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No, it is not a cheat at all since all the allies have experienced a big overpower due to the AI being incapable of finishing the revolt in Chad and having their ICs and mobilizations overpowered. I have calculaed the differences, and theyve had more benefit with that than me dowing Japan not to mention that the 45!!! updated Czech divisions should not even exist.

And according to the mod creator, it cannot be eliminated.

It is cheating. Fair cheating but cheating. :D

And yes, the AI cheats all the time. :(

What mod? I have used lots of mods without that. :huh:
 

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Was there any moment where USA was at war with Japan but not in Allies? Because you are at war with Japan too it might have made it likely that they would join the Axis. Also since it's not the Axis of Evil but rather Democracy and they will get nothing by defeating you (they also can seize very strategic land from UK) it would make sense that they would join you.
Also why didn't you wait until 1942? (I know i ask too many questions, sorry :eek:o)
 

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Was there any moment where USA was at war with Japan but not in Allies? Because you are at war with Japan too it might have made it likely that they would join the Axis. Also since it's not the Axis of Evil but rather Democracy and they will get nothing by defeating you (they also can seize very strategic land from UK) it would make sense that they would join you.
Also why didn't you wait until 1942? (I know i ask too many questions, sorry :eek:o)

I am not 100% sure, but I would say that they joined immediatly after the Japanese attack. If you are really interested in knowing it, PM me and I will try to find an earlier savegame to see if such thing is possible, although from the words of the mod creator it seemed to me that he could not prevent the US joining the Allies. I agree it would make some kind of sense as you say, but that would really have been gamey! Just imagine the Wehrmacht and the American Navy joining efforts in Sealion operation...piece of cake!;)

As for the date, I knew from the mod creator that the "Danzig or war" event would trigger in 1942 and I could just have waited, but in early 1941 my MP was Zero. I had 245 divisions, which is a good number, but about 40 of them were with just 5% Strength, since they came from the Reichwehr event and I had no MP to reinforce them. Also, the French got about 110 (and more or less 90 of them were in my Western border), the Czechs 45 and the Poles about 60 if my memory does not fail. So, without taking into account the low-strength divisions, I would have been fighting supperior forces in 3 different fronts, and that without counting the British divisions!

All in all, I am sure there are players who would know how to came victorious from that situation, but I´m not one of them. I am a veteran HOI player, but not a game-genius, and I prefer to have some confort zone when it comes to numbers :)

And you don´t ask too many questions, it is really nice to know that the AAR creates questions that need to be solved!

Gamey or not frankly I don't mind, that's a very good story and AAR you're making here, nachopontmercy!

Thanks! Next one, Fall Weiss! I want to make an update covering the invasion of Poland and some other events, so perhaps this one will be a little later than usual, since it requires a more calm and slow paced playing time. But it won´t be delayed much more!
 

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As for the U.S./German war that might occur, I'd guess America would be much more receptive towards notions like "France's down, England's down, let's make peace since the Reds are about to go down messily, too."

I just can't see the United States fighting on to a ridiculous degree if it's not actually a Fascist Jackboot crushing the entirety of Eurasia.
 

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As for the U.S./German war that might occur, I'd guess America would be much more receptive towards notions like "France's down, England's down, let's make peace since the Reds are about to go down messily, too."

I just can't see the United States fighting on to a ridiculous degree if it's not actually a Fascist Jackboot crushing the entirety of Eurasia.

Yes, I agree with you, the problem is that I don´t know if the mod has something planned about it as, for instance, the chance of a general peace treaty once France is defeated. We will see!
 

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Chapter XVI: Fall Weiss/Fall Grün


With the recent incursion carried out by Czechoslovak commands in Germany, it was clear that the Allies sought to force Germany into a new European war, and apparently they considered the Reich unprepared to cope with a conflict on three different fronts at once. However, this impression was due to the effective work of the Abwehr counterintelligence services, who managed to conceal the true potential of the Wehrmacht. In fact, OKH had actually been planning such conflict for months, and all was ready for a victorious campaign in the East.





The Wehrmacht was ready to invade Poland


The war would begin with operation Fall Weiss, the invasion of Polish territory which aimed to break any allied resistance in the East and to regain the Polish territories claimed by Germany. According to High Command, German troops would be able to enter Warsaw in just two weeks, a prevision that some Old Guard Generals regarded as fanciful and impossible. Once assured the control of all Polish territory, the Army would launch Fall Grün, a massive attack against Prague with full air support by the Luftwaffe. Meanwhile, the Western Front should contain any attacks coming from the French frontlines, but OKH even considered that there was the possibility that the French succeed in capturing some German province due to their numerical superiority; however, such situation would be addressed once the Eastern troops could be replaced in the bordering provinces.






Eastern and Western fronts prior to the start of war


Once the war was officially declared, advance orders arrived to the different Army Corps, and without delay the invasion of Poland started on schedule. Guderian's tactics proved to be completely effective, and while the infantry eliminated any focus of resistance all around the Polish border, the fast motorized divisions and the invincible Panzers advanced behind their lines, cutting the enemy from supplies and capturing city after city . In just four days, German troops were at the gates of Warsaw, while the Polish generals watched in despair as his retreating troops were bombed by the Luftwaffe or captured upon reaching his destination, already occupied by the Wehrmacht.





In just four days, Warsaw was surrounded


For its part, the French were behaving as expected, and General von Rundstedt was called urgently to direct all defensive operations in Saarbrucken, where the Abwehr anticipated that the Allies would focus their war effort. German Intelligence was right once more, as the French carried out a massive assault against German territory that was answered with a strong defense and a series of diversionary attacks against Strasbourg. The fight lasted almost a week in which von Rundstedt's troops demonstrate their value and would not give up a single inch of terrain to the enemy. The French folly would cost the lives of more than 110,000 soldiers, although 60,000 German heroes would not return to their homes.





The French were defated after severe losses from both contendants

In Poland, the bewildered Polish troops were unable to stop the German advance, and the Wehrmacht captured Krakow on September 10th as the final assault on Warsaw started. With the invaluable support of the Luftwaffe, the German infantry began the decisive attack on Warsaw, where the weak enemy resistance was broken after four days of intense combat. Once the Polish capital was captured, Marshall Józef Piłsudski unconditionally surrendered to Marshal von Blomberg, who watched with joy how a big part of the Czechoslovak Army was taken prisoner while being transported by train to defend their Polish ally.





In just 14 days, the Wehrmacht destroyed the Polish Army


Wasting no time, the victorious troops were transported to the Sudetenland, and while the undefended Bratislava was easily captured by Student´s paratroopers and the Romanians seized several towns in the east of Czechoslovakia, the Wehrmacht started to plan the capture of the Czech capital. The Czechs had displaced more than 200,000 men for the defense of their capital, but days of heavy bombardment weakened them and allowed the capture of Plzen and other nearby towns. This fight would be a lot harder than the one carried out in Poland, but eventually the German tanks entered Prague and forced the Czech government to capitulate and order all troops to surrender.





The Czech treason would not remain unpunished


In less than a month, the German war machine had eliminated all resistance in the east, and the western world's newspapers questioned whether Germany could be defeated. For his part, Stalin sent a telegram congratulating President Crispien, and after some brief negotiations Germany and the Soviet Union put an end to the Versailles Poland and regained the territories seized by the Allies after the Great War. For their part, members of the National Slovak Assembly and some Czech representatives contacted the chancellor, and while he promised that "Germany would carefully consider the need for a Slovak state to protect the Slovak nationals in the zone", at the same time he stated that "the Reich would not forget betrayals and would never allow the existence of another false and misleading Czech state."





German troops parading in Prague


Under pressure from politicians and the press, the French generals launched an assault against Freiburg, the weakest spot in the German frontline. After several days of intense fighting, High Command ordered the troops to retreat to the nearby cities, allowing the French to occupy Freiburg. Part of High Command disagreed with this decision, but both Guderian and von Bock were convinced that the French, who still operated with the tactics and concepts of the previous war, would end up overextending their lines and walking towards their own destruction. Worse news came from the air, where U.S. planes knocked down several German aircraft and forced the Luftwaffe to abandon their positions and seek shelter in nearby bases.





Members of the Légion étrangère after the capture of Freiburg

[h=3][/h]Using the new logistics system, the Wehrmacht had now the complex task of repositioning the troops that had participated in the eastern campaign, but contrary to what the British intelligence thought, these troops and aircraft would not be redeployed to the Maginot Line. Operation Fall Gelb was being planned.





Manstein´s plan for Fall Gelb
 

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Outstanding job!
What do you think about Britain? Will you try to conquer it?

Only after I am done with France, which will be probably a lot harder than in a "normal" game due to their high number of troops and all the American Aircraft hunting my Messermichts and Junkers. It is curious how the US seems more interested in a country miles away than in an enemy who is invading his islands and has actually attacked them....sigh.

And about Britain, if there is no way to stop this futile war started because of the British greed :), I will try to suceed with Sea Lion against all odds!
 

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For its part, the French were behaving as expected, and General von Rundstedt was called urgently to direct all defensive operations in Saarbrucken, where the Abwehr anticipated that the Allies would focus their war effort. German Intelligence was right once more, as the French carried out a massive assault against German territory that was answered with a strong defense and a series of diversionary attacks against Strasbourg. The fight lasted almost a week in which von Rundstedt's troops demonstrate their value and would not give up a single inch of terrain to the enemy. The French folly would cost the lives of more than 110,000 soldiers, although 60,000 German heroes would not return to their homes.





The French were defated after severe losses from both contendants

Play this music at the funerals of the fallen:

[video=youtube;oKkRS4rL6Pw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKkRS4rL6Pw[/video]
 

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Great job so far.


Are there events which give you cores on Bohemia-Moravia after a period of time or will they forever require garrisons ?
 

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Great job so far.


Are there events which give you cores on Bohemia-Moravia after a period of time or will they forever require garrisons ?

I don´t know, but I would not bet on that since the Munich Treaty has never happened. So yes, I Imagine that Prague will need a garrison eternally.


Apart from that, I´m a little busy this weekend, so I guess I´ll make you all wait for a new update until monday/tuesday. Sorry!
 

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Hm, as for ingame terms, the USSR gets cores on eastern Poland only after quite some time after WW2, so it stands to reason that it's quite reasonable for a militarily conquered Bohemia-Moravia to require some form of garrison until after the conclusion of the second war to end all wars.
 

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Well, it makes sense if you want to placate the nationalist right (and not the National Socialists who are just over-the-top). After all, Bohemia-Moravia was historically part of the HRE, it would make sense to add it to a greater German Republic.
 

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[...] After all, Bohemia-Moravia was historically part of the HRE, it would make sense to add it to a greater German Republic.
The Germans in Bohemia have been saying that since 1848. :) But the Czech majority in Bohemia and Moravia have been disagreeing with that statement for just as long.
 

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Hm, as for ingame terms, the USSR gets cores on eastern Poland only after quite some time after WW2, so it stands to reason that it's quite reasonable for a militarily conquered Bohemia-Moravia to require some form of garrison until after the conclusion of the second war to end all wars.

Well, it makes sense if you want to placate the nationalist right (and not the National Socialists who are just over-the-top). After all, Bohemia-Moravia was historically part of the HRE, it would make sense to add it to a greater German Republic.

The Germans in Bohemia have been saying that since 1848. :) But the Czech majority in Bohemia and Moravia have been disagreeing with that statement for just as long.

Hey, I understand it is a very interesting debate, but let´s try not to lose focus or we might end in an endless discussion! All in all, and in game terms, the Czech Republic won´t be liberated (and also cannot be, since I have claims in their former provinces) but I have no problem in the necesity of having to deploy some garrison or some Slovak troops to avoid partisan revolts.
 

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Hey, I understand it is a very interesting debate, but let´s try not to lose focus or we might end in an endless discussion! All in all, and in game terms, the Czech Republic won´t be liberated (and also cannot be, since I have claims in their former provinces) but I have no problem in the necesity of having to deploy some garrison or some Slovak troops to avoid partisan revolts.
No problem ;) Even if you wanted to liberate them it would have to wait until after the war, wouldn't it...