Werewolf CCX: Trouble in Valhalla

[Wagonlitz]

My logic was as follows:

If Day 1, then all players are equally likely baddies, assuming no one slips up somehow.

Then a non-baddie reason is needed. Not helping is the best reason.


All players are more likely villagers than wolves.

Lynching any goodies, including inactive goodies, is bad.

The benefit of seeing peoples reactions to the running up and aftermath of lynching an inactive makes up for the lynching of a likely goodie.

The additional benefits of seeing the reactions to a TIE are minimal, therefore TIEs should be avoided.

Players may pick up their pace of posting as time goes on, so further reason to avoid TIES.

Therefore lynching 1 inactive Day 1 is best.



I may be misunderstanding what CAWZ means, but what I just posted is my argument for why k-59 was the best target Day 1 and why I broke the tie. I had assumed Tornadoli was the least active player, that's why I voted Torn before switching to k-59.

This frankly smells of baddie. The village never benefits from only lynching 1 zombie under CAWZ, since then the CAWZ crusaders will yell CAWZ the next day too---as indeed happened this game.

 

[Team Wombat]

Current nonvoters: @EUROO7, @Duke Dan "the Man" @F72Voyager @Capibara @De Chatillôn

 

[Jehova]

Reading this guys ISO.

esemesas ISO: 17 posts, no strong interactions, opinions kinda all over the place, especially as he is only outputting wolfreads. Casts shade on these living players: Gen Marshall, Euro, Capibara, jeray
Either a goodie trying to push different people for reactions, or a baddie looking for something that sticks. Lack of posting volume looks more like the latter as he isn't really creating any pressure. Interactions with Gen Marshall are never w/w.



Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Hebrews 13:8

 

[Jehova]

Jeray is fine for lynch today.
Wagon is not.


I know I had a hunch on Health some days ago, so I'll vote there.

Vote Health

Also open to a lunch of esemesas as of right now.

Still sorting my thoughts about the past days, because yesterday seeing the outing I slanked with analysis and didnt properly catch up.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Also open to a lunch of esemesas as of right now.

Lunch? Crovax?

 

[Rovsea]

Lunch? Crovax?

You are an idiot.

 

[Rovsea]

In fact that's so stupid I want to vote you now.

 

[Jehova]

Lunch? Crovax?

You seem to be asking a lot of abbreviation and mafia slang related questions. Lunch is a fancy way to talk about the lynch. Here is a list of other common and less common ones:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u2qvcDO2wZClzCxMttOZviJcsXNjPDh9sxj-ENHhrv8/edit#gid=0


Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
Matthew 28:19-20

 

[Rovsea]

You seem to be asking a lot of abbreviation and mafia slang related questions. Lunch is a fancy way to talk about the lynch. Here is a list of other common and less common ones:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u2qvcDO2wZClzCxMttOZviJcsXNjPDh9sxj-ENHhrv8/edit#gid=0


Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
Matthew 28:19-20

I thought you typoed lunch, but even though you didn't Wagon is still being an idiot.

 

[F72Voyager]

Ok, I still don't feel like Wagon's 100%. His sniping/counter-sniping yesterday smacked of "Welp, fellows have been outed. Better score some goodie points for a rainy day."

I will not be fooled, sir!


Vote Wagonlitz.

 

[Rovsea]

Lunch? Crovax?

Yeah, you know what, I actually think this is wolf Wagon trying to make something out of nothing.

Unvote Jeray, Vote Wagonlitz

 

[Wagonlitz]

You seem to be asking a lot of abbreviation and mafia slang related questions. Lunch is a fancy way to talk about the lynch. Here is a list of other common and less common ones:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u2qvcDO2wZClzCxMttOZviJcsXNjPDh9sxj-ENHhrv8/edit#gid=0


Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
Matthew 28:19-20

Actually Crovax is one of our terms; look it up in the FAQ or see where I posted it earlier in this thread. And the lunch question was whether it was a crovax.

Ok, I still don't feel like Wagon's 100%. His sniping/counter-sniping yesterday smacked of "Welp, fellows have been outed. Better score some goodie points for a rainy day."

I will not be fooled, sir!


Vote Wagonlitz.

How on Earth did it seem like that? I could easily have just sat back doing nothing and claim I had gone to bed. When you have two baddies outed it is best for the village if the TIE fails, since that possibly can waste a day---and at least allows the baddies to use any nightly actions they might have.

 

[Team Wombat]

Votecount (about .5 hrs before deadline):​

Wagonlitz: 4
JCan (1044)
jeray2000 (1068)
F72 Voyager (1091)
Rovsea (1051 jeray2000 -> 1092)

Health: 2
Wagonlitz (1018)
Jehova (1084)

jeray2000: 1
Borath the Undulator (1038)

EUROO7: 1
esemesas (1037 -> 1055)

Duke Dan "the Man": 1
Health (1059)

Jehova: 1
Gen Marshall (1062)

Not Voted: @EUROO7, @Duke Dan "the Man" , @Capibara, @De Chatillôn

 

[jeray2000]

This frankly smells of baddie. The village never benefits from only lynching 1 zombie under CAWZ, since then the CAWZ crusaders will yell CAWZ the next day too---as indeed happened this game.

I'm saying inactive is better than random. Day 1 and even Day 2 cases are rarely good, it takes some time to get enough information to get good cases. And insisting everyone be active makes it so there is enough information floating around for good cases to eventually be made.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

When you have two baddies outed it is best for the village if the TIE fails, since that possibly can waste a day---and at least allows the baddies to use any nightly actions they might have.

I smell crovax.

 

[Wagonlitz]

I'm saying inactive is better than random. Day 1 and even Day 2 cases are rarely good, it takes some time to get enough information to get good cases. And insisting everyone be active makes it so there is enough information floating around for good cases to eventually be made.

If you just religiously go for zombies you won't really accumulate information. You often need bad cases to start being able to make good ones.

I smell crovax.

How so?

 

[jeray2000]

How on Earth did it seem like that? I could easily have just sat back doing nothing and claim I had gone to bed. When you have two baddies outed it is best for the village if the TIE fails, since that possibly can waste a day---and at least allows the baddies to use any nightly actions they might have.

You could have faked your sniping attempt and purposely goofed, since it isn't unlikely that aedan would successfully counter your countersnipe.

 

[Wagonlitz]

You could have faked your sniping attempt and purposely goofed, since it isn't unlikely that aedan would successfully counter your countersnipe.

Or again I could have just claimed I had gone to bed---or actually have gone to bed. Deadline is very late in the night.

 

[jeray2000]

If you just religiously go for zombies you won't really accumulate information. You often need bad cases to start being able to make good ones.

I'm not religiously going for zombies though, I'm going for zombies when they are no good cases. Day 3 I would have voted for you if there wasn't already a wagon on you.

 

[Team Wombat]

@De Chatillôn @EUROO7, @Capibara, @Duke Dan "the Man" get in here and vote.