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Yakman is either a baddie or an idiot. I have a high enough of him to believe the former.
 

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Fair enough.

I think this is slightly overstating it. It's making a TIE not too close to deadline, and less than what other people did.

Do you think he is a wolf, though?

*winces

I don't think that we can rely too heavily on it and Ironhide does not appear to be a good case to me.

Why?


For some reason I get the feeling that De Chat is just pursuing easy cases and casting suspicion on others.

Indeed.

Again, De Chat appears to be casting too much suspicion, too easily, similarly to Tornadoli. Though it seems in synch with Tornadoli's playstyle, I haven't seen enough of Chat's to know his.

Then again, I'm a bit suspicious of Jerman as well.

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Could you two just stop it please?

So we've got Spock, De Chat, Cliges, and Lemeard as probable wolves. Since the others have been run up, I will

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You kidding right? That wasn't even close to a case, how can I be a "probable wolf" with such a weak argument? I'm not throwing suspicions against Ironhide, I'm trying to see how he responds to the acusations. And if he doesn't answer anything, then yes, I will throw suspicions against him.

Also, acusing someone for casting suspicions to anothers and after talking about four players as "probable wolves" with such an arguments is absolutely hilarious.
 
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You kidding right? That wasn't even close to a case, how can I be a "probable wolf" with such a weak argument? I'm not throwing suspicions against Ironhide, I'm trying to see how he responds to the acusations. And if he doesn't answer anything, then yes, I will throw suspicions against him.
Maybe "probable" is too strong of a word. Greater likelihood of being a wolf than any random given player.

It's not just Ironhide. It's also that you seem to have been skating along without much explanation, and by following really spurious cases.

On D1, let's look back to see what you did:
Cody seems the easy lynch and people voting against him could be wolves trying to find an easy target.

Vote Marshall.
I agree with Tornadoli and with the point that Marshall made before. It's true that Cody is an easy lynch but when I think about this I see a wolf Cody shooting first night only because he can and getting away with it only because he's Cody and he shooted Caesar. Also I want to see Cody's defense.

Unvote Marshall
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An odd turnaround.
True, but maybe this time his packmates thought that it was a good idea when he suggested. You know, that time Caesar wasn't playing.
You begin to pursue the case, making excuses for any caveats found.
I have to say last time Tamius found a post of mine suspicious I was a wolf and he was the only one that had suspicions against me. For that I give some credit to Tamius' wolfdar. And I find sleepyhead suspicious as well so I'm going with him.

Vote Sleepy.
You vote Sleepy, but attempt to defer any fallout to tamius.

Here we have Swolfkyt again. The thing is that when Swolfkyt appears, usually Spockyt is a villager...
A quick deflection of suspicion from Spock.
The hunt of nptrs and MC could come from a new player and I don't hace a better case so..

Vote Togee
Following a case without much explanation.
Then you begin advocating for voting Ironhide:
I think we should vote him and see what's his answer. Problem is that probably is too late now. But tomorrow we should do it.
Well, let's see how he defends himself.

Unvote Togee
Vote Ironhide.
The problem with this is that it was close enough to deadline that he might have died, and he had stated he would ignore such inquiries, and the question and the case itself were both extremely lackluster.
@Ironhide G1 what's your defense? Are you a baddie?
Again, you appear overeager to prosecute.
Tornadoli accused him for being a baddie and we want to see how he answers that.
I think the same. But the fact the he doesn't answer is not a good sign either. Maybe he's just offline, but he didn't answer tornadoli before either.
Pursuing this weak case, you repeatedly try to prosecute until....
Ufffff I don't know why but all these posts smell a lot like a wolf to me.

Unvote Ironhide IG, vote Jerman TK.
you abruptly change pace at the last minute.

And anyway, with his important vote on Jackson, Ironhide isn't actually a very likely wolf. Around half of the possibilities are eliminated completely for him, meaning some silence and a TIE made aren't a good reason to place him in danger. Your abrupt and unexplained switch, however, suggests you wanted to avoid responsibility despite trumping up the "case", and that you wanted to cast suspicion on someone else to bring into the TIE.
 

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I doubt that running up Iron is actually going to bring us anything besides a wasted day. So from the night we can probably guess that either a cursed was caught, a blessed was hit or we have a GA. I'm still not that convinced by any of the cases, but for the Yak/Aud arguementathon is not amazing. For the moment and until something swims up, I'll vote for this quote.

I have to say, as cases go, the Yakman one is tremendously bad. I think it's extremely likely that both he and Audren are both villagers.

Although the Togee case isn't perfect, it's miles better than the one on Yakman and I called him out on a wolfish post yesterday, so it'd be disingenuous for me not to

Vote Togee

VOTE TAM

Could you explain the wolfish actions by Togee once more?
 

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Maybe "probable" is too strong of a word. Greater likelihood of being a wolf than any random given player.

It's not just Ironhide. It's also that you seem to have been skating along without much explanation, and by following really spurious cases.

On D1, let's look back to see what you did:


An odd turnaround.

You begin to pursue the case, making excuses for any caveats found.

You vote Sleepy, but attempt to defer any fallout to tamius.


A quick deflection of suspicion from Spock.

Following a case without much explanation.
Then you begin advocating for voting Ironhide:


The problem with this is that it was close enough to deadline that he might have died, and he had stated he would ignore such inquiries, and the question and the case itself were both extremely lackluster.

Again, you appear overeager to prosecute.


Pursuing this weak case, you repeatedly try to prosecute until....

you abruptly change pace at the last minute.

And anyway, with his important vote on Jackson, Ironhide isn't actually a very likely wolf. Around half of the possibilities are eliminated completely for him, meaning some silence and a TIE made aren't a good reason to place him in danger. Your abrupt and unexplained switch, however, suggests you wanted to avoid responsibility despite trumping up the "case", and that you wanted to cast suspicion on someone else to bring into the TIE.

Awesome how everything you said in this post has no sense at all. It's strange how you "forget" to quote this message:

I think we should vote him and see what's his answer. Problem is that probably is too late now. But tomorrow we should do it.

When you can see that I was thinking the same you're saying, that it was late and that's why I changed my vote. But you quoted a lot of messages but not that one. Really suspicious...

And yes, I want to see Ironhide's answer. You're acusing me for something that I wrote a hundred times in this post. If you don't want to see what he says it's your thing. If his answer is good, I will change my vote.
 
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there is little question in my mind that lynching @Audren will yield us a second lynching of @Lemeard .

woe betide the village if this is not pursued.
 

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I remain convinced that we already found a baddie, in Yakman, for all the reasons I've laid out.

Do you actually think he is a baddie? Just contacting you might make sense for an unattached baddie, but contacting 3 other players to "out" you? What would an unattached baddie gain from this?
 

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Do you actually think he is a baddie? Just contacting you might make sense for an unattached baddie, but contacting 3 other players to "out" you? What would an unattached baddie gain from this?

Besides chaos?
 

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How long are you people going to keep focusing on the Audren-Yakman mess, despite repeated explanations as to why it isn't helpful?

Health is sticking out to me. His vote on Tamius makes little sense, why single out Tamius to focus on amidst all the Togee voters? And not just single out for examination, but to vote as well. Seems rather quick for how little he's going on. He's been tie happy also, which is particularly bad regarding his calls for an Audren-Yakman tie, something likely to lynch two villagers. And he gave a minor defense to Spockyt without actually addressing the case against Spockyt.

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How long are you people going to keep focusing on the Audren-Yakman mess, despite repeated explanations as to why it isn't helpful?

Health is sticking out to me. His vote on Tamius makes little sense, why single out Tamius to focus on amidst all the Togee voters? And not just single out for examination, but to vote as well. Seems rather quick for how little he's going on. He's been tie happy also, which is particularly bad regarding his calls for an Audren-Yakman tie, something likely to lynch two villagers. And he gave a minor defense to Spockyt without actually addressing the case against Spockyt.

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I chose Tamius because he stuck out the most to me and I've almost forgotten to vote twice now due to falling into the pit of despair that is MMO's with friends, more exactly LOTRO with friends.

I've called to solve the Aud/Yak argument in the best way that I can see and that is shutting both of them down. We still have no knowledge of whether or not they are villagersand as such I treat them like I treat any other player until proven innocent, that is a possible wolf. I do agree that both of them are unlikely to be wolves but that is not impossible. However if we let this stupid argument go on that will take more time from the village that should be spent on better things like finding more wolves.

I've lost the case on Spocky, is it that Spocky is acting suspicious and as such should be lynched? I'll go over the thread to find it once more, but until then could somebody willing to push said case make a statement for it.
 

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I've called to solve the Aud/Yak argument in the best way that I can see and that is shutting both of them down. We still have no knowledge of whether or not they are villagersand as such I treat them like I treat any other player until proven innocent, that is a possible wolf. I do agree that both of them are unlikely to be wolves but that is not impossible. However if we let this stupid argument go on that will take more time from the village that should be spent on better things like finding more wolves.

Emphasis mine.

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I do agree that both of them are unlikely to be wolves, however I do treat them as possible wolves. It would take a lot of stupid plays from both of them to get to this situation, if they were both baddies, but I cannot count that out.
 

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I do agree that both of them are unlikely to be wolves, however I do treat them as possible wolves. It would take a lot of stupid plays from both of them to get to this situation, if they were both baddies, but I cannot count that out.

My point remains; why on Earth would you want to TIE two people you consider unlikely wolves? Of course they could be wolves, but so could a JL spokesman who outed 2 wolves; should we start lynching JL spokesmen as well, then?
 

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Yakman is a baddie, mark my words. But, despite his affinity for LOTRO (is that game still good? haven't played for ages), I like this case on Health.

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My point remains; why on Earth would you want to TIE two people you consider unlikely wolves? Of course they could be wolves, but so could a JL spokesman who outed 2 wolves; should we start lynching JL spokesmen as well, then?

If I remember correctly this has already happened, but that is besides the point. I do see that TIEing both of them is a terrible idea, considering that this chance was not used yesterday. As you can read from the post that you quoted I felt that both of them were acting suspicious and thus I felt that more info could be gained from a possible TIE. However I am not advocating for a TIE anymore, at least of not those two.

Yakman is a baddie, mark my words. But, despite his affinity for LOTRO (is that game still good? haven't played for ages), I like this case on Health.

It is pretty fun, a bit grindy if you want to go fully F2P, but still rather fun. As I said earlier, I spent most of my weekend playing it until late at night. The only problem that I currently have with it is that the game isn't willing to take my money. Oh, a fair bit of warning if you are considering rejoining most of the EU servers are crowded with the French who refuse to speak English and then mock you for not understanding them. The US servers are pretty cozy though.
 

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I've lost the case on Spocky, is it that Spocky is acting suspicious and as such should be lynched? I'll go over the thread to find it once more, but until then could somebody willing to push said case make a statement for it.

Basically, yes. I've had a hard time defending myself, because I haven't done anything "unsuspicious". Aside from voting Jackson, but I haven't done anything making me unsuspicious to e a red wolf.