Fair enough.
I think this is slightly overstating it. It's making a TIE not too close to deadline, and less than what other people did.
Do you think he is a wolf, though?
*winces
I don't think that we can rely too heavily on it and Ironhide does not appear to be a good case to me.
Why?
For some reason I get the feeling that De Chat is just pursuing easy cases and casting suspicion on others.
Indeed.
Again, De Chat appears to be casting too much suspicion, too easily, similarly to Tornadoli. Though it seems in synch with Tornadoli's playstyle, I haven't seen enough of Chat's to know his.
Then again, I'm a bit suspicious of Jerman as well.
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Could you two just stop it please?
So we've got Spock, De Chat, Cliges, and Lemeard as probable wolves. Since the others have been run up, I will
Vote De Chat
Maybe "probable" is too strong of a word. Greater likelihood of being a wolf than any random given player.You kidding right? That wasn't even close to a case, how can I be a "probable wolf" with such a weak argument? I'm not throwing suspicions against Ironhide, I'm trying to see how he responds to the acusations. And if he doesn't answer anything, then yes, I will throw suspicions against him.
Cody seems the easy lynch and people voting against him could be wolves trying to find an easy target.
Vote Marshall.
An odd turnaround.I agree with Tornadoli and with the point that Marshall made before. It's true that Cody is an easy lynch but when I think about this I see a wolf Cody shooting first night only because he can and getting away with it only because he's Cody and he shooted Caesar. Also I want to see Cody's defense.
Unvote Marshall
Vote Cody.
You begin to pursue the case, making excuses for any caveats found.True, but maybe this time his packmates thought that it was a good idea when he suggested. You know, that time Caesar wasn't playing.
You vote Sleepy, but attempt to defer any fallout to tamius.I have to say last time Tamius found a post of mine suspicious I was a wolf and he was the only one that had suspicions against me. For that I give some credit to Tamius' wolfdar. And I find sleepyhead suspicious as well so I'm going with him.
Vote Sleepy.
A quick deflection of suspicion from Spock.Here we have Swolfkyt again. The thing is that when Swolfkyt appears, usually Spockyt is a villager...
Following a case without much explanation.The hunt of nptrs and MC could come from a new player and I don't hace a better case so..
Vote Togee
I think we should vote him and see what's his answer. Problem is that probably is too late now. But tomorrow we should do it.
The problem with this is that it was close enough to deadline that he might have died, and he had stated he would ignore such inquiries, and the question and the case itself were both extremely lackluster.Well, let's see how he defends himself.
Unvote Togee
Vote Ironhide.
Again, you appear overeager to prosecute.@Ironhide G1 what's your defense? Are you a baddie?
Tornadoli accused him for being a baddie and we want to see how he answers that.
Pursuing this weak case, you repeatedly try to prosecute until....I think the same. But the fact the he doesn't answer is not a good sign either. Maybe he's just offline, but he didn't answer tornadoli before either.
you abruptly change pace at the last minute.Ufffff I don't know why but all these posts smell a lot like a wolf to me.
Unvote Ironhide IG, vote Jerman TK.
EVIL TELL.Yakman is either a baddie or an idiot. I have a high enough of him to believe the former.
I have to say, as cases go, the Yakman one is tremendously bad. I think it's extremely likely that both he and Audren are both villagers.
Although the Togee case isn't perfect, it's miles better than the one on Yakman and I called him out on a wolfish post yesterday, so it'd be disingenuous for me not to
Vote Togee
Maybe "probable" is too strong of a word. Greater likelihood of being a wolf than any random given player.
It's not just Ironhide. It's also that you seem to have been skating along without much explanation, and by following really spurious cases.
On D1, let's look back to see what you did:
An odd turnaround.
You begin to pursue the case, making excuses for any caveats found.
You vote Sleepy, but attempt to defer any fallout to tamius.
A quick deflection of suspicion from Spock.
Following a case without much explanation.
Then you begin advocating for voting Ironhide:
The problem with this is that it was close enough to deadline that he might have died, and he had stated he would ignore such inquiries, and the question and the case itself were both extremely lackluster.
Again, you appear overeager to prosecute.
Pursuing this weak case, you repeatedly try to prosecute until....
you abruptly change pace at the last minute.
And anyway, with his important vote on Jackson, Ironhide isn't actually a very likely wolf. Around half of the possibilities are eliminated completely for him, meaning some silence and a TIE made aren't a good reason to place him in danger. Your abrupt and unexplained switch, however, suggests you wanted to avoid responsibility despite trumping up the "case", and that you wanted to cast suspicion on someone else to bring into the TIE.
I think we should vote him and see what's his answer. Problem is that probably is too late now. But tomorrow we should do it.
I remain convinced that we already found a baddie, in Yakman, for all the reasons I've laid out.
Do you actually think he is a baddie? Just contacting you might make sense for an unattached baddie, but contacting 3 other players to "out" you? What would an unattached baddie gain from this?
Besides chaos?
How long are you people going to keep focusing on the Audren-Yakman mess, despite repeated explanations as to why it isn't helpful?
Health is sticking out to me. His vote on Tamius makes little sense, why single out Tamius to focus on amidst all the Togee voters? And not just single out for examination, but to vote as well. Seems rather quick for how little he's going on. He's been tie happy also, which is particularly bad regarding his calls for an Audren-Yakman tie, something likely to lynch two villagers. And he gave a minor defense to Spockyt without actually addressing the case against Spockyt.
Vote Health
I've called to solve the Aud/Yak argument in the best way that I can see and that is shutting both of them down. We still have no knowledge of whether or not they are villagersand as such I treat them like I treat any other player until proven innocent, that is a possible wolf. I do agree that both of them are unlikely to be wolves but that is not impossible. However if we let this stupid argument go on that will take more time from the village that should be spent on better things like finding more wolves.
Emphasis mine.
Unvote Ironhide
Vote Health
I do agree that both of them are unlikely to be wolves, however I do treat them as possible wolves. It would take a lot of stupid plays from both of them to get to this situation, if they were both baddies, but I cannot count that out.
My point remains; why on Earth would you want to TIE two people you consider unlikely wolves? Of course they could be wolves, but so could a JL spokesman who outed 2 wolves; should we start lynching JL spokesmen as well, then?
Yakman is a baddie, mark my words. But, despite his affinity for LOTRO (is that game still good? haven't played for ages), I like this case on Health.
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I've lost the case on Spocky, is it that Spocky is acting suspicious and as such should be lynched? I'll go over the thread to find it once more, but until then could somebody willing to push said case make a statement for it.