Werewolf CCIX: Nerd Night

[Tornadoli]

So either you're specifically ignoring my warning earlier, or you're a wolf. Lynch a wolf today means we lose, most likely. A wolf of each pack and the sorcerer is the most likely set up now. There are 6 players in total left. If we lynch a wolf, and the last wolf hunts a villager, parity is reached. We have to lynch the sorcerer today, and that is Audren.

By my count, there are 7 players left, so it's impossible for any pack to win tomorrow, even if your scenario is true. Interesting that you try to change facts in the hope that no one will notice.

Out of curiosity, is the sorc being on the council a "thing"? Does that always happen? Genuine question, but you need to be pretty certain if you are building a case on him.

And why should I trust you? I'm sitting on a sure wolf here, and I'm just supposed to trust you? What if you are a wolf pushing for parity?

 

[De Chatillôn]

Mmmmm I have some doubts here between Audren and Spockyt. A sure wolf seems a better option..

Vote Spockyt

 

[Audren]

Yeah, there's seven players left, not six. We shouldn't be in fear of a win tomorrow. And if aedan's right in his setup suspicions, we'll only have one wolf left after this. If we get them, the sorc won't even matter.

VOTE SPOCKYT

 

[aedan777]

By my count, there are 7 players left, so it's impossible for any pack to win tomorrow, even if your scenario is true. Interesting that you try to change facts in the hope that no one will notice.

Out of curiosity, is the sorc being on the council a "thing"? Does that always happen? Genuine question, but you need to be pretty certain if you are building a case on him.

And why should I trust you? I'm sitting on a sure wolf here, and I'm just supposed to trust you? What if you are a wolf pushing for parity?

A wolf pushing for parity wouldn't be trying to lynch a sorcerer, they'd be going for a wolf. Because we know there are two packs, and neither can win while the other survives. Both packs want the sorcerer to live, since that's a help towards parity. Funnily enough, a wolf would be doing what you're doing here, trying to out a wolf from the other pack. How'd you figure out Spockyt was a wolf anyways?

The bit about the number of players stems from looking at the final votecount from yesterday where is says there were 8 votes on Madchemist and 0 non-voters. I took off two from the lynch and hunt, and worried about parity. Turns out it just miscounted, and he had 9 votes yesterday. Still worth worrying about parity, if the last wolf or sorcerer has a hunter shot, they could kill two goodies and reach parity. Lynching Audren the sorcerer is still the best option.

 

[Ironhide G1]

Votecount roughly 2.5 hours to deadline

Spokyt: 4

Tornadoli(416)
F72Voyager(418)
De Chatillôn (Togge) (422)
Audren (423)

Audren: 1

adean777(405)

F72Voyager: 1

Spokyt(407)

Tornadoli: 1

Cliges(413)

Not Voted:

 

[aedan777]

Alright, this clearly isn't working.

Audren is the Sorcerer (Legitimate outing)
Tornadoli is a wolf (Also a legitimate outing)

Spockyt's also a likely wolf from the other pack, that Tornadoli's trying to sell out to reach parity somehow. If this is the case, then sure, we could just lynch Spockyt, but if someone I know to be a wolf is in favour of a lynch, then I'm not going to just assume it'd be in our mutual interest. Tornadoli or Audren could have a hunter shot lined up to reach parity after tonight.

I'm the seer with priestly powers. I used a seer scan plus my priestly scan on Audren, and have seer scanned Deathbywombat, Ironhead, Madchemist, and Tornadoli. All the others are dead, so there's no one I could trust to do this outing and help me get Audren lynched today.

We are lynching Audren. All villagers switch your votes.

 

[Audren]

Alright, this clearly isn't working.

Audren is the Sorcerer (Legitimate outing)
Tornadoli is a wolf (Also a legitimate outing)

Spockyt's also a likely wolf from the other pack, that Tornadoli's trying to sell out to reach parity somehow. If this is the case, then sure, we could just lynch Spockyt, but if someone I know to be a wolf is in favour of a lynch, then I'm not going to just assume it'd be in our mutual interest. Tornadoli or Audren could have a hunter shot lined up to reach parity after tonight.

I'm the seer with priestly powers. I used a seer scan plus my priestly scan on Audren, and have seer scanned Deathbywombat, Ironhead, Madchemist, and Tornadoli. All the others are dead, so there's no one I could trust to do this outing and help me get Audren lynched today.

We are lynching Audren. All villagers switch your votes.

Well, ain't that wacky. I'm the Seer. Little desperate for this push, aren't you? aedan's full of shit here. I don't know what his game here is, but he's clearly trying to push for parity somehow with hunter shots or the like. Don't listen to him, y'all. We kill one of them today, kill the other tomorrow, and that'll be that.

Night 0: Duke Dan (Jock)
Night 1: Comm Rovsea (Villager)
Night 2: k-59 (Villager)
Night 3: Tornadoli (Villager)
Night 4: Spockyt (Jock)

 

[aedan777]

Well, ain't that wacky. I'm the Seer. Little desperate for this push, aren't you? aedan's full of shit here. I don't know what his game here is, but he's clearly trying to push for parity somehow with hunter shots or the like. Don't listen to him, y'all. We kill one of them today, kill the other tomorrow, and that'll be that.

Night 0: Duke Dan (Jock)
Night 1: Comm Rovsea (Villager)
Night 2: k-59 (Villager)
Night 3: Tornadoli (Villager)
Night 4: Spockyt (Jock)

Oh please, if you're going to lie and make a fake scan list, at least have the minimal sense to actually consider what you need to claim for it to be plausible. Madchemsit said he had been scanned by the seer, and he was SA, so he would've known.

Villagers with more IQ points than a one-armed man should take this as an admission of guilt from Audren.

 

[Tornadoli]

Well, ain't that wacky. I'm the Seer. Little desperate for this push, aren't you? aedan's full of shit here. I don't know what his game here is, but he's clearly trying to push for parity somehow with hunter shots or the like. Don't listen to him, y'all. We kill one of them today, kill the other tomorrow, and that'll be that.

Night 0: Duke Dan (Jock)
Night 1: Comm Rovsea (Villager)
Night 2: k-59 (Villager)
Night 3: Tornadoli (Villager)
Night 4: Spockyt (Jock)

Yup, can confirm that I got that info from audren. Doctor, please protect him today.
To be honest, I actually considered that audren might be a wolf and just used me to eliminate the other pack, but now I am convinced that he is for real.
Reasons:
a) I just can't see ironhide being stupid and making a council with 2 wolves AND a sorc, and just one goodie. 2 wolves on council, plus one villager, plus one important goodie makes much more sense to be, balance-wise.
b) From my perspective, I know 100% that aedan is a baddie because he claimed I am a wolf even though I am just a villager. I know that won't necessarily convince you.
c) I can't remember a time when audren wasn't an important goodie.

I reckon aedan is actually the sorc, he scanned audren as the seer and wants to get rid of him, he is probably in contact with spocky the wolf and doesn't know who the other wolf is. I don't really know. I'm just a villager with seerish powers, used them on madchemist as I thought he looked a bit suspicous with his tie-shenanigans a few days back. Please, please, just don't listen to aedan or we lose today.

 

[aedan777]

Vote madchemist


Visiting Antietam today, so not going to be online any more. Probably. Oh well. I was seer scanned anyway, so it was well worth it.

Where madchemist claimed to be seer scanned.

Day/Night 4

You guys quickly find out who the jock who deceived you was, and you quickly dispose of him. However, the jocks still are not dead yet. The resurrected camel has been slaughtered again.

Madchemist the spiritually attuned jock of the football pack councilmember is lynched
Rovsea the councilmember nerd is hunted

((I've been pretty busy the past hour))

Where Madchemist is confirmed to be SA.

Now vote Audren already.

 

[F72Voyager]

I... I'm convinced. My Spockyt vote was really just retaliation, anyway.

Unvote Spockyt.

Vote Audren.

 

[Tornadoli]

Where madchemist claimed to be seer scanned.

Where Madchemist is confirmed to be SA.

Now vote Audren already.

Do you even know the rules? I seerish scanned him, that would show up the same to madchemist.

You guys can't really be buying aedans crap. Seriously, how often are second outings the real outings? I have never seen a game where there was an outing, then someone else made an outing and the second outing turned out to be correct. A second outing this late in a game is always a desperate wolf pushing for victory.

 

[Audren]

Where madchemist claimed to be seer scanned.

Where Madchemist is confirmed to be SA.

Now vote Audren already.

As Torn has already said, he Seer scanned him, not me.

I... I'm convinced. My Spockyt vote was really just retaliation, anyway.

Unvote Spockyt.

Vote Audren.

What's convinced you? Aedan's fake outing? His refusal to believe that somebody else could have Seerish powers? There's nothing there but a parity push. What we need to do is kill wolves, not listen to aedan drag us on a goose chase for his own interests.

 

[Tornadoli]

I... I'm convinced. My Spockyt vote was really just retaliation, anyway.

Unvote Spockyt.

Vote Audren.

Don't. Read the posts. Dont let aedan win. Not like this, with a half-assed "outing" an hour after my real outing.

 

[Team Wombat]

*popcorn munching intensifies*

 

[aedan777]

Yup, can confirm that I got that info from audren. Doctor, please protect him today.
To be honest, I actually considered that audren might be a wolf and just used me to eliminate the other pack, but now I am convinced that he is for real.
Reasons:
a) I just can't see ironhide being stupid and making a council with 2 wolves AND a sorc, and just one goodie. 2 wolves on council, plus one villager, plus one important goodie makes much more sense to be, balance-wise.
b) From my perspective, I know 100% that aedan is a baddie because he claimed I am a wolf even though I am just a villager. I know that won't necessarily convince you.
c) I can't remember a time when audren wasn't an important goodie.

I reckon aedan is actually the sorc, he scanned audren as the seer and wants to get rid of him, he is probably in contact with spocky the wolf and doesn't know who the other wolf is. I don't really know. I'm just a villager with seerish powers, used them on madchemist as I thought he looked a bit suspicous with his tie-shenanigans a few days back. Please, please, just don't listen to aedan or we lose today.

Ok, so this is clearly an attempt to cover up audren's stupid claim, but in the event someone is mindless enough to buy this consider-

Have we seen any priestly/seerish powers so far this game? Answer: Yes. The priest had seerish powers. Has any other player had single-scanning powers? No. So is it not odd in Audren/Tornadoli's story that both A) The seer has no priestly powers as a mirror of the Priest's seerish powers and B) There is only a single villager with single-scan powers, who just so happens to catch a wolf, but never outed him, and only claims so well afterwards?

It's rather much to be believed, particularly when a far more reasonable (and true) story came first. Remember, 9/10 times the first person to come forward is telling the truth, and the counter claim is wolfish desperation. I know, I've been on the wolf side of this a number of times. This time I'm the seer, and I'm not letting Torn and Audren run over the village with whatever they're plotting.

 

[aedan777]

Do you even know the rules? I seerish scanned him, that would show up the same to madchemist.

You guys can't really be buying aedans crap. Seriously, how often are second outings the real outings? I have never seen a game where there was an outing, then someone else made an outing and the second outing turned out to be correct. A second outing this late in a game is always a desperate wolf pushing for victory.

Difference is, I'm not saying your outing is wrong, I'm saying that you and Audren are also baddies. And at a point where there are two packs, that's quite likely. I may have outed after you, but I revealed my role first, and that's where it counts for counterclaims.

 

[Tornadoli]

Aedan first purposefully misrepresented the number of players still alive to build his "case" on audren.

Then he makes a fake outing a bit after mine. Those retaliatory outings are never correct.

Then he conveniently ignores the fact that I said I seerish scanned madchemist, in the hope that no one will check.

I swear, if we lose now by lynching audren the seer then I'm probably going to take a break from werewolf for a while.

 

[aedan777]

Aedan first purposefully misrepresented the number of players still alive to build his "case" on audren.

Then he makes a fake outing a bit after mine. Those retaliatory outings are never correct.

Then he conveniently ignores the fact that I said I seerish scanned madchemist, in the hope that no one will check.

I swear, if we lose now by lynching audren the seer then I'm probably going to take a break from werewolf for a while.

Your claims make no sense with what we've seen of the set-up so far. If the village loses by following you and Audren, it'll be because the village was too full of inactives and incompetents to see that.

 

[aedan777]

And I mean really, you claim the Seer would be on the Council with two wolves? That's asking for him to get killed early in the game. The council is a deathtrap for its players, so why on earth would a seer be on it? That's all kinds of absurd.