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The way they have been posting, it at least seems to me that Borath and Jehova arn't entirely new to WW (maybe played a similar game like Mafia? Or perhaps puppets/alts?). I find it extremely hard to believe they found their way here, whilst posting no where else, and immediately joined and basically understood the rules. Not even wolfy, but something seems extremely sketchy about them.
 

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I don't find being quiet on Day 1 the best reason to lynch someone, but then again, most of the reasons for lynching someone on Day 1 are similarly weak cases. And even if Lemeard would be proud, a 4-way TIE isn't the best course of action.

I agree with others about the new players. Something is just off.
 

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The way they have been posting, it at least seems to me that Borath and Jehova arn't entirely new to WW (maybe played a similar game like Mafia? Or perhaps puppets/alts?). I find it extremely hard to believe they found their way here, whilst posting no where else, and immediately joined and basically understood the rules. Not even wolfy, but something seems extremely sketchy about them.
One of them talked about scum which would indicate familiarity with mafia. And due to that world championship we got invited to there might now be knowledge about our little corner on the wide web.
 

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Wait what is this about world championship?
 

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The way they have been posting, it at least seems to me that Borath and Jehova arn't entirely new to WW (maybe played a similar game like Mafia? Or perhaps puppets/alts?). I find it extremely hard to believe they found their way here, whilst posting no where else, and immediately joined and basically understood the rules. Not even wolfy, but something seems extremely sketchy about them.

They're wombat's sockpuppets, and this is one of those "the GM can lose" games :D

On a more serious note, I don't endorse the lynching of new players, no matter how sketchy. Inactivity remains my sole "case".

Unvote Spockyt
Vote k59
 

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Wait what is this about world championship?

There was a guy some months ago who joined the forum to invite one of our players to participate on the world championship. He even was invited to participate in on of our games. He didn't join, though.

I don't know if in the end someone from here went to participate.
 

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The accusation of a "wolfy pop in" or "wolfy lurking" is preposterous and you know it: Ive been active in this thread consistently, posting before you ever did, as has Wagonlitz (even if his post were insufferable instances of Danish humor which do not deserve the moniker). No idea about Spockyt, havent been paying attention. The only posts you have made other than unsubstantiated accusations is pointless bible dribble (what is a Christian doing in Vahalla has not yet been answered!!). As it stands, it seems several people are being lynched for little to no reason.

The only semi serious case that has been made, against me, seems to involve a list of suspects that resembles Mcarthy's hit list: Borath either pulled them out of his arse, since there is no possible way he could no with difinitive certainty the allignments of 9-10 players without cheating, or is playing dirty.

Furthermore, the two most active posters in this thread, and leading the current witch hunts, are two posters who have NEVER posted outside of this very WW thread. Who the hell are they has not been answered to anyone's satisfaction in this thread.


I have no idea what either of you are up to, who you guys are, or what your allignments are. But you are clearly not up to any good.

VOTE JEHOVA

That is a nice revenge vote mate.

FYI, a wolfy pop in is someone who lurks, and the moment he is mentioned or gets heat, he magically appears and posts in the thread.

#373 Borath calls a bunch of players wolves, one of them you. It's the first time you are being mentioned in the discussion and also you haven't posted yet.
2 mins later this comes from you:
Not the most auspsious start to WW....

Your inability to understand Boraths reads just fuels into it. Borath is most likely not cheating, he is posting these lists to see people react to them. These reactions can be judged, villagery, or wolfy. It is a classic wolftell that someone lurks and coincidently comes into the thread the moment he is mentioned.

What bugs me the most about you is that while having provided nothing for the game related discussion you find enough time to write several posts and paragraphs about me being weird or whatever. You even vote me for it.
Guess what, I have played this game. Under very different rules, but I'm not new to Werewolf/Mafia. I got a link and I liked the theme so I joined. Point is, it doesn't matter for the game at all who I am (or Borath who seems to be another new one). You focusing on that does not change my opinion about you in the slightest. You are firmly on my baddielist.



Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.
Romans 6:13
 

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Non WW: Can you honestly blame me for being suspious about you, in a general sense? You have no posts, you just randomly showed up, you dont seem to own any paradox games. You haven't said who you were. This is related to the game because there are meta issues that creep in from time to time. I thank you though for now explaining how you got here: that does clear up some questions. Though Im still honestly curious as to how you got the link.

WW: Why thank you :)
The inasupsious start was a referal to an important charecter being killed in the night. It had literally nothing to do with borath. The fact it came two posts after it was.... unfortunate. Though deleting the post, or substantially editing it, wouldn't have exactly helped the perception eh? If you are curious, you can check my post activity to see what i was doing on the forums prior to the post being made. Youl notice I was busy typing out responses in several OT threads. Pardon me if I was not intently reading anything other then the moderator message: HAZBOT HAS DIED

Yes, Borath called me out: and 5 other players. It is literally impossible that he knows for sure one way or another, bar cheating, so why should I take it seriously?

Thanks for clarifying what you mean by wolfy pop in: though I dispute why it is in any way suspious to post something when your name is mentioned. Do you routinely ignore people calling your name, prefering to wait several hours before responding? Do you often ignore people accusing you of bloody murder, preferring to wait until said accuser has gone away to stroll in?


Most Important Quesiton of them all: WHY IS A CHRISTIAN GOD IN VAHALLA????
 

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Wait what is this about world championship?
Somebody joined the fora years ago and invited us. Aedan and kiwi went and it was a disaster with aedan being autolynched for breaking the rules. (He also had a role which didn't feature in the role list.) That man has then kept inviting us every year since; Capibara saw the latest one, but it has run for several years.
 

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The way they have been posting, it at least seems to me that Borath and Jehova arn't entirely new to WW (maybe played a similar game like Mafia? Or perhaps puppets/alts?). I find it extremely hard to believe they found their way here, whilst posting no where else, and immediately joined and basically understood the rules. Not even wolfy, but something seems extremely sketchy about them.
Mafia is essentially werewolf with different names. Paradox Werewolf is different from other werewolf and mafia games, but werewolf and mafia are basically equivalent, not really two different games.
 

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Somebody joined the fora years ago and invited us. Aedan and kiwi went and it was a disaster with aedan being autolynched for breaking the rules. (He also had a role which didn't feature in the role list.) That man has then kept inviting us every year since; Capibara saw the latest one, but it has run for several years.

Interesting. I had no idea it had been going on for years.
 

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Somebody joined the fora years ago and invited us. Aedan and kiwi went and it was a disaster with aedan being autolynched for breaking the rules. (He also had a role which didn't feature in the role list.) That man has then kept inviting us every year since; Capibara saw the latest one, but it has run for several years.
Huh, I didn't know that. I thought WW/Mafia was just a localized forum game, never knew there was any level above that
 

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There was a guy some months ago who joined the forum to invite one of our players to participate on the world championship. He even was invited to participate in on of our games. He didn't join, though.

I don't know if in the end someone from here went to participate.
Madchemist ended up going, and I can assure you that he didn't join this game because he didn't have time (I asked him about it, and at the time that he was organizing things he took multiple hours out of his day just to stay in contact with all the communities and coordinate who from each one would play in the championship).

Also, I'm just going to assume that these are people who heard about Werewolf from npstr over at MU.
 

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Somebody joined the fora years ago and invited us. Aedan and kiwi went and it was a disaster with aedan being autolynched for breaking the rules. (He also had a role which didn't feature in the role list.) That man has then kept inviting us every year since; Capibara saw the latest one, but it has run for several years.
It's only really run for three years, and I believe that the third one was overall much better put together than the earlier attempts. It was better coordinated, and I took a look at some of teh games, they had a pretty high activity level and standard of play.
 

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Ramius of all people going ballistic on the new players strikes me as disingenuous. He's played what, a handful of games? And he's acting like other new players who are active and semi-aware of the way things are done are part of some conspiracy? Or whatever he seems to be insinuating. Smells funny to me.
 

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Yep, this is my second game :). Third if you count a round of Mafia on the Nationstates forums.... 3 years ago? maybe two.

And of course im going ballistic: I don't want to be lynched on day 1! I at least want to beat my previous record....
 

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Huh, I didn't know that. I thought WW/Mafia was just a localized forum game, never knew there was any level above that
There's Mafia Scum, which unless I am mistaken has by far the most participants of any service hosting mafia/werewolf games. Then there are several hundred (probably over 1,000, although not all have very high activity levels) forum sites which each have their own "local" games. The Mafia Championship was an attempt to gather as many players from multiple communities in one spot as possible to create connections between communities, establish higher level of play, and of course for bragging rights.
 

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There was a guy some months ago who joined the forum to invite one of our players to participate on the world championship. He even was invited to participate in on of our games. He didn't join, though.

I don't know if in the end someone from here went to participate.
As well, for those that missed it (although I certainly advertised it in the general planning thread) they invited us to a less formal "hydra" tournament recently. We have four people attending that (more people are actually playing in the hydra than did in the championship).