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it's really no big deal installing it - we're testing it out right now - hopefully we'll have instructions up soon 
and let's hopw one of our connections/systems can handle a 9 player hosting job
and let's hopw one of our connections/systems can handle a 9 player hosting job
ok - we installed it and it works fine (did have a CTD during play but that could have been my connection - not a good omen for tonite )
unzip the file into your /scenerios/saves folder in eu2 - the 2 files are simply save games w/some data adjusted... unzipping them will save us time tonite starting the game since we wont' have to wait for everyone to upload the save game from my system.
if it doesn't work we can easily go w/the old system since it's really nothing more than not selecting a save game
)unzip the file into your /scenerios/saves folder in eu2 - the 2 files are simply save games w/some data adjusted... unzipping them will save us time tonite starting the game since we wont' have to wait for everyone to upload the save game from my system.
if it doesn't work we can easily go w/the old system since it's really nothing more than not selecting a save game
update...
lethke and i tried a mod game
played 2 1/2 years as spain & england, fought 1 war vs. Eire, fought another war vs. france (won the 2nd and got 1 provcine each) & spain had massive rebellions goin on the whole time (-3 stab) and the game ran smooth as silk.
granted it was only 2 players but it did put to ease my previously stated concern
lethke and i tried a mod game
played 2 1/2 years as spain & england, fought 1 war vs. Eire, fought another war vs. france (won the 2nd and got 1 provcine each) & spain had massive rebellions goin on the whole time (-3 stab) and the game ran smooth as silk.
granted it was only 2 players but it did put to ease my previously stated concern
Good luck, guys!
By the way: are some of you able to play for a couple of our players on Sunday (13.00-16.00 and 17.00-20.00 GMT = 8-11 and 12-15 ET). If you are - please pm me...
Thanks!
By the way: are some of you able to play for a couple of our players on Sunday (13.00-16.00 and 17.00-20.00 GMT = 8-11 and 12-15 ET). If you are - please pm me...
Thanks!
I could get in on the 12:00-15:00EST, and maybe the 8:00-11:00 if i wake up in time.
Yep P/E mod very stable, Sunday nights - A World in Flames (see AARS ) we will run 3 hours very smoothly.
) we will run 3 hours very smoothly.
Well, since I am playing england, I have two concerns with this mod:
1. Since the irish provinces have been upgrades to cities, it is no possible anymore for me to change their culture to anglosaxon by colonizing them.
2. After I defeat newly independent ireland, I can't annex them in on swoop, since they now have to provinces (instead of a colony)
I know that from a point of view, the changes are logical, but in another way the affect negativelly my starting position, since now I need two wars to recover those provinces, and my stab cost are higher because of cultural differences ...
1. Since the irish provinces have been upgrades to cities, it is no possible anymore for me to change their culture to anglosaxon by colonizing them.
2. After I defeat newly independent ireland, I can't annex them in on swoop, since they now have to provinces (instead of a colony)
I know that from a point of view, the changes are logical, but in another way the affect negativelly my starting position, since now I need two wars to recover those provinces, and my stab cost are higher because of cultural differences ...
haha! i can finally post. stupid me... anyway, i wanna play too! I will show up at seven forty five and i really don't care what nation I play. I have been playing SP for 1-2 yrs, but never MP. So hopefully this will work out.
I will show up at seven forty five and i really don't care what nation I play. I have been playing SP for 1-2 yrs, but never MP. So hopefully this will work out.
Ok - fine! May you play Castille? Please visit our discussion thread ("GRAND EUROPE - smalltalk and others") for further instructions.
Fine! I think we need a sub for Austria as well - may that be of interest? Please visit our discussin thread for more information.
Well the 1st session is in the books and I will say I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Even though I am well on my way to leading the easiest nation in MP straight into the toilet, I had a good time overall.
A few quick observations.... 1st thanks to Prince E for hosting the game. we had one CTD after 30 minutes (but that wa pro'bly due to his XP popping in w/a message) and after that, 2.5 hours of smooth uninterupted play w/9 players... very smooth.
The 1st thing I will say is KEEP THE SPEED TO BELOW NORMAL PLEASE!!! I almost stroked out having to deal w/4 explorers, sending out colonists in 2 Hemispheres, readying a invasion fleet and invasion army, and putting down revolts in my european holdings... that part was definately not fun.
2ndly, can ANYONE give me some MP war advice when fighting another player... I naively went forward thinking "well, let's keep the forces balanced infantry & cavalry" - seemed to be a combo of my ignorance of the combat system (and I was a beta) and a idiotic feeling (in hindsight anyway) that those all Cav armies were one of the gamey tactics we were avoiding... my bad which I quickly corrected after France thrashed my 2 little armies (costing me 2 leaders in the process).. .it's a good thing Kings can't be impeached or the Good King of Spain would have been out of office rather rapidly.
There was one major war in the game - France and friends (all AI nations, Papal, Savoy, Bourbannais, Brittany) took on Spain, England & Portugal and soundly kicked our collective assess.
When I saw that 1st French army of I think around 40,000 cavalry cut thru my 2 armies (totaled around 35,000 total men I think) I KNEW I was in trouble.
So after a war that seemed to last forever france finally quit toying w/us and accepted peace for 2 provinces... Spain was quite bitter
3rd - when any war breaks out involving a human player I would suggest that the speed be dropped even further than the Below Normal level - there just doesn't seem to be enough time to do any diplomacy at the below normal speed... but that's just an opinion at this point...
I enjoyed all the guys that showed and played and to those that showed and couldn't play, check back in often, I'm sure we could use some subs
now that the observations are out of the way a quick overview of Spains accomplishments...
Found the Carribean islands, colonized & TP'd some, found the heathens, couldn't save them as planned due to the little 1st Spanish-Franco War, damn that worthless vassel Naples, Spain got her ass kicked royally, naples got annexed by Savoy & papal states, France got Rousalana (or whatever it's called) then Spain got back to what it's here for, saving the heathens of the new world... took out the Aztecs who happened to have annexed most of the other indians I think (or else it's something new in Peter's mod, I've never played the mod before) so I got everything north of Nicaragua (except the yucatan province) w/a 0 revolt risk - the only bit of good news I got all game...
of course during this time, I'm way behind in my exploration attempts - damn that Frenchy... and Sicially is revolting - literally and figuratively - so both provinces are controlled by rebels and I figure that if the buggers want freedom that badly I'll give it to em - create a vassal state for em... does that make the buggers happy?? Noooooo - they are still controlled by the damn rebels...
not sure exactly what they want now - I stronly suspect the hand of organized crime myself...
So I left Spain after 3 hours of play prob'ly in worse shape than any spain has ever been left by any player ever in any MP game...
I'm so proud
Even though I am well on my way to leading the easiest nation in MP straight into the toilet, I had a good time overall.
A few quick observations.... 1st thanks to Prince E for hosting the game. we had one CTD after 30 minutes (but that wa pro'bly due to his XP popping in w/a message) and after that, 2.5 hours of smooth uninterupted play w/9 players... very smooth.
The 1st thing I will say is KEEP THE SPEED TO BELOW NORMAL PLEASE!!! I almost stroked out having to deal w/4 explorers, sending out colonists in 2 Hemispheres, readying a invasion fleet and invasion army, and putting down revolts in my european holdings... that part was definately not fun.
2ndly, can ANYONE give me some MP war advice when fighting another player... I naively went forward thinking "well, let's keep the forces balanced infantry & cavalry" - seemed to be a combo of my ignorance of the combat system (and I was a beta
) and a idiotic feeling (in hindsight anyway) that those all Cav armies were one of the gamey tactics we were avoiding... my bad which I quickly corrected after France thrashed my 2 little armies (costing me 2 leaders in the process).. .it's a good thing Kings can't be impeached or the Good King of Spain would have been out of office rather rapidly.There was one major war in the game - France and friends (all AI nations, Papal, Savoy, Bourbannais, Brittany) took on Spain, England & Portugal and soundly kicked our collective assess.
When I saw that 1st French army of I think around 40,000 cavalry cut thru my 2 armies (totaled around 35,000 total men I think) I KNEW I was in trouble.
So after a war that seemed to last forever france finally quit toying w/us and accepted peace for 2 provinces... Spain was quite bitter
3rd - when any war breaks out involving a human player I would suggest that the speed be dropped even further than the Below Normal level - there just doesn't seem to be enough time to do any diplomacy at the below normal speed... but that's just an opinion at this point...
I enjoyed all the guys that showed and played and to those that showed and couldn't play, check back in often, I'm sure we could use some subs
now that the observations are out of the way a quick overview of Spains accomplishments...
Found the Carribean islands, colonized & TP'd some, found the heathens, couldn't save them as planned due to the little 1st Spanish-Franco War, damn that worthless vassel Naples, Spain got her ass kicked royally, naples got annexed by Savoy & papal states, France got Rousalana (or whatever it's called) then Spain got back to what it's here for, saving the heathens of the new world... took out the Aztecs who happened to have annexed most of the other indians I think (or else it's something new in Peter's mod, I've never played the mod before) so I got everything north of Nicaragua (except the yucatan province) w/a 0 revolt risk - the only bit of good news I got all game...
of course during this time, I'm way behind in my exploration attempts - damn that Frenchy... and Sicially is revolting - literally and figuratively - so both provinces are controlled by rebels and I figure that if the buggers want freedom that badly I'll give it to em - create a vassal state for em... does that make the buggers happy?? Noooooo - they are still controlled by the damn rebels...
not sure exactly what they want now - I stronly suspect the hand of organized crime myself...
So I left Spain after 3 hours of play prob'ly in worse shape than any spain has ever been left by any player ever in any MP game...
I'm so proud
I've been laying low, trying to get good relations with france and poland, because both can help me.. I'm also having a fight with my stab, it's at -1 right now, i hope to have it up to +2 or +3 for the war with denmark, i also hope for a cash account of 1k so i can go way above maintenance for a long time.
France, i need for my relays, and if he so desires, he can cleverly not forward alliance requests.
Poland can help me because they keep russia in check.
France, i need for my relays, and if he so desires, he can cleverly not forward alliance requests.
Poland can help me because they keep russia in check.
Russian infringement on the Catholic world will not be smiled upon by Austria, nor will Ottoman invasion.
Anyway, the whole time for Austria was spent economically and diplomatically, except the end, where following the League Of Cambrai, I went to war with Venice. The game ended while Veneto, Istria and Gelre (Ally of Venice) were still besieged. Note I have no interest annexing Gelre or any other country in that region.
Anyway, the whole time for Austria was spent economically and diplomatically, except the end, where following the League Of Cambrai, I went to war with Venice. The game ended while Veneto, Istria and Gelre (Ally of Venice) were still besieged. Note I have no interest annexing Gelre or any other country in that region.
Well Portugal has found a large landmass to the west. Dotted the Brazilian coastline with some TP's. Placed 3 colonies. One in Parnaiba, one in Diamantia and one in between those prov's. Not Recife though.
Then we got the Franco-Spanish war, in which Protugal contributed it's mighty fleet to destroy the fleet of Savoy. The only other feat of the Portugeuse military during that war was to get it's rear handed to it on a silver platter by rebels in Toledo who were 1/3rd the size of the main Portugeuse battleforce. And this 3 times!
Colonial expansion is seriously hampered by the lack of income. I can send out 1 colonist each year, afterwards i am out of money and need to wait untill the next year.
Then we got the Franco-Spanish war, in which Protugal contributed it's mighty fleet to destroy the fleet of Savoy. The only other feat of the Portugeuse military during that war was to get it's rear handed to it on a silver platter by rebels in Toledo who were 1/3rd the size of the main Portugeuse battleforce. And this 3 times!
Colonial expansion is seriously hampered by the lack of income. I can send out 1 colonist each year, afterwards i am out of money and need to wait untill the next year.
Hey guys, there's an AAR thead you know.
I like your way of looking at things, WhiteHojo. Our score will be settled once I conquer Texas!
I prefer playing on normal speed... It gets a bit boring otherwise. If I get bored I may be tempted to do something crazy like sack London or conquer Italy. Also, the English invasion attempts will not go unforgotten. They saved Spanish arse from full scale invasion of Iberia, only to lose their only general and entire army.
Hojo, what's your aim screen name?
I like your way of looking at things, WhiteHojo.
Our score will be settled once I conquer Texas!I prefer playing on normal speed... It gets a bit boring otherwise. If I get bored I may be tempted to do something crazy like sack London or conquer Italy. Also, the English invasion attempts will not go unforgotten. They saved Spanish arse from full scale invasion of Iberia, only to lose their only general and entire army.
Hojo, what's your aim screen name?