Werewolf CCXII: Fur

[Audren]

Corman almost certainly is a goodie - early outings like that are something new goodie players are prone to do. Enkhuush I think is slightly more likely to be a goodie than otherwise from that revelation, but your point is well taken.

Ah, I had forgotten about the early outing piece of Corman. Fair point.

 

[Nautilu]

Wagonlitz was a goodie and the spokesperson of the JL. Was it really necessary to spill these particular beans in the public thread?

Yes.

JermanTK voted for a confirmed goodie.
If he was in the true JL why would he lynch his own spokesman?

I suspect that one of them is a sorc and one is the apprentice. Jerray2000 became active a few days ago

I suspect he was claimed at that point.

 

[jacob-Lundgren]

Well. Euro is highly probable to be scanned and highly probable to be a rival trying to sink a rival and not as likely a generic baddie. Though possible. Anything else?

 

[madchemist]

Corman is alive and outed a wolf (Canadian). Almost certain goodie.

Nah he lookin good, outed a yellow.

Yes, with the caveat that we've seen multiple dead wolves with single-use scans.

I understand you, honestly. But it's an unspoken rule not to kill Wagonlitz for metagaming reasons, no matter how annoying he might get. We all feel sorry for him, you should at least pretend to do so.

If they're rivals, it's not metagaming. I would argue it's bad play if he's a villager and they're rivals, but not metagaming.

Would anyone have a problem if I hide my activity? I was planning to wait to next game because I was sick of meta cases, but now I'm starting to get really pissed by them.

Activity hidden should be the default for WW players.

Please shut up,


You and jeray2000 continue to trade messages and act like you are part of a single entity.

I have been in touch with Wagonlitz and he acknowledged that he did not know any of you.

jeray2000 is talking to you right now.

Stop it. Both of you are baddies hiding something.

Thank you

I'm trying to figure out how you could possibly know that they're talking to each other. You can see that a certain player is engaged in conversation, but not with whom.

He is.

You, aedan777 and jeray2000 are one pack. I have been in touch with Wagonlitz about the JL and he said he did not know you.

I also have serious doubts that Wagon would hand out information about the JL to you.

Eh, Euro made a fancy play that I can respect. It's Euro so I won't be clearing him for it, but neither is he more a wolf than anyone else. If anything that play could have had saved Canadian the yellow, and I'm not looking for yellows right now. Let the other pack sort that out I say. Same goes for Spockt the confirmed Yellow. I will blame potato village if Spock is actually a Cultist and gets to win the game with another pack than the yellows cause we didn't lynch him when we had the chance.

Agreed. With three yellow wolves down we should definitely be more concerned with reds; eliminating all the yellow wolves too soon would not be a good thing at all.

As far as Euro being Wagons rival, I doubt this. Euro is clever enough to know Wagon will 99% bite the bullet before game end. Having a spokesman as a rival would be a bonus I'd have thought.

But like I say, it was a waste for his pack to try and hunt Wagon without knowing what night the GA will protect him. M so simple logic, out Wagon as a Wolf hunt the GA. So simple and you all jumped on board the groovy train. Shocking.

This is actually a legit argument against EURO, with more thought to it than "he made a fake outing so we should kill him".

That said, if they aren't rivals, someone else should come forward as Wagon's rival.

One thing I don't understand is why Wagon didn't say anything about EURO being his rival in order to make a defense. He was only saying that EURO was lying or he was a patsy, but not a word about the rival thing what could be some sort of logical explanation.


If the rivals thing works the same way that me and k-59, we both knew that we were rivals.

I was going to ask about that. Good to know.

Corman almost certainly is a goodie - early outings like that are something new goodie players are prone to do. Enkhuush I think is slightly more likely to be a goodie than otherwise from that revelation, but your point is well taken.

More or less my thoughts on this too. I'd think a pack would have encouraged Corman to be a bit more circumspect about how he conducted his outing.

 

[npstr]

Euro voters at this point are either a) potatoes or b) baddies. Pick your poison.

 

[madchemist]

Really not sure what to think of EURO. Still more annoyed than convinced of his allegiance in either direction, and even if I was convinced he is a baddie he's still got plenty of votes. I'm going back through SPLIT's stuff to see if I can read anything there.

 

[npstr]

This is the list with 100% baddies on it:

Are you coming around to my list (Spocky, Steed, Jerman, Kaisersohaib)?

Vote JermanTK

 

[npstr]

Really not sure what to think of EURO. Still more annoyed than convinced of his allegiance in either direction, and even if I was convinced he is a baddie he's still got plenty of votes. I'm going back through SPLIT's stuff to see if I can read anything there.

Yeah, I'm not clearing him at all. But lynching him is a waste. Unless someone else comes forth and claims he was Wagons Rival this is a villager where wolves are parking easy votes and potatoes are being potatoes.

 

[madchemist]

OK, so let's play "Read THE_SPLIT" for a couple moments:

Actually, to heck with that. Any read of his stuff is still too disjointed for me to process right now and I don't want to multiquote again. I'll just direct you to the page of the thread where my read comes from and if you want to argue with it, you'd better look it up yourselves.

Negative/semi-hostile interactions with still-living players:
Corman (39)
Yakman (42)
al-Aziz (44)
Health (49-50, 83)
johho (57)
jeray (58, 60)
jerman (64, 89)
jacob-lundgren (66)
Spockyt (66)
aedan (80)
johho (80)
DutchGuy (80)
Yakman (81)
ramius (81)
deathbywombat (81)
JCan (82)

Non-hostile interactions with living players
Steed? (40) [Not so sure on this one, but might be trying to get Torn less focused on Steed; also votes Torn over Steed on 50]
Cliges (44, 59, 61)
kaisersohaib (45)
LatinKaiser (45)
Nautilu (71)
enkhuush (81)
Hax (83)

 

[madchemist]

The above reminds me that I haven't started by usual once-per-game attack on Cliges. But there's a bunch of names up on the non-hostile list that could use some pressure.

Also really not fond of npstr's Jerman vote. Jerman looks like a very unlikely SPLITmate based on how they interacted, and Jerman's behavior is not his baddie behavior at all.

Vote Kaisersohaib

for now, mostly because I've already voiced my suspicion on him already.

 

[JCan]

Admittedly, I am mostly in favour of lynching Euro today, but I'm going to hope the scanners get to work on him sharpish, and we can learn of his true colours that way.

Going after a red seems sensible right now, so I'm happy to apply some pressure to Kaisersohaib too.

Unvote Euro
Vote Kaisersohaib

 

[esemesas]

Votecount, 4 hours to deadline

EUROO - 7 - Jerman, jeray, Hax, Jacksonian, DutchGuy, Steed, Nautilu

Kaisersohaib - 2 - madchemist, JCan

Jerman - 1 - npstr
Corman - 1 - Yakman
jacob-Lundgren - 1 - De Chatillon
Yakman - 1 - al-Aziz
Nautilu - 1 - Spockyt
DutchGuy - 1 - aedan
al-Aziz - 1 - Audren
Spockyt - 1 - LatinKaiser

Not voted - 13 - @Health @Capibara @ramius3443 @EUROO7 @Kaisersohaib @johho888 @Cliges @Dr.Livingstone @deathbywombat @enkhuush @DragonOfAtlantis @Corman50 @jacob-Lundgren

 

[Steed]

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Rovsea the Spiritually Attuned Werewolf of the Full Moon pack lynched on Day 1
F72Voyager as Chris the Werewolf with priestly powers of the Full Moon pack lynched on Day 4
Canadian_95_RTS as Big Joe Mufferaw the Werewolf with used seerish powers of the Full Moon pack lynched Day 5

THE_SPLIT the Lover Cultist of the Bloody Fang pack lynched Day 3​

Just pondering over starting set-up.​

2 packs,, 4 x Wolves per Pack... 2 Cultist.. = 12 players..
1 Sorc,, 2 Unattached Cultist = 15 Players Baddie side / 25 Goodie side??

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[Jacksonian Missionary]

Admittedly, I am mostly in favour of lynching Euro today, but I'm going to hope the scanners get to work on him sharpish, and we can learn of his true colours that way.

Going after a red seems sensible right now, so I'm happy to apply some pressure to Kaisersohaib too.

Unvote Euro
Vote Kaisersohaib

Oh look, another one of those "let's latch on the first decent case so I don't have to do anything" type vote.

Unvote Euro
Vote JCan

 

[Kaisersohaib]

Going after a red seems sensible right now, so I'm happy to apply some pressure to Kaisersohaib too.

Unvote Euro
Vote Kaisersohaib

It's great that you're trying to pressure me, I was dying of boredom.

Now that I am reacting to your vote, what is it that bothers you to the point you're voting me? Same goes to @madchemist, even though we've already talked about his voting based off 'auras'.

 

[Audren]

Admittedly, I am mostly in favour of lynching Euro today, but I'm going to hope the scanners get to work on him sharpish, and we can learn of his true colours that way.

Going after a red seems sensible right now, so I'm happy to apply some pressure to Kaisersohaib too.

Unvote Euro
Vote Kaisersohaib

In other words: "Gee, people are gonna call me out for voting EURO, so I'm gonna jump onto the nearest other case to avoid blame when EURO dies"

UNVOTE AL-AZIZ
VOTE JCAN

 

[Audren]

Oh look, another one of those "let's latch on the first decent case so I don't have to do anything" type vote.

Unvote Euro
Vote JCan

eyyyy, great minds think alike!

 

[JCan]

And here come the lurkers!

 

[Audren]

And here come the lurkers!

Solid defense.

 

[Kaisersohaib]

And here come the lurkers!

???? You've been confronted 3 times about your post and this is the only thing you say? Better start typing up that defense buddy.