Weird situation when I went to war with Scotland

[jsnouffer]

I'm really new to CKII, but I encountered a really strange situation, which seems like a bug to me.

My character was a Scottish Duke of Galloway (2 of its counties were part of my realm, 1 other was part of the king's demesne) and Duke of Moray (1 county was part of my realm, the other 3 were part of the king's demesne).

The King of England pressed a claim for the Duchy of Galloway, and his armies greatly outnumbered Scotland's. So, before Scotland was going to lose the war, I pressed my ducal claim on the county of Moray from and declared war on the king of Scotland. I figured, it would be easy pickings, since his forces were tied up. Immediately, the war between Scotland and England disappeared, and all of the Scottish forces were sent to Moray. I ended up having to surrender, my prestige and gold took a big hit, and the king's opinion of me dropped to -100, but I didn't lose Galloway to the English.

Has anyone else encountered a similar situation? I thought it was weird that the King of England would simply end the war for Galloway, since I declared war on Scotland.

 

[Battle bunny]

I'm really new to CKII, but I encountered a really strange situation, which seems like a bug to me.

My character was a Scottish Duke of Galloway (2 of its counties were part of my realm, 1 other was part of the king's demesne) and Duke of Moray (1 county was part of my realm, the other 3 were part of the king's demesne).

The King of England pressed a claim for the Duchy of Galloway, and his armies greatly outnumbered Scotland's. So, before Scotland was going to lose the war, I pressed my ducal claim on the county of Moray from and declared war on the king of Scotland. I figured, it would be easy pickings, since his forces were tied up. Immediately, the war between Scotland and England disappeared, and all of the Scottish forces were sent to Moray. I ended up having to surrender, my prestige and gold took a big hit, and the king's opinion of me dropped to -100, but I didn't lose Galloway to the English.

Has anyone else encountered a similar situation? I thought it was weird that the King of England would simply end the war for Galloway, since I declared war on Scotland.

Wait, so you weren't independent, were you? That means you attacked the King, and generally if you attack your liege you (at least temporarily) declare independence. This means that since the target of England's claim was part of your territory, the war ended with an "Inconclusive - liege changes for Duchy of Galloway" message. At least that's how I think it works, I don't actually remember any instance of a vassal attacking his/her king with a claim before.

 

[jsnouffer]

Wait, so you weren't independent, were you? That means you attacked the King, and generally if you attack your liege you (at least temporarily) declare independence. This means that since the target of England's claim was part of your territory, the war ended with an "Inconclusive - liege changes for Duchy of Galloway" message. At least that's how I think it works, I don't actually remember any instance of a vassal attacking his/her king with a claim before.

Thanks for your response Battle bunny. You are correct, I was not independent when I declared war.

 

[_krampe_]

Yap, war is between persons and you declared temporarly independence so the war between the Scotish and the English King ended since the your ex Liege wasn't owning the county anymore.

 

[sorrowofwind]

You could try transfer a baron vassal who is under Galloway to the Scotland king then claim on the count of Moray to see if England & Scotland would still keep fighting?