capibara
10. De Chatillon
12. madchemist
14. EUROO7
32. DragonofAtlantis
34. Audren
25. tonkatoy5 subbed by npstr 2.0
26. jcucc subbed by Dr.Livingstone
38. Duke Dan "the Man" subbed by Jacksonian Missionary 2.0
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JCan's getting pushback for his lazy reasoning, not because anybody cares about sohaib. The fact that JCan says he could've picked any of the MC candidates only goes to show that he's just looking for the easy cases, without putting his own input in, while still voicing support for killing EURO without having to get implicated with a vote.
What are you talking about?
Audren's point was that I moved off Euro because I didn't want to be associated with his lynching, and thus the repercussions/blame/whatever for said lynching.
Intriguing. The EURO case seems odd, however I'm sort of willing to shove it into the rival corner. chemist makes a decent argument on kaiser, however JCan latches onto it like a thirsty man in the desert. If the reasoning of the chemist is to be believed, then Cliges could make for a decent lynch. I think that Cliges deserves more pressure.
On the nonsense case side, might the Wombat principle be active?
VOTE CLIGES
On the nonsense case side, might the Wombat principle be active?
VOTE CLIGES
Also regarding mc's list. I think SPLIT and Nautilu know eachother IRL, at least they always seem polite to eachother. Up to the point where I once thought Nautilu was SPLIT's sockpuppet and the only reason Nautilu was so quiet was that we would otherwise discover they talked exactly the same... Yeah, werewolf paranoia on a whole other level.