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So last night it was the baddies' turn to be incompetent!

Will they improve tonight?
Will the village take up the Mantle of Incompetence™?

I can't wait.

You sure it was only the last night? I could have sworn there was something about N0 and N1 too...
 

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You sure it was only the last night? I could have sworn there was something about N0 and N1 too...

There is no monopoly on The Mantle of Incompetence™.
Both sides are more than capable of claiming and/or retaining it!
 

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So last night it was the baddies' turn to be incompetent!

Will they improve tonight?
Will the village take up the Mantle of Incompetence™?

I can't wait.

You sure it was only the last night? I could have sworn there was something about N0 and N1 too...

Ghost rules. Now we know it was incompetence and not a carefully crafted plan.
 

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Ghost rules.
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VOTE LEMEARD

Audren's packmate!!!
Seriosuly? Are you still keeping this up? I'm really tempted to vote you.

Oh, this is interesting. So many different cases. Hmmm. Audren seemed really defensive in that post a couple posts back. I'd like to see more of what happens. For now I'll TIE it, yet I don't think this will be my final vote if I have a chance to revisit the thread, I want to see what more plays out.

Vote Audren
Now to answer the questions. How exactly is this baddie tell? My thought process behind the post was that if I had a chance I would revisit the thread and see what has happened, but I turned out to be too busy at the time to do so. So the fact that I said that I possibly would change my vote is baddie tell? As for the TIE, I thought TIEing Audren would give us more information of who was the person lying and who was telling the truth. I would like to know more of your reasoning besides miisinterpreting my post.
 

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Now to answer the questions. How exactly is this baddie tell? My thought process behind the post was that if I had a chance I would revisit the thread and see what has happened, but I turned out to be too busy at the time to do so. So the fact that I said that I possibly would change my vote is baddie tell? As for the TIE, I thought TIEing Audren would give us more information of who was the person lying and who was telling the truth. I would like to know more of your reasoning besides miisinterpreting my post.

There seems to be a consensus that we should ignore those two and not try to TIE them as that is likely to kill two villagers. Whilst I'd like to get rid of this ridiculous argument, I'd also like to not be the guy responsible for killing two villagers.

Now whilst I would like to spend time trying to get the exact reasons by those trying to kill me yesterday it would most likely come off as petty and as such I'll just ask Aziz what was her exact thought process behind voting me after spending quite a bit analyzing many others except me. The case on me seems a bit shoddy, whilst TIEing randomly is unlikely to do much good, trying to make a case based on it, garnering quite a bit of votes and then ending up having two baddies in on the vote seems rather suspicious. Now I know that Aziz has since then went on another route as far as voting goes, I'd still like to know what caused this vote.
 

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Now to answer the questions. How exactly is this baddie tell? My thought process behind the post was that if I had a chance I would revisit the thread and see what has happened, but I turned out to be too busy at the time to do so. So the fact that I said that I possibly would change my vote is baddie tell?

First of all, what's that meme?

Secondly, it's because it's a proven baddie tell. Of course it's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty good. The reason for this, I think, is that baddies want to have as many backup options and excuses as possible. If they vote for an important goodie, they can always say "well, I wanted to change my vote, but I was too busy!" or something along those lines.

Goodies usually don't bother to say they will change their vote later, they just vote and change it later if they have changed their opinion.
 

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First of all, what's that meme?

Secondly, it's because it's a proven baddie tell. Of course it's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty good. The reason for this, I think, is that baddies want to have as many backup options and excuses as possible. If they vote for an important goodie, they can always say "well, I wanted to change my vote, but I was too busy!" or something along those lines.

Goodies usually don't bother to say they will change their vote later, they just vote and change it later if they have changed their opinion.

That would be LatinKaiser presenting Ghost Rules. It should be a meme from the beginning of the year if memory serves. After the Lube incident, but before me taking a break.
 

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Goodies usually don't bother to say they will change their vote later, they just vote and change it later if they have changed their opinion.
Or you vote someone in order to put on pressure/to provoke a reaction. Like with TIEs. It sort of goes out the window if you say that you're going to change it later.

Not convinced it's a baddie thing to do and not just a lapse in judgement.
 

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Since so many appear to be interested in CAWZ, let's do it properly.

Vote Gorganslayer

Six votes. Jerman avoided switching to him. Shows no signs of becoming active. Great prospect for a lynch.
 

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Since so many appear to be interested in CAWZ, let's do it properly.

Vote Gorganslayer

Six votes. Jerman avoided switching to him. Shows no signs of becoming active. Great prospect for a lynch.
Should read "six posts."
 

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@Ironhide G1 Do you still have that picture of the lubricant factory, if so then you are up.
 

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Reason why Ironhide is likely to be a baddie is b/c Chieron, known yellow, spent some time defending him. For example, when Ironhide was first run up, Chieron said this:

Woah, Ironhide ran up fast - is he even online to defend himself?

When I presented my list of cases:

Cases, ranked:

1) Togee - My case from earlier still applies. Could be part of any pack.
2) Ironhide - Jumped on Jackson case early, so unlikely red. Nothing to prevent him from being a yellow, though.
3) Audren - Pushed for Cody/Jackson tie. Yakman's case against him is inconclusive at best.
4) Yakman - likely a confused villager who thought he caught a baddie.

De Chat's not getting any traction. Would highly recommend Togee out of the 4 options presented.

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Vote Togee

I have to agree with wombat here, of the 4 runups, Togee is the best choice-- and a 4-way tie is ridiculous anyway.

vote Togee

Chieron concurred with me.
Hm.
Gorgan: CAWZ, nothing tangible. Ran up quite fast, nice fan club.
Jerman: not in the running, despite suspicious behavior yesterday
Health : blasphemed against ties, general silence?
Ironhide: did not respond to the question if he is a baddie? That's a lame cause.
Audren : what was the case again?

And here again is Chieron defending Ironhide. Could be a baddie trying to rack up goodie points by defending a villager, but could be a loyal packmate. Anyone know how loyal Chieron tends to be in game to his packmates?

One counterpoint to my theory is that Ironhide is actually bothering to defend himself a little bit this game. If he is a baddie, he's a likely yellow, and a very unlikely red.

Gorgan's also a decent candidate as well - Chieron also cast shade on that case. If Jerman was in contact with the yellows, that might explain his odd late switch onto Health as well. I would recommend a tie between Ironhide and Gorganslayer here.
 

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And here again is Chieron defending Ironhide. Could be a baddie trying to rack up goodie points by defending a villager, but could be a loyal packmate. Anyone know how loyal Chieron tends to be in game to his packmates?

One counterpoint to my theory is that Ironhide is actually bothering to defend himself a little bit this game. If he is a baddie, he's a likely yellow, and a very unlikely red.

Gorgan's also a decent candidate as well - Chieron also cast shade on that case. If Jerman was in contact with the yellows, that might explain his odd late switch onto Health as well. I would recommend a tie between Ironhide and Gorganslayer here.

For the game I played with him being both of us baddies, Chieron seems a loyal fellow so I think he's the kind of player who would defend a packmate (sorry for my betrayal that game Chieron :oops:)